Apple October event, new iPad/Mac Mini/ MacBook Air/iMac
Discussion
RammyMP said:
I’ve managed to hold off getting an iPhone XR but I went to Costco today, they had XRs for £720, I can trade my 8 in for £325 so new phone for less than £400, that’s a deal isn’t it!
You don't say what size memory but either way £325 is pretty sharp. You could spend a lot of time shopping around and maybe achieve a bit more but......Tiggsy said:
glad it looks the same! Mine (bought last year) flys along for the 4k video editing I do so the performance stuff is no big deal - would have not liked it if it looked "old style" though! 
I wonder how much longer the design will last. I bought a late-2012 model when they first came out (the first year of slim iMacs I think).
It went wrong in 2017. I bought a new replacement and it looked exactly the same as my old machine side by side.
The next refresh saw the iMac Pro released in exactly the same shape, so I thought that would see the shape retained for a couple more years. There's no way that could leave customers with a brand new shape £2k machine when others with the £5k+ one were stuck with the old design.
There aren't many other designs in tech that are nearly nine years old. Even Apple's own MacBook and iPhone lines looked quite different back then.
kingston12 said:
Tiggsy said:
glad it looks the same! Mine (bought last year) flys along for the 4k video editing I do so the performance stuff is no big deal - would have not liked it if it looked "old style" though!
I wonder how much longer the design will last. I bought a late-2012 model when they first came out (the first year of slim iMacs I think).
It went wrong in 2017. I bought a new replacement and it looked exactly the same as my old machine side by side.
The next refresh saw the iMac Pro released in exactly the same shape, so I thought that would see the shape retained for a couple more years. There's no way that could leave customers with a brand new shape £2k machine when others with the £5k+ one were stuck with the old design.
There aren't many other designs in tech that are nearly nine years old. Even Apple's own MacBook and iPhone lines looked quite different back then.
Burwood said:
The design is great. Changing the chin and removing the bezel would only add a lot of extra cost. Same with an 8K screen. I don't want to pay £4k. I'd rather have excellent resolution and power for a reasonable price. Comments already made that the i9 chip will create a lot of heat and with no upgraded cooling it will most likely throttle down anyway. So my thoughts are, stick with the 3.7 6 core, 1TB SSD and buy after market Ram+apple care, all in under £3k. It's over kill for me anyway. I don't do any photo/video editing
I'm happy enough with the design. I just wonder if they are losing sales from people delaying a relatively big purchase because they think a completely new design is around the corner.Burwood said:
Comments already made that the i9 chip will create a lot of heat and with no upgraded cooling it will most likely throttle down anyway. So my thoughts are, stick with the 3.7 6 core, 1TB SSD and buy after market Ram+apple care, all in under £3k. It's over kill for me anyway. I don't do any photo/video editing
When I bought mine in 2017, I spent a while fiddling with all of the configurations on the 27", but ended up with the basic model with a 512GB SSD instead of the Fusion Drive. I didn't even bother with Apple Care because it is always the hard drives that have gone on these in the past for me, upped the RAM to 24GB after market, and it flies along with everything I use it for, although it's not really heavy lifting. I thought I'd miss the storage space, but have actually found 512GB to be fine as I have got a NAS and USB3 externals.
kingston12 said:
Burwood said:
The design is great. Changing the chin and removing the bezel would only add a lot of extra cost. Same with an 8K screen. I don't want to pay £4k. I'd rather have excellent resolution and power for a reasonable price. Comments already made that the i9 chip will create a lot of heat and with no upgraded cooling it will most likely throttle down anyway. So my thoughts are, stick with the 3.7 6 core, 1TB SSD and buy after market Ram+apple care, all in under £3k. It's over kill for me anyway. I don't do any photo/video editing
I'm happy enough with the design. I just wonder if they are losing sales from people delaying a relatively big purchase because they think a completely new design is around the corner.Burwood said:
Comments already made that the i9 chip will create a lot of heat and with no upgraded cooling it will most likely throttle down anyway. So my thoughts are, stick with the 3.7 6 core, 1TB SSD and buy after market Ram+apple care, all in under £3k. It's over kill for me anyway. I don't do any photo/video editing
When I bought mine in 2017, I spent a while fiddling with all of the configurations on the 27", but ended up with the basic model with a 512GB SSD instead of the Fusion Drive. I didn't even bother with Apple Care because it is always the hard drives that have gone on these in the past for me, upped the RAM to 24GB after market, and it flies along with everything I use it for, although it's not really heavy lifting. I thought I'd miss the storage space, but have actually found 512GB to be fine as I have got a NAS and USB3 externals.
I've got a 2014 iMac Retina. When I bought it I got the one with the best CPU and GPU and then added the ram after delivery. It's fine for editing stills and other office tasks which is basically all I do on it. It does lag a little bit when trying to work on layer heavy PSD files but it's not bad at all considering the files are 3GB and up.
It's only got a basic 1TB fusion drive and it's been perfect - keep live projects on the local drive to work on and once the project is finished the files get moved to a raid backup and an off site drive. All my office/admin files are on a Google Drive folder which is shared between my desktop, laptop and phone.
I also have a 2017 MacBook Pro I use when I am away from home and I've found the MacBook is much faster at raw processing than the iMac - things like importing camera raw files and converting them to DNG's and building previews in lightroom and skin retouching all seem to work much better on the MacBook probably because of a newer processor.
I'm starting to get a bit of screen burn on the iMac display but it's fine for now and doesn't need replacing yet. I have been keeping an eye on the Mac Pro as that's what I would like to get next but the iMac Pro is looking appealing too. I think 2020 is when I'll upgrade the iMac but we'll see. The iMac design is very nice, can't see how they would improve it.
It's only got a basic 1TB fusion drive and it's been perfect - keep live projects on the local drive to work on and once the project is finished the files get moved to a raid backup and an off site drive. All my office/admin files are on a Google Drive folder which is shared between my desktop, laptop and phone.
I also have a 2017 MacBook Pro I use when I am away from home and I've found the MacBook is much faster at raw processing than the iMac - things like importing camera raw files and converting them to DNG's and building previews in lightroom and skin retouching all seem to work much better on the MacBook probably because of a newer processor.
I'm starting to get a bit of screen burn on the iMac display but it's fine for now and doesn't need replacing yet. I have been keeping an eye on the Mac Pro as that's what I would like to get next but the iMac Pro is looking appealing too. I think 2020 is when I'll upgrade the iMac but we'll see. The iMac design is very nice, can't see how they would improve it.
Edited by ashleyman on Wednesday 20th March 18:03
Burwood said:
My photo library is 300GB and growing and if I want it mirrored on some cloud systems it doubles that to 600GB.However, this time i'll get a big external backup drive and apparently I can move my photos library permanently to the back up drive such that the photos App just referenced this drive rather than the SSD onboard.
That's what I do. I had the 3TB Fusion drive last time around, but my iTunes library is over 1TB and Photos is almost the same, so I knew I'd have to go a different route this time.I have got those libraries stored on an 8TB USB drive and another 8TB for a fixed Time Machine backup. I've got a second backup of everything on a passport drive that sits at work.
I've just upgraded my NAS which is used as a media server for now, but might consolidate the Mac stuff onto there. Fortunately, big storage is cheap now, as long as you are happy with spinning discs.
Burwood said:
My iMac is late 2010 and is on its last legs
You're doing well with a 2010! I had a 2008 and 2012, both HDDs died and were uneconomical to have repaired properly. Each time I bought a new one, then repaired the old one myself and sold it on.I'm still using a 2010 iMac.
I was holding out for an iMac update with a T2 chip, as that seems to be Apple's newer architecture. It wouldn't surprise me if a few years down the line new macOS feature will need the T2 chip.
Looks like it will be a Mac Mini or possibly a MacBook Pro for me.
I was holding out for an iMac update with a T2 chip, as that seems to be Apple's newer architecture. It wouldn't surprise me if a few years down the line new macOS feature will need the T2 chip.
Looks like it will be a Mac Mini or possibly a MacBook Pro for me.
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