Weapons-grade home WiFi suggestions

Weapons-grade home WiFi suggestions

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theboss

6,925 posts

220 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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I suspect what you're seeing in the case of the decent powerline is a pair of G.hn devices rather than the various older standards some of which have been around for decades.

I've bought some G.hn modems to run ethernet over a few stretches of coax, and the performance is pretty much consistent with gigabit ethernet.

It would be interesting to see how they would work in my home rather then the TP-Link ones I have which max at around 75mbps

Blown2CV

28,903 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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theboss said:
I suspect what you're seeing in the case of the decent powerline is a pair of G.hn devices rather than the various older standards some of which have been around for decades.

I've bought some G.hn modems to run ethernet over a few stretches of coax, and the performance is pretty much consistent with gigabit ethernet.

It would be interesting to see how they would work in my home rather then the TP-Link ones I have which max at around 75mbps
mine are G.hn though. They aren't terrible but against a billed 2400mbps between nodes I get 200-600mbps, and this is only within a single ring main. It is not optimisable further than that unless i start rearranging the rest of my house, which kind of defeats the point of using powerline at all. As many things as possible are already plugged into the APs' isolated power sockets already. As I say they're not junk but it's pretty far from what supposedly is possible.

Captain_Morgan

1,229 posts

60 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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Reports of good improvements in powerline performance after having rcd’s/mcd’s replaced & sockets re terminated.

I guess oxidisation & failing breakers are the issues in some cases.

Though if not confident in doing yourself then I guess having ethernet runs installed might be better long term value.

Blown2CV

28,903 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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Captain_Morgan said:
Reports of good improvements in powerline performance after having rcd’s/mcd’s replaced & sockets re terminated.

I guess oxidisation & failing breakers are the issues in some cases.

Though if not confident in doing yourself then I guess having ethernet runs installed might be better long term value.
i had all the house wiring assessed and remediated as necessary in 2022. New RCD etc.

ecs0set

2,471 posts

285 months

Wednesday 4th January 2023
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Seventyseven7 said:
I've then unplugged the Cat 5E cable that goes from the switch to the Unifi AP via a POE injector and run a speed test. This is the cable that goes directly into the AP.
Can you just confirm that your AP is showing GbE?

Like this:



Apologies if you have confirmed this already. Just checking your PoE injector isn't behaving differently when connected to the AP than to your laptop.

Captain_Morgan

1,229 posts

60 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Blown2CV said:
Captain_Morgan said:
Reports of good improvements in powerline performance after having rcd’s/mcd’s replaced & sockets re terminated.

I guess oxidisation & failing breakers are the issues in some cases.

Though if not confident in doing yourself then I guess having ethernet runs installed might be better long term value.
i had all the house wiring assessed and remediated as necessary in 2022. New RCD etc.
I meant to qualify that with a ‘some reports of…’

Gary C

12,500 posts

180 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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There was a product that could use the UHF wiring for TV's in a house as a local network. Shielded Coax is much better than mains wiring but it never seemed to take off.

thebraketester

14,257 posts

139 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Gary C said:
There was a product that could use the UHF wiring for TV's in a house as a local network. Shielded Coax is much better than mains wiring but it never seemed to take off.
Speed?

e-honda

8,926 posts

147 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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I have occasionally wondered about doing a network by piping WiFi through coax.
Never given it any serious thought but can't see why it wouldn't work

Captain_Morgan

1,229 posts

60 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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thebraketester said:
Speed?
Cocaine?

somouk

1,425 posts

199 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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e-honda said:
I have occasionally wondered about doing a network by piping WiFi through coax.
Never given it any serious thought but can't see why it wouldn't work
Networking used to use Coax before it used the more modern twisted pair cables.

It can be quick over short distances but good luck finding things to switch it or convert it back to more modern tech now.

Gary C

12,500 posts

180 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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thebraketester said:
Gary C said:
There was a product that could use the UHF wiring for TV's in a house as a local network. Shielded Coax is much better than mains wiring but it never seemed to take off.
Speed?
In theory faster than powerline given its a shielded medium, basically its DOCSIS.

But it never took off.

Gary C

12,500 posts

180 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Yazza54

18,563 posts

182 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Yazza54 said:
For anyone looking for a reasonably priced wireless mesh system I recently bought a Mercusys Halo H50G after lots of messing with stty repeater booster thingys over the years that just kill the speed completely.

Very easy to set up. First unit patched into my BT router and then I have two upstairs. It does knock the speed down a bit but still more than fast enough, I'm getting a good 200mbps in rooms where I used to struggle for a signal at all and even got good signal and speed outside where I used to have nothing. All internal walls in my home are brick and it seemed to have lots of dead spots previously, plus my internet comes into the living room meaning the back of the house is a fair distance away. This has sorted all my issues.

I'm sure there are "better" systems that maybe have even better range or don't knock the speed down but I think it was well worth the £110 I paid.

I'll confess I did at first buy an older version but I didn't realise the older system only had 100mb ports, so it immediately knocked my 500 down to 100 then obviously on the farthest away units I was down even further, thankfully the Amazon return was every easy. Sent it back and bought the one described above which has gigabit Ethernet ports. Probably a very obvious thing to check for the more techy people on here but I completely missed it and thought I was getting an amazing deal hehe

Edited by Yazza54 on Sunday 11th December 21:03
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nebpor

3,753 posts

236 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Gary C said:
It is indeed and I’ve pondered buying it as my house had virgin cable strung between rooms. I re-activated the cable so I could get virgin broadband, but I’m using eero pro 6 on wireless backhaul - I’ve considered using this to wire backhaul, but I’m just going to wait for some imminent building work and wire it using cat 5e/6 instead

It’s a decent solution for the typical American house as they had cable runs everywhere

Blown2CV

28,903 posts

204 months

Thursday 5th January 2023
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Gary C said:
There was a product that could use the UHF wiring for TV's in a house as a local network. Shielded Coax is much better than mains wiring but it never seemed to take off.
all networking was coax 25 years ago.

Gary C

12,500 posts

180 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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Blown2CV said:
Gary C said:
There was a product that could use the UHF wiring for TV's in a house as a local network. Shielded Coax is much better than mains wiring but it never seemed to take off.
all networking was coax 25 years ago.
Certainly was. I still use original thick ethernet at work.

thebraketester

14,257 posts

139 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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Gary C said:
Blown2CV said:
Gary C said:
There was a product that could use the UHF wiring for TV's in a house as a local network. Shielded Coax is much better than mains wiring but it never seemed to take off.
all networking was coax 25 years ago.
Certainly was. I still use original thick ethernet at work.
My memories of coax network are from the mid 90s trying to get two home computers to talk to each other. Failed miserably. Still bugs me today that we couldn't get it working.

Gary C

12,500 posts

180 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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thebraketester said:
Gary C said:
Blown2CV said:
Gary C said:
There was a product that could use the UHF wiring for TV's in a house as a local network. Shielded Coax is much better than mains wiring but it never seemed to take off.
all networking was coax 25 years ago.
Certainly was. I still use original thick ethernet at work.
My memories of coax network are from the mid 90s trying to get two home computers to talk to each other. Failed miserably. Still bugs me today that we couldn't get it working.
Thick ethernet needed terminating correctly and the vampire taps had to be installed at the standing wave peaks but other than that it was fairly simple. But mid 90's it would have been thin ethernet I would imagine and that should indeed have been fairly simple.

Corso Marche

1,724 posts

202 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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Gary C said:
There was a product that could use the UHF wiring for TV's in a house as a local network. Shielded Coax is much better than mains wiring but it never seemed to take off.
Still available from a few manufacturers - not too expensive either if the property already has coax installed and running to different areas which isn't being used for cable/tv or any other use.