Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'
Discussion
The Spruce goose said:
The Brand affinity to Apple products is approaching cult like status. I think strong brands like Apple do make people feel like part of a society and community. You see all these other people talking on their iPhones and using their Macs, and you feel the sense that ‘they are with me, as people become disconnected from actual real interactions, and more isolated they want to feel they belong to something, and Apple fulfill this gap.
For the last 10 years I’ve only had iPhones. Most of that time was spent with 2 of different types so I could do a comparison. At no time have I buying any other apple products. Why?
iTunes.
It is Apple’s opportunity to win over a pc user and it is horrid. Literally, every time I use it I have to update it. In doing so they move everything around. How do I put music on my phone? Should be drag and drop but isn’t. It tries to convert you existing format to Apple instead of leavin* it alone even if I’m not putting it on a phone. As a result, I’ve not had music on my phones for 5+ years. Not an issue for me.
But, the biggest thing iTunes does now that pisses me off is the back up. They have hidden it on the drive iTunes is loaded on. This didn’t used to be the case but they changed it. I️ have a smaller boot ssd and a large data drive. I wondered why my ssd was full. Now I know why.
I’m told Apple software is intuitive. Not in my experience. This isn’t a case of “it was developed for Mac so what do you expect”. This is a meeting of people who decided to make my life difficult.
Still like the phones though.
jamoor said:
ambuletz said:
so to do android phones, and computers running windows.
Android phones, yes. Computers, specifically laptops running windows? Nah, I've had enough bad experiences with total rip off/low quality dell/ibm/hp (oh god not hp) machines to never touch them again with the bargiest of barge poles. How hard is it to make a decent touchpad that isn't the size of a postage stamp and has multi touch?manufacturers have cotton'd onto peoples want for pretty, nicely built laptops for a while now, there's plenty out there. even microsoft with their surface book range.
ambuletz said:
so you're comparing a low-quality laptop against an apple that's over £1000?
manufacturers have cotton'd onto peoples want for pretty, nicely built laptops for a while now, there's plenty out there. even microsoft with their surface book range.
Well if we look at the total cost of ownership of a high end macbook Vs any high end windows machine the macbook wins every time due to such high resale values. I'd never spend any sort of money on a laptop running Windows purely because windows is loaded with Microsoft spyware from installation and behaves as a torrenting machine for Windows updates. My trust for any windows laptop manufacturer went out the window years ago.manufacturers have cotton'd onto peoples want for pretty, nicely built laptops for a while now, there's plenty out there. even microsoft with their surface book range.
Yes I'm comparing two £1000 laptops one is low quality from a user experience pov and one isn't.
dmsims said:
Which "high" quality one can you buy for £1000 ?
They cost more like 2 for a pro don't they? Still cheaper once you take depreciation into account which is much higher on any windows machine because they are less desirable. Less desirable because they aren't as good.Oh and it appears ms have fragmented windows again. They did it with windows RT and now win 10 s and win 10 pro.
They don't help themselves! With a macbook all updates for the operating system is included for free until the hardware no longer supports it.
Edited by jamoor on Sunday 24th December 22:18
jamoor said:
They cost more like 2 for a pro don't they? Still cheaper once you take depreciation into account which is much higher on any windows machine because they are less desirable. Less desirable because they aren't as good.
aren't as good to the lay person who knows f
k all about computers. something that's desirable isn't necessarily better for your needs.dmsims said:
So we've gone from 1K to 2K ?
I wouldn't have a crappy Macbook at any price (and yes we have had 2)
For 2K you can buy 4 decent Windows laptops
It's a bit like saying it's better to have four ford fiestas rather than one mapped 335d.I wouldn't have a crappy Macbook at any price (and yes we have had 2)
For 2K you can buy 4 decent Windows laptops
The more important thing is the depreciation rather than the purchase cost.
jamoor said:
Well if we look at the total cost of ownership of a high end macbook Vs any high end windows machine the macbook wins every time due to such high resale values. I'd never spend any sort of money on a laptop running Windows purely because windows is loaded with Microsoft spyware from installation and behaves as a torrenting machine for Windows updates. My trust for any windows laptop manufacturer went out the window years ago.
Yes I'm comparing two £1000 laptops one is low quality from a user experience pov and one isn't.
You're deluded.Yes I'm comparing two £1000 laptops one is low quality from a user experience pov and one isn't.
otolith said:
The amusing thing here is that the people most outraged by this kind of thing are not usually Apple owners but people who seem to feel they have to justify their choice of something else by being angry at Apple.
It’s just a phone, folks. It’s not that interesting.
Where are they outraged? It’s just a phone, folks. It’s not that interesting.
I'm more worried than anything. Apple have shown a capacity for printing money and, mainly for the worse, other manufacturers have been copying their business tactics in order to get a piece of the pie.
The worst part indeed is that many people won't care and they can probably just continue as they were.
The main issue is having this as a precedent, not being punished and eventually the norm. Many people have already accepted it anyway.
The Spruce goose said:
The Brand affinity to Apple products is approaching cult like status. I think strong brands like Apple do make people feel like part of a society and community. You see all these other people talking on their iPhones and using their Macs, and you feel the sense that ‘they are with me, as people become disconnected from actual real interactions, and more isolated they want to feel they belong to something, and Apple fulfill this gap.
'Approaching' cult like status....? You're kidding. It reached that point years ago.Apple users are blind. We've got friends who bought a Macbook pro thingy last year and I had a go on it. Just how the f
k people get on with these things I'll never know, it was a nightmare to use. I know I wasn't used to it (Windows user for years) but tbh I wouldn't want to 'have' to get used to it. Much like our iPhone 6 at work, bloody awful.These threads always go the same way 
I've got an iPhone at the moment. Always had Android before, might have Android again it just depends what I feel like and what's available when I get the itch to change.
Likewise I've got a MacBook Pro at home but use a similar spec Dell Latitude for work and the two cost around the same.
I can see the benefits of both and the reasons I choose to use a MacBook may not be practical for someone else.
I don't get it, just use the one you like
I've got an iPhone at the moment. Always had Android before, might have Android again it just depends what I feel like and what's available when I get the itch to change.
Likewise I've got a MacBook Pro at home but use a similar spec Dell Latitude for work and the two cost around the same.
I can see the benefits of both and the reasons I choose to use a MacBook may not be practical for someone else.
I don't get it, just use the one you like
jamoor said:
8V085 said:
Windows trackpads suck because they have to have two buttons which makes the fine tuning a nightmare. Even MS's own Surface has a trackpad that is not as good as Apple's.
I don't have two buttons on my Mac but have all of the functionality of two.GetCarter said:
As long as the batteries last and she doesn't update the IOS, can't see a problem (until it dies!)... six years from a phone... doesn't owe us much.
If she's using it for texts and voice calls only then there's no problem. If she's also using it for data that makes it an unpatched internet connected device which is a significant problem.8V085 said:
GetCarter said:
As long as the batteries last and she doesn't update the IOS, can't see a problem (until it dies!)... six years from a phone... doesn't owe us much.
If she's using it for texts and voice calls only then there's no problem. If she's also using it for data that makes it an unpatched internet connected device which is a significant problem.Gassing Station | Computers, Gadgets & Stuff | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff