Sim free Android phone for £200
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PF62 said:
With the iPhone XS being 770% more expensive than the Moto G6 Play with an an £870 difference in price I would expect it to be more than "head and shoulders above" but in the next galaxy.
The OP asked for a comparison of cheap and expensive phones and whether the expensive were worth the extra.Ignoring the terminology, that is what I have tried to answer. IMO there is no definitive answer, it's down to perception of value and quality (as it is for cars and many other things). If you want iOS (I do) then you have to accept it comes with a premium over the top of the Android range. Part of the value to me is how it works with my Mac and iPads and the wife's, work-supplied, iPhone 8. All three phones share a single Apple Music sub. I also have excellent experience of Apple support which also carries an indeterminate value but there must be one.
Are the £700+ Android phones worth the extra over the likes of the G6 plus, I suspect they would be to me if I wanted an Android phone. They may not be to others. From what I see at work, it is to many others too as my colleagues seem to prefer the Pixel 3 and S9 to the G6 and the like (7 to 1 in my office with mine the only Apple).
PS it's £1020 difference if you must know and £400 more than I paid for my MacBook Pro.
I have an AX1 ultra, (bit over budget at £250) just had it replaced by Argos as the headphone socket failed after 9 months. Apparently Sony make them out of chocolate - if you used the jack output be very careful! ....saying that it's a great phone, can't really fault it. Had the option of a refund but took the same again.
waynedear said:
Bought a Moto G6 yesterday, only messed with it so far as I am waiting for a case, £179.99 from John Lewis with their 2 year guarantee
Just to clarify, isn’t the 2 year guarantee a manufacturers legal responsibility? JL offer extended but the initial two years is nothing to do with them afaik.Toilet Duck said:
Can I jump on this as well as in same situation as OP? My only "must have" requirement is NFC, and hopefully as good/better than my current Wileyfox Swift 2X
I currently have a Swift. The original one. Bought it in Jun 2016 and it's still going strong.It has suffered a bit since Cyanogen folded and it's gone on to proper Android. Get the odd reboot now and again and a little lag. Contacts also seem a bit buggy and don't show names in the phone app. However, considering the £120 I paid for it over two years ago, it's done really well.
I'll change it when it stops working.
stemll said:
PF62 said:
With the iPhone XS being 770% more expensive than the Moto G6 Play with an an £870 difference in price I would expect it to be more than "head and shoulders above" but in the next galaxy.
The OP asked for a comparison of cheap and expensive phones and whether the expensive were worth the extra.stemll said:
Ignoring the terminology, that is what I have tried to answer. IMO there is no definitive answer, it's down to perception of value and quality (as it is for cars and many other things). If you want iOS (I do) then you have to accept it comes with a premium over the top of the Android range. Part of the value to me is how it works with my Mac and iPads and the wife's, work-supplied, iPhone 8. All three phones share a single Apple Music sub. I also have excellent experience of Apple support which also carries an indeterminate value but there must be one.
And that is lovely, except the OP was asking about £200 sim free Android phones.stemll said:
Are the £700+ Android phones worth the extra over the likes of the G6 plus, I suspect they would be to me if I wanted an Android phone. They may not be to others. From what I see at work, it is to many others too as my colleagues seem to prefer the Pixel 3 and S9 to the G6 and the like (7 to 1 in my office with mine the only Apple).
All of which are more than £200.stemll said:
PS it's £1020 difference if you must know and £400 more than I paid for my MacBook Pro.
Whoopee. Anyway your answer seemed to be that the iPhone XS at £1020 more expensive than the Moto G6 Play, which at £130 isn't a £200 Android phone either, was that it was not significantly better and you paid the extra £1020 because you could.
PF62 said:
Whoopee.
Anyway your answer seemed to be that the iPhone XS at £1020 more expensive than the Moto G6 Play, which at £130 isn't a £200 Android phone either, was that it was not significantly better and you paid the extra £1020 because you could.
Actually he did ask that...Anyway your answer seemed to be that the iPhone XS at £1020 more expensive than the Moto G6 Play, which at £130 isn't a £200 Android phone either, was that it was not significantly better and you paid the extra £1020 because you could.
Kermit power said:
Just out of interest, does anyone have a phone at this price point and also a £700+ flagship type phone to do a comparison report? I just can't see how the extra cost can be justified!
CX53 said:
PF62 said:
Whoopee.
Anyway your answer seemed to be that the iPhone XS at £1020 more expensive than the Moto G6 Play, which at £130 isn't a £200 Android phone either, was that it was not significantly better and you paid the extra £1020 because you could.
Actually he did ask that...Anyway your answer seemed to be that the iPhone XS at £1020 more expensive than the Moto G6 Play, which at £130 isn't a £200 Android phone either, was that it was not significantly better and you paid the extra £1020 because you could.
Kermit power said:
Just out of interest, does anyone have a phone at this price point and also a £700+ flagship type phone to do a comparison report? I just can't see how the extra cost can be justified!
I didn't think it was an unreasonable question to ask though.
I bought a Dooggee X5 for 40ish quid off Amaxon. It's s
t and came with this annoying browser pop up icon every morning with a picture of a young girl, looked like a porn site icon. I had to install a firewall to stop it.
When I think it only cost 40ish quid though I have to admit for the money it's actually a good phone, just a shame it came with android and not windows. I hate the android system.
t and came with this annoying browser pop up icon every morning with a picture of a young girl, looked like a porn site icon. I had to install a firewall to stop it. When I think it only cost 40ish quid though I have to admit for the money it's actually a good phone, just a shame it came with android and not windows. I hate the android system.
CX53 said:
Whoops!!
But yes, still interesting to hear, the forums aren’t just for the OP of a thread, but for all to read and contribute.
Except they were comparing a £130 phone with a £1020 phone (and from my reading didn't find a difference worth the price difference, just fancied / wanted to pay £1020 for a phone for the label).But yes, still interesting to hear, the forums aren’t just for the OP of a thread, but for all to read and contribute.
A £130 phone is heading towards the bottom of the price point where corners will be cut, but a £200 phone gives the manufacturer space to not make such cut backs. So the difference between such a phone and something in the £700 range (or a £1020 iPhone with the Apple tax added) is likely to be significantly less.
Kermit power said:
Just out of interest, does anyone have a phone at this price point and also a £700+ flagship type phone to do a comparison report? I just can't see how the extra cost can be justified!
So I recently now own a Note 9 and the Mrs owns a Huawai P20 Lite. Probably 90% of people that own a flagship just because they are expensive and seen as the best probably do not actually need them. The P20 my Mrs owns would do them just fine.For me the Note gets used all day, my old Note 4 served me for 5 years without missing a beat and only recently got replaced when the 9 came out. I use mine as a computer when offsite, being able to just plug into the back of someone elses monitor and then get going as if I had brought my laptop with me is a Godsend (Samsung Dex) and saves me so much lugging about. My laptop now just sits in the office and only comes out when a big job breaks out. The Note (when used with Dex) is more than capable of webdesign tasks, simple image editing, office tasks...Netflix
The thing is my laptop, phone, diary, organiser, newspaper and is the thing that allows me to run my businesses from anywhere as I can even watch the CCTV from one of my sites whilst writing an email with the split window feature and then be on a phone call on loudspeaker too and the phone acts like normal with no freezing. The thing is in constant use for 12-14 hours of every day. The old one took 5 years of that with no issues.My Mrs on the other hand uses hers for Facebook and buying more tat off Craigslist.
The point is, if it was my Mrs, no, it would not be worth the extra money. She would not use the features that your paying the extra money for. Most phone users don't have a need for it and so its never going to be worth it as they can browse Facebook and watch Netflix on most devices at much less. It might not be as sharp maybe, and you may have to wait a few extra nano seconds whilst the app loads...but worth £700+?
Even in my case, a high end Chinese copy phone would probably have almost the same features and would cost a lot less but I don't know of anything that does them all, certainly nothing that I would trust to get me through the next 5 years without any issues. For me the price is worth it, at times it almost replaces an extra staff member so when you look at it that way, it's money well spent...but I'm probably the exception to most users.
Edited by ymwoods on Sunday 18th November 16:36
I think Kermit's question is great. I use a £150 phone to play Real Racing 3. It's probably the most processor intensive a phone can get (my old S3 can't cope and just stutters all the time). My new XA1 is fine with it (sometimes the sound stutters "and so it begins"). Fair enough if people want to pay for a name. Just makes me think "WTF" (even though I happily accept people might pay £5k for a Rolex - but it's easy to argue the difference between a Rolex Sub and a Timex diver due to processes and manufacturing beyond not cutting corners).
garyhun said:
waynedear said:
Bought a Moto G6 yesterday, only messed with it so far as I am waiting for a case, £179.99 from John Lewis with their 2 year guarantee
Just to clarify, isn’t the 2 year guarantee a manufacturers legal responsibility? JL offer extended but the initial two years is nothing to do with them afaik.outnumbered said:
I've just ordered a Motorola One, which has snuck under £200 on Amazon. I was going to get a Moto g6, but I liked the idea of Android One and guaranteed future updates .
Android One delays the point of planned obselescence, so definitely a plus point. It's one of the reasons why I chose the Nokia - saves having to hack the phone to keep it current.The Nokia also feels really solid and heavy compared to a Moto. Solid is good, heavy is noticeable.
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