Apple October event, new iPad/Mac Mini/ MacBook Air/iMac
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300bhp/ton said:
The quality isn't lower, you just don't "personally" like the layout. Despite the fact it actually causes you no harm whatsoever.
Just because you can't comprehend why so much white space between icons looks ridiculous doesn't mean it doesn't look ridiculous. There's no way this s
t would fly if Jobs was still around, the guy understood good design.
K12beano said:
ashleyman said:
Was interested in the new iPad Pro but it just looks like a but like an enlarged iPhone 5.
Funny that. I’d just been thinking that an iPhone 5 just looks like a smaller version of an iPad Pro.....The older iPad Pro matched up with the design of the iPhone 6/7/8 models with it's colours, rounded edges and chrome on the home buttons. This latest iPad Pro looks like it belongs with the 5, with the squared edges and 2 tone colour scheme.
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
Just because you can't comprehend why so much white space between icons looks ridiculous doesn't mean it doesn't look ridiculous. There's no way this st would fly if Jobs was still around, the guy understood good design.
Wasn't jobs still alive when the iPad came about? The basic layout has not changed since the original iPad.t would fly if Jobs was still around, the guy understood good design.I agree there probably could be options at least to let you tweak it but Apple has never really been about giving the user too many choices.
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
300bhp/ton said:
The quality isn't lower, you just don't "personally" like the layout. Despite the fact it actually causes you no harm whatsoever.
Just because you can't comprehend why so much white space between icons looks ridiculous doesn't mean it doesn't look ridiculous. There's no way this st would fly if Jobs was still around, the guy understood good design.
Really?
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
Because it's funny how they claim to put insane amounts of effort to make everything look sexy and strive for perfection in every detail and then they leave the screen that 100% of users look at at least once every time they use the device looking like it was designed by Fisher Price for target groups between 2 to 6 years old. It's like Mercedes designing an AMG GT with interior in plastics that came from the Dacia factory. Only the most devoted sheep or people lacking sense of quality could claim that it doesn't bother them.
It's a bit unnecessary to tell me that I am a sheep and unable to tell what is and isn't quality, isn't it? I don't recall insulting you at all. It's just personal preference. The icon layout genuinely doesn't bother me, and it obviously does bother you very much. That's okay.
I may buy a new iPad, but I'd like to see them in person first. I really really don't need one, I have a previous generation 10.5" that's excellent. I've ordered a new Mini, at a rather embarrassingly high price. Still, it should do me for quite some time.
The new Air I'm really not sure about. I have an XPS 13" 9360 and it's brilliant... except for the screen aspect ratio. I really prefer the taller screens of the Surface Laptop and Apple laptops, but I love the performance, price and ports of the XPS. A new Air is super expensive, £1,600 in the spec I'd like, and kinda under powered for that I think. A Surface Laptop 2 and MacBook Pro are both around £1,800. Too much, even taking into account the residual value of the XPS.
Sigh. Much like with phones at the moment, no one really makes exactly what I want. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
TheJimi said:
leglessAlex said:
Sigh. Much like with phones at the moment, no one really makes exactly what I want. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
You're absolutely not dude.I've always wondered if you could go to one of the big tech companies, and ask them to build you a custom piece.
Looking to buy a reasonably high specced Mac-Mini which I want to last 6-8years. For home use is it worth paying £90 for 10Gb Ethernet? From what I can tell it is not something I currently need and since I am unlikely to do anything more than a bit of hobby Go-Pro video editing I can't think of any apps that may need it in a few years time.
jesusbuiltmycar said:
Looking to buy a reasonably high specced Mac-Mini which I want to last 6-8years. For home use is it worth paying £90 for 10Gb Ethernet? From what I can tell it is not something I currently need and since I am unlikely to do anything more than a bit of hobby Go-Pro video editing I can't think of any apps that may need it in a few years time.
I reckon it's not at all worth it for a home network, but it might help residuals slightly.That's a guess though. I didn't bother with it on mine, by the time I have a 10Gb home network (if ever) I'll be looking for a new computer.
Zod said:
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
300bhp/ton said:
The quality isn't lower, you just don't "personally" like the layout. Despite the fact it actually causes you no harm whatsoever.
Just because you can't comprehend why so much white space between icons looks ridiculous doesn't mean it doesn't look ridiculous. There's no way this st would fly if Jobs was still around, the guy understood good design.Really?
Burwood said:
BFF, we get that you're not an Apple fan. The thread is for Apple owners and prospective owners. Not trolls.Why don't you kindly rack off to the MSFT surface board. TIA 
Yes BFF, go away and let us discuss important issues.PS who's BFF? Is that 300bhp/ton's alternate nickname?
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
Zod said:
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
300bhp/ton said:
The quality isn't lower, you just don't "personally" like the layout. Despite the fact it actually causes you no harm whatsoever.
Just because you can't comprehend why so much white space between icons looks ridiculous doesn't mean it doesn't look ridiculous. There's no way this st would fly if Jobs was still around, the guy understood good design.Really?
We get it: you have a very dogmatic view of this. Nobody else cares about it.
Zod said:
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
Zod said:
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
300bhp/ton said:
The quality isn't lower, you just don't "personally" like the layout. Despite the fact it actually causes you no harm whatsoever.
Just because you can't comprehend why so much white space between icons looks ridiculous doesn't mean it doesn't look ridiculous. There's no way this st would fly if Jobs was still around, the guy understood good design.Really?
We get it: you have a very dogmatic view of this. Nobody else cares about it.
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
He liked it then because it was designed to look good on a 9.7 inch screen FFS. He was insanely obsessive compulsive about proportions and he would have gone mental had someone asked him to sign off on an interface with gaps between icons twice the size of the actual icons. You have to take a freaking bus to move from one icon to another on the 12.9inch Pro. I guess "aesthetically pleasing" or golden ratio or just good design is not what the current Apple and most of it's customer base cares about, eh?
Your finger has to take a bus. Get out of here FFS. If you aren't going to be remotely sensible, nobody is going to care or agree with you.BTW - have you considered what a 13" MacBook looks like if you plug it into a 60" TV? Do you think Launchpad suddenly condenses to a single pane with smaller icons and smaller gaps?
We get it, you don't like it. But please get over yourself. Nobody else seems remotely interested on something that is by and large completely trivial.
300bhp/ton said:
BTW - have you considered what a 13" MacBook looks like if you plug it into a 60" TV? Do you think Launchpad suddenly condenses to a single pane with smaller icons and smaller gaps?
This is scary. You clearly have no idea how these things work and/or the difference between screen size/resolution/PPI/scaling and yet you try to tell me that I'm wrong? So to answer your question, yes launchpad will change scaling AND icon sizes with change in resolution (screensize makes no difference unless resolution increases).
300bhp/ton said:
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
He liked it then because it was designed to look good on a 9.7 inch screen FFS. He was insanely obsessive compulsive about proportions and he would have gone mental had someone asked him to sign off on an interface with gaps between icons twice the size of the actual icons. You have to take a freaking bus to move from one icon to another on the 12.9inch Pro. I guess "aesthetically pleasing" or golden ratio or just good design is not what the current Apple and most of it's customer base cares about, eh?
Your finger has to take a bus. Get out of here FFS. If you aren't going to be remotely sensible, nobody is going to care or agree with you.BTW - have you considered what a 13" MacBook looks like if you plug it into a 60" TV? Do you think Launchpad suddenly condenses to a single pane with smaller icons and smaller gaps?
We get it, you don't like it. But please get over yourself. Nobody else seems remotely interested on something that is by and large completely trivial.
would be good - and yes, it is a flaw currently on the larger ipads
Apple have a drive for simplicity - but there is also a degree of arrogance in their design - in that there is only one way to do things and the whole world will like it - we come across it a lot in work - e.g. if you set up an email account without SSL - and tell the iphone app NO to SSL - and save, it will simply turn SSL back on - Apple believes that they know better than anyone else...
the ipad Pro does need reviewing in terms of how many app icons sit on a huge screen - equally, apple need to start considering that the user can have choice - if they want to position it as a more 'professional' device then it needs to cater for professionals having different ways of doing things...
will it stop me having one - no, I have ordered one - do I care - yes, will it change in the short term, sadly not...
anyone who remembers the early days of Macs with ResEdit and customising - you had access to change most things - now they are locked down - better for many, but not for all
I have a late 2013 21' imac and was rather hoping that there would be an upgraded 27' imac to tempt me.
I would like something that gives a higher resolution and a bit more woof.
I have a second monitor thats UHD that I thought would go well with a new 27 inch imac.
Looking at the prices for a mac mini, would it be better to get a low spec one and (if its possible) pop a large ssd in or actually, would it be a smart plan to get a macbook and use that to power 2 uhd monitors and have a decent size drive installed?
At least the macbook would be portable and do the same job as a mini when connected to 2 x uhd monitors.
Fuzzy logic?
I would like something that gives a higher resolution and a bit more woof.
I have a second monitor thats UHD that I thought would go well with a new 27 inch imac.
Looking at the prices for a mac mini, would it be better to get a low spec one and (if its possible) pop a large ssd in or actually, would it be a smart plan to get a macbook and use that to power 2 uhd monitors and have a decent size drive installed?
At least the macbook would be portable and do the same job as a mini when connected to 2 x uhd monitors.
Fuzzy logic?
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