Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

[tim0409]

PHuzzy said:

I like how the question is regarding why you'd need the extra speed though rather than the important point of being less than 50% of the price and faster.

Maybe because I have zero interest in Android or that fact that it's cheaper; I just wanted to know what the poster did that he noticed a difference in every day usage; and he answered my question.

[Zod]

tim0409 said:

PHuzzy said:

Meh, even a brand new iPhone X is slower out of the box than a number of android phones.

Genuine question; what are you doing with a phone that you notice that an iPhone X is slower than an android phone (especially in every day use)?

It hardly matters, but it's untrue in any case. The S9 is slower than the iPhone 7.

[leglessAlex]

Zod said:

tim0409 said:

PHuzzy said:

Meh, even a brand new iPhone X is slower out of the box than a number of android phones.

Genuine question; what are you doing with a phone that you notice that an iPhone X is slower than an android phone (especially in every day use)?

It hardly matters, but it's untrue in any case. The S9 is slower than the iPhone 7.

Yeah, I was a little surprised at that. I use a Pixel 2 XL, one of the 'snappier' Android phones, but I find iPhones to be generally a fair bit faster in either day to day stuff or processor intensive stuff. The A11 Bionic is a beast of a processor, and iOS is good at making efficient use of the RAM and processing power.

[NDA]

PHuzzy said:

NDA said:

tim0409 said:

PHuzzy said:

Meh, even a brand new iPhone X is slower out of the box than a number of android phones.

Genuine question; what are you doing with a phone that you notice that an iPhone X is slower than an android phone (especially in every day use)?

I'd be interested in the answer to this too.

It's 3 posts down from the question.

I like how the question is regarding why you'd need the extra speed though rather than the important point of being less than 50% of the price and faster.

It was also interested in what 'number of android phones' were faster - I had read the X was pretty quick.

[PHuzzy]

Whilst benchmarks may not be fully conclusive of real world use, it's the best metric using the same tests on phones.

So have a look at the Antutu benchmark list, the multiple 3D mark tests and Pass Mark.
I'll grant that it does quite well in the geekbench test but the £erformance compared to other android phones is poor.

I had a quick look at the toms hardware article and notice they point out the 2 benchmarks the iPhone X does well in but ignore the 6/7 others it does terrible in.

I'm not particularly biased either way, a phone is a phone at the end of the day and yet we use them more and more for different tasks but I will not go back to an iPhone unless they can keep the performance high and reduce the cost to at least a reasonable level.

[Burwood]

No one is going to argue that Apple product, at least the halo variants represent good value.

[FourWheelDrift]

Apple and Samsung fined in Italy for slowing down their phones.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18018322/apple...

[ZesPak]

FourWheelDrift said:

Apple and Samsung fined in Italy for slowing down their phones.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18018322/apple...

As per usual, Samsung is incompetent while Apple is malicious .

[K12beano]

ZesPak said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Apple and Samsung fined in Italy for slowing down their phones.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18018322/apple...

As per usual, Samsung is incompetent while Apple is malicious .

[techguyone]

I hope this snowballs and forces both to stop, not particularly caring about the fruit as I'd never have any iAnything as overpriced.pretentious, not fit for my purpose idiot boxes for the intellectually challenged where image is all, but Samsung has long been suspected of making their phones get 'laggy' after a bit, despite being super fast initially. If this was resolved, I'd likely get one.

[egor110]

techguyone said:

I hope this snowballs and forces both to stop, not particularly caring about the fruit as I'd never have any iAnything as overpriced.pretentious, not fit for my purpose idiot boxes for the intellectually challenged where image is all, but Samsung has long been suspected of making their phones get 'laggy' after a bit, despite being super fast initially. If this was resolved, I'd likely get one.

Which are your ethically sound mobile manufacturers then ?

[techguyone]

Nothing to do with ethics, I just dislike overpriced locked down baubles for the clueless.

Android gives me far greater versatility/function than anything made by the fruit firm.

[egor110]

techguyone said:

Nothing to do with ethics, I just dislike overpriced locked down baubles for the clueless.

Android gives me far greater versatility/function than anything made by the fruit firm.

What can you do differently with android, pretty much every phone does the same thing .

Only plus for apple is by locking down the apps it’s a bit safer .

[ZesPak]

egor110 said:

What can you do differently with android, pretty much every phone does the same thing .

Only plus for apple is by locking down the apps it’s a bit safer .

You're both wrong and over simplifying.

Linus did an interesting take on it (despite being a massive Android fan):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pev5K7OcW-8

Some of it is stretching it, but most of it is on point.

[geeks]

techguyone said:

Nothing to do with ethics, I just dislike overpriced locked down baubles for the clueless.

Android gives me far greater versatility/function than anything made by the fruit firm.

As a guy who isn't clueless when it comes to this stuff, I would like to know exactly what you do on Android that cannot be done in iOS?

There was a time where there definitely was an argument to be made that Android offered up a more versatile OS however these days it's for the most part a complete BS line trotted out by Android users sold a line or just stuck in the past..

Before you accuse me of being a "fanboi" I have had more Android phones than iOS and still carry an S8 and an iPhone 8!

[techguyone]

To be honest the fact that I can hook up to any other computer without requiring iTunes or an Apple would be enough, the fact I can customise it endlessly with launchers, widgets screen, themes, elements and so on.

Tasker is a big one, huge actually - for further customisation.

Oh app drawer is kinda a deal breaker for me, who the fk wants 100+ apps just plastered all over the home screen(s)

Sideloading (yes you have jailbreak... kinda but not really the same thing), oh yes Apple keep cockblocking that with successive updates.

Apple maps? hah yea right...

Siri? nah, I don't really use hey google either but whatever.

Like I said *for my needs* Apple just doesn't cut it and I'm a function over form kinda guy, half the people who have an iPhone have one BECAUSE it's an iPhone and its perceived superiority over anything else - because marketing (this is really really prevalent in the states where you are seen as a poor cousin if you don't have an iPhone)

[egor110]

See I’d say what adult needs hundreds of apps , really I bet most of us would cope fine with maybe 20 .

[techguyone]

I've got 170

There's a few duplicates, but I suppose I could trim to 130 or so...

App quantity is like it these days because now phones come with lots of memory + SD Card slots (oops sorry Apple) so you're not worrying about running out of storage space now.

[BrabusMog]

130 apps you use regularly I'd suggest that you're probably not Apple's target market with that sort of phone obsession.

I recently tried to move to Android as the camera on the Huawei P20 was so good, but I lasted a week before I sold the phone. Plus not being able to send things to the Apple TV, use FaceTime, iMessage etc was annoying, guess my family is now an Apple family for life.

[techguyone]

I do use it a lot but I tend to just have one app for each thing, so like a weather app, news app, banking, trains, buses, carmode, films/tv/entertainment, then one for each social media, toss in a few games it soon adds up,and as said, with storage space no longer at a premium people tend to gather a bit more junk than in times past.

Why have a pocket computer if you don't install aps on it, if we were all like that, we could just use a dumb phone with a web browser and do it that way.