Apple Product Launch 12 September
Discussion
p1stonhead said:
Rawwr said:
Daverb said:
I was very surprised with this going from the 8 to the 8+.
I imagined another row of icons on the screen and being able to view much more information in emails and websites etc...
No just EXACTLY the same information as on the 8 but bigger.
Pointless.
Hah, are you saying the display is just scaled rather than giving a larger usable area?I imagined another row of icons on the screen and being able to view much more information in emails and websites etc...
No just EXACTLY the same information as on the 8 but bigger.
Pointless.
p1stonhead said:
Rawwr said:
Daverb said:
I was very surprised with this going from the 8 to the 8+.
I imagined another row of icons on the screen and being able to view much more information in emails and websites etc...
No just EXACTLY the same information as on the 8 but bigger.
Pointless.
Hah, are you saying the display is just scaled rather than giving a larger usable area?I imagined another row of icons on the screen and being able to view much more information in emails and websites etc...
No just EXACTLY the same information as on the 8 but bigger.
Pointless.
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-xs-vs-xs-max-v...
Rawwr said:
p1stonhead said:
Yes the max is exactly that. Utterly stupid decision.
So people are paying £100 for an accessibility option? That's amazing! 
If you compare the max to a normal X whilst you see no more everything is slightly bigger and for me it’s worth the money
ecsrobin said:
oobster said:
Baron von Teuchter said:
XS max is gorgeous, the screen is a huge improvement on the 6+.
Love it
Good to hear, I'm going from a 6+ to an XS Max. Just waiting on the new phone being sent out.Love it
It’s loud!! I’m hugely impressed though, in fairness, I haven’t had a new phone in 4 years.
Face ID is brilliant. It just works.
The camera is amazing.
It’s fast too. I use a global flight sim called infinite flight and had to turn down frame rate and satellite imagery resolution on the 6+. It’s fast and smooth now with everything on full and the resolution and colour is amazing.
Sounds expensive at £1249 but if it lasts 4 years like the last one it’s a bargain. No regrets.
p1stonhead said:
After a single day, I’m totally sold on Face ID. It’s amazing.
Snap! My favourite bit is how notifications display but without the content until faceID sees the person who can unlock it and shows the detail.I’ve had a 6+ since launch and it was pretty tired (poor battery, lack of storage, broken headphone jack and a slight crack in the screen) so decided the XS Max was the phone for me. I had considered previous versions 7,8 etc but couldn’t see why I needed to upgrade but the XS Max is such is jump on the 6+ I’m very happy. The battery on the XS seems to last an amazingly long time!
My only minor grip is the charger and headphones use the same connection so out of the box you can’t charge and listen to music using the headphones. I appreciate the standard is largely Bluetooth today but I always liked the combo of charging whilst listening to music using the standard iPhone headphones. I looked at the EarPods and quite honestly do not like them so I’m searching for a decent set of Bluetooth headphones.
Rawwr said:
jamoor said:
If you actually look at how many things a phone does/can do I still think it's a pretty good deal.
It replaces
Satnavs
Trips to the bank
Compact camera
Letters
MP3 Player
Television
This comes up a lot but there are a lot of phones which do this and the significant majority of them do it for significantly less.It replaces
Satnavs
Trips to the bank
Compact camera
Letters
MP3 Player
Television
Naturally, people are entitled to spend their money on whatever they choose but the use case isn't unique.
Scobblelotcher said:
Snap! My favourite bit is how notifications display but without the content until faceID sees the person who can unlock it and shows the detail.
I’ve had a 6+ since launch and it was pretty tired (poor battery, lack of storage, broken headphone jack and a slight crack in the screen) so decided the XS Max was the phone for me. I had considered previous versions 7,8 etc but couldn’t see why I needed to upgrade but the XS Max is such is jump on the 6+ I’m very happy. The battery on the XS seems to last an amazingly long time!
My only minor grip is the charger and headphones use the same connection so out of the box you can’t charge and listen to music using the headphones. I appreciate the standard is largely Bluetooth today but I always liked the combo of charging whilst listening to music using the standard iPhone headphones. I looked at the EarPods and quite honestly do not like them so I’m searching for a decent set of Bluetooth headphones.
Or buy a wireless charger for less than a tenner on Amazon. I’ve had a 6+ since launch and it was pretty tired (poor battery, lack of storage, broken headphone jack and a slight crack in the screen) so decided the XS Max was the phone for me. I had considered previous versions 7,8 etc but couldn’t see why I needed to upgrade but the XS Max is such is jump on the 6+ I’m very happy. The battery on the XS seems to last an amazingly long time!
My only minor grip is the charger and headphones use the same connection so out of the box you can’t charge and listen to music using the headphones. I appreciate the standard is largely Bluetooth today but I always liked the combo of charging whilst listening to music using the standard iPhone headphones. I looked at the EarPods and quite honestly do not like them so I’m searching for a decent set of Bluetooth headphones.
I'll never know if it was causal but my X had 92% battery capacity after 11 months and all I ever did was wirelessly charge it (at night and at work).
In my naive mind I'm wondering if that was because I was using generic wireless chargers that just kept trying to charge constantly even though the battery was charged, because there is no direct signal? I don't really know the tech that well if I'm honest though.
In my naive mind I'm wondering if that was because I was using generic wireless chargers that just kept trying to charge constantly even though the battery was charged, because there is no direct signal? I don't really know the tech that well if I'm honest though.
Walked into my local Apple store today and spent some time handling an XS and an 8 having already compared the specs side-by-side on the Apple website. The theory was that I'd then do the rest of my shopping and head back to the Apple store to buy whichever phone had lodged itself in my head as the one I wanted. I ended up going home without either. I want the XS for its spec but the 8 is as large as I feel I can comfortably go. Shame there's no SE sized phone with an edge-to-edge screen for those of us prefer a smaller device. I need to replace my ageing 4S but I'm struggling to decide.
MitchT said:
Walked into my local Apple store today and spent some time handling an XS and an 8 having already compared the specs side-by-side on the Apple website. The theory was that I'd then do the rest of my shopping and head back to the Apple store to buy whichever phone had lodged itself in my head as the one I wanted. I ended up going home without either. I want the XS for its spec but the 8 is as large as I feel I can comfortably go. Shame there's no SE sized phone with an edge-to-edge screen for those of us prefer a smaller device. I need to replace my ageing 4S but I'm struggling to decide.
Yes, the 4 was the optimal size imo.MitchT said:
Walked into my local Apple store today and spent some time handling an XS and an 8 having already compared the specs side-by-side on the Apple website. The theory was that I'd then do the rest of my shopping and head back to the Apple store to buy whichever phone had lodged itself in my head as the one I wanted. I ended up going home without either. I want the XS for its spec but the 8 is as large as I feel I can comfortably go. Shame there's no SE sized phone with an edge-to-edge screen for those of us prefer a smaller device. I need to replace my ageing 4S but I'm struggling to decide.
You really do get used to the larger size rather quickly. I went from a 5S to a 6S Plus and it seemed enormous at first but they shrink around your hands. I would buy an iPhone XS from Apple and try it for ten days. If you really aren’t getting on with it, then send it back as they’re very good with refunds.
I'd like to return to an iPhone after using them right up to 7 but struggling to find it will be 'better' for me.
The XS Max will outperform my Samsung S9+ in terms of processing speed but I cannot say I find the S9+ slow in any way at all; it does everything I want it to very quickly. Not that I wouldn't find something to use the extra power on though, I guess.
So it is down to Screen, Camera, Dual Sim and Quality for me between them.
The S9+ AMOLED screen still beats the iPhone OLED one - I appreciate what Apple have done to tweak the Samsung 2nd tier screen they use but it still doesn't quite match the flagship screen and in a few months, Samsung will be launching their '10 year' phone with an even better screen still.
Cameras are roughly the same; I always use post-processing anyway so for me I can make both cameras look equal. Again, in a few months I'd get next-gen tech too.
Dual Sim; a bit disappointing the 2nd Sim is an e-Sim that can't be used yet. I prefer the idea of e-Sim for all phones eventually though; no need for any open ports then and we can have a 'sealed' phone with even greater water and dust proofing. For now though, 2 hard SIM's (business and personal) are working for me.
Quality, I'll give this to Apple. The Samsung is very well made and feels premium, looks great etc but the XS Max does have a better look and feel overall - subjective, so that's just my opinion.
I used to prefer iOS to Android hands down but the last couple of Android Editions have changed that; they are equal now to me. So I have given it some thought and very nearly bought an XS Max but...decided to wait for the Samsung Galaxy '10' instead before making the decision. If I return to Apple, I think it's going to depend upon next year's model and whether it can persuade me to ditch the S'10'+ I'll most likely have by then.
The XS Max will outperform my Samsung S9+ in terms of processing speed but I cannot say I find the S9+ slow in any way at all; it does everything I want it to very quickly. Not that I wouldn't find something to use the extra power on though, I guess.
So it is down to Screen, Camera, Dual Sim and Quality for me between them.
The S9+ AMOLED screen still beats the iPhone OLED one - I appreciate what Apple have done to tweak the Samsung 2nd tier screen they use but it still doesn't quite match the flagship screen and in a few months, Samsung will be launching their '10 year' phone with an even better screen still.
Cameras are roughly the same; I always use post-processing anyway so for me I can make both cameras look equal. Again, in a few months I'd get next-gen tech too.
Dual Sim; a bit disappointing the 2nd Sim is an e-Sim that can't be used yet. I prefer the idea of e-Sim for all phones eventually though; no need for any open ports then and we can have a 'sealed' phone with even greater water and dust proofing. For now though, 2 hard SIM's (business and personal) are working for me.
Quality, I'll give this to Apple. The Samsung is very well made and feels premium, looks great etc but the XS Max does have a better look and feel overall - subjective, so that's just my opinion.
I used to prefer iOS to Android hands down but the last couple of Android Editions have changed that; they are equal now to me. So I have given it some thought and very nearly bought an XS Max but...decided to wait for the Samsung Galaxy '10' instead before making the decision. If I return to Apple, I think it's going to depend upon next year's model and whether it can persuade me to ditch the S'10'+ I'll most likely have by then.
i picked up the xs on friday, changing from a 7, had a couple of days to play around with it and my verdict is- good new phone and decent upgrade.
screen- amazing! the extra space/ size for websites is brilliant. didn’t think i’d notice it that much but it’s great for reading websites. not too fussed about the notch, they’ve kinda worked it well.
camera- wow, really impressed by this. definitely a replacement for an everyday point and shoot camera. won’t replace a full dslr but for every day quick snaps it’s amazing. also very impressed with the variable depth of field in portrait mode. that’s some funky computer processing going on.
face id- this was one of my main reasons for not upgrading to a X last year, but looks like there was no problems and it ‘just works’. i’ll be honest and say i do prefer the finger print scanner/ button for the app store and apple pay, but i’ll see how i get on.
battery- my 7 was showing 85% battery performance after 2 years which i thought was not bad. xs battery is better (could be just because it’s newer?!) but easily lasted a full day even with playing with the phone at every opportunity.
general- it’s pretty fast. to be expected tho. i’m sure future upgrades and apps will get bigger and swallow up all that speed.
now the downsides:
size- it’s quite a big thing. screen is great, the body is not actually much bigger than a 6/7 size, but it feels a lot thicker and a lot heavier. obviously all the fast new tech/ battery needs to fit in somewhere, but it’s definitel a bit chunkier. don’t think i could deal with the size of the xs max
think that’s about it for now. feels like a reasonable upgrade from the 7, would it be worth while from an 8 or X, dunno.
screen- amazing! the extra space/ size for websites is brilliant. didn’t think i’d notice it that much but it’s great for reading websites. not too fussed about the notch, they’ve kinda worked it well.
camera- wow, really impressed by this. definitely a replacement for an everyday point and shoot camera. won’t replace a full dslr but for every day quick snaps it’s amazing. also very impressed with the variable depth of field in portrait mode. that’s some funky computer processing going on.
face id- this was one of my main reasons for not upgrading to a X last year, but looks like there was no problems and it ‘just works’. i’ll be honest and say i do prefer the finger print scanner/ button for the app store and apple pay, but i’ll see how i get on.
battery- my 7 was showing 85% battery performance after 2 years which i thought was not bad. xs battery is better (could be just because it’s newer?!) but easily lasted a full day even with playing with the phone at every opportunity.
general- it’s pretty fast. to be expected tho. i’m sure future upgrades and apps will get bigger and swallow up all that speed.
now the downsides:
size- it’s quite a big thing. screen is great, the body is not actually much bigger than a 6/7 size, but it feels a lot thicker and a lot heavier. obviously all the fast new tech/ battery needs to fit in somewhere, but it’s definitel a bit chunkier. don’t think i could deal with the size of the xs max
think that’s about it for now. feels like a reasonable upgrade from the 7, would it be worth while from an 8 or X, dunno.
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