Passwords!

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boyse7en

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6,730 posts

165 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Whats the best of way of storing/remembering the hundreds of passwords I use to log in to all the various websites that now demand it? I've currently got a notebook, but it is getting overly complicated as more sites demand different "specs" of password (must be 10 letters, with one number, no double letters, two non-adjacent capitals, etc etc)

juice

8,534 posts

282 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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We use Keepass specifically as it's not cloud based.

bitchstewie

51,277 posts

210 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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KeePass
1Password
LastPass

Any of those are good choices, depends on your requirements around being able to sync between devices.

I'd go with 1Password.

Harpoon

1,867 posts

214 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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A password manager.

Can either be a hosted (cloud) service like LastPass or Dashlane or something you manage yourself like KeePass

Some of the hosted providers offer a free service. The paid services will offer additional functionality and support for things like 2FA (Two Factor Authentication).

https://helpdesk.lastpass.com/lastpass-now-free-on...

Either way, you generate a random password every website, store them in the manager and then secure overall access via a longer password (or token) and, ideally, 2FA.

https://helpdesk.lastpass.com/multifactor-authenti...

boyse7en

Original Poster:

6,730 posts

165 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Thanks for the recommendations.

If i store the passwords in the cloud/online isn't there a danger that hackers could just hack that one password and get access to all my other passwords in one go?

CzechItOut

2,154 posts

191 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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juice said:
We use Keepass specifically as it's not cloud based.
Does it work across multiple devices?

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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I use LastPass and it works well across multiple devices, but am paranoid enough about it not use it for my bank details. I'm less worried about anyone getting their hands on my PH login or getting through the2 factor authentication to pay my gas bill.

Australiam

276 posts

129 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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boyse7en said:
Thanks for the recommendations.

If i store the passwords in the cloud/online isn't there a danger that hackers could just hack that one password and get access to all my other passwords in one go?
Though I am not familiar with all solutions, for those that I am the cloud files are encrypted, so pretty safe. The de-cryption of the file takes place on your device.

Here is a great opinion piece that is worth the read: https://www.troyhunt.com/password-managers-dont-ha...

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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I think for a lot of accounts it's probably just worth having the same generic password for them all.

For example for all forums/account without any financial/personal/address information just used Password123!

Who cares if someone hacks your Pistonheads account?

But for email, banking, Amazon/eBay/etc they should all be unique!

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

145 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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I use KeePass with the Google Drive cloud backup plugin. I've now got hundreds of randomly generated passwords for various websites, just make sure you have multiple copies of the database. I also use this Android app to access it on the move: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=keep...

bitchstewie

51,277 posts

210 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Australiam said:
Though I am not familiar with all solutions, for those that I am the cloud files are encrypted, so pretty safe. The de-cryption of the file takes place on your device.

Here is a great opinion piece that is worth the read: https://www.troyhunt.com/password-managers-dont-ha...
I'd go with that and it nicely illustrates the point.

He uses 1Password.

juice

8,534 posts

282 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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CzechItOut said:
Does it work across multiple devices?
No, but then for us, it doesn't need to.

The Database is kept on a network share.

Oakey

27,585 posts

216 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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I use Keeper Security and the browser extensions, don't know how reputable they are?

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

145 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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juice said:
CzechItOut said:
Does it work across multiple devices?
No, but then for us, it doesn't need to.

The Database is kept on a network share.
Yeah but it can, see my post above about the Google Drive plugin + Android app.

bitchstewie

51,277 posts

210 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Oakey said:
I use Keeper Security and the browser extensions, don't know how reputable they are?
Keeper isn't all that widely mentioned and used in my experience.

Did you install it because it was in the Windows 10 app store by any chance?

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/201...

juice

8,534 posts

282 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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LastPass have been repeatedly hacked (in 15, 16 and 17).....or 'Patched vulnerabilities' in polite speak hehe

Mind you....Should come as no massive surprise that a cloud offering, storing the keys to peoples applications should come under repeated hacking attempts !

Mr Pointy

11,228 posts

159 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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juice said:
LastPass have been repeatedly hacked (in 15, 16 and 17).....or 'Patched vulnerabilities' in polite speak hehe

Mind you....Should come as no massive surprise that a cloud offering, storing the keys to peoples applications should come under repeated hacking attempts !
Do you mean hacked as in "attacked & user passwords stolen" or "examined, vulnerbities found & patched"? Can you point to reliable reports of users encrypted passwords being taken?

Bikerjon

2,202 posts

161 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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I like 1Password as I can choose where to store the database. I use two vaults - one for personal and the other for work on two separate locations that both have two factor authentication enabled.

I notice that most of the popular password managers are adopting a subscription model now. Not so sure about that.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Lazlock is portable and will work on a Linux or glass machine
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lazlock/

audi321

5,188 posts

213 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Can I ask how safe Google Chrome is? I mean it remembers all my passwords and I seem to be able to 'log in' to any computer in the world and retrieve saved passwords for websites?

I don't really use it for many sites, but it seems to work perfectly well for those that it does (i.e. PH's)