System bottleneck

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HarryFlatters

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4,203 posts

212 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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So maybe this month I'll have a look at a new SSD, then start saving for a new 1151 mobo/processor/memory...

Food for thought.


MintyScot

848 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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HarryFlatters said:
So maybe this month I'll have a look at a new SSD, then start saving for a new 1151 mobo/processor/memory...

Food for thought.
I would have a look at the next gen AMD Zen/Ryzen CPU's. I suspect we will see them released in the summer and they should be very good and probably much better value than Intel.

chris285

811 posts

132 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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I'd look at gpu before cpu/board/ram tbh in terms of upgrade route, I went from a 970 to a 1070ti and at 1080 i get good framerates and I am using a 6700k i7 cpu so not that much newer

For system basics as mentioned ryzen will save you a ton and get you 90%+ of gaming performance, but wait for next gen as it sounds like it could blow intel away potentially

And yes i'd say a second SSD as a game drive, and a fresh install of windows too

ging84

8,899 posts

146 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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After looking at the origonal post, I get the feeling that a huge amount of unnecessary data will be a factor.

HarryFlatters

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4,203 posts

212 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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ging84 said:
After looking at the origonal post, I get the feeling that a huge amount of unnecessary data will be a factor.
I'm planning to spend some time de-crapifying, defregging etc over the next few weeks.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

247 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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HarryFlatters said:
I'm planning to spend some time de-crapifying, defregging etc over the next few weeks.
That's not what he meant hehe

HarryFlatters

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Thursday 24th January 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
That's not what he meant hehe
confused

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

247 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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HarryFlatters said:
confused
I am pretty certain he is referring to how much 'data' you included in your first post.

Mr_Yogi

3,278 posts

255 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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What exactly is slugish about the PC? Gaming or general use?

There is no way that should feel slugish for general use unless your SSD is full or you have a st load of things sitting in your systray from start up.

I've recently upgraded from an i7 3770K (ok it was overclocked) to a Ryzen 5 2600 (also overclocked) with high speed DDR4 and the system doesn't really feel much different. In fact I doubt I could tell the difference back to back just browsing the web/ using office etc. Both systems used the same SSD's.

For gaming I've got a pair of GTX1070s and gaming doesn't seem much different either, gaming at 1440p so if games are the issue then upgrade the videocard to something like a GTX1070/ RTX2060 or RTX2070, although the GTX970 should be plenty fast enough for 1080p gaming.

If you are using productivity tools, such as video editing, rendering, etc. that benefit from multiple CPU cores then look to a new platform, but that'll mean new RAM, Motherboard and CPU. Maybe you could find a second hand i7 4970K or 4990K, it might be worth it, especially if you can sell on your i5.


HarryFlatters

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4,203 posts

212 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
I am pretty certain he is referring to how much 'data' you included in your first post.
Can't win...

Mr_Yogi said:
What exactly is slugish about the PC? Gaming or general use?
it's mended itself, thanks smile

captain_cynic

12,022 posts

95 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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HarryFlatters said:
it's mended itself, thanks smile
Following a bit of percussive maintenance smile

Good to hear though.

budgie smuggler

5,388 posts

159 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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Mr_Yogi said:
What exactly is slugish about the PC? Gaming or general use?

There is no way that should feel slugish for general use unless your SSD is full or you have a st load of things sitting in your systray from start up.

I've recently upgraded from an i7 3770K (ok it was overclocked) to a Ryzen 5 2600 (also overclocked) with high speed DDR4 and the system doesn't really feel much different. In fact I doubt I could tell the difference back to back just browsing the web/ using office etc. Both systems used the same SSD's.

For gaming I've got a pair of GTX1070s and gaming doesn't seem much different either, gaming at 1440p so if games are the issue then upgrade the videocard to something like a GTX1070/ RTX2060 or RTX2070, although the GTX970 should be plenty fast enough for 1080p gaming.

If you are using productivity tools, such as video editing, rendering, etc. that benefit from multiple CPU cores then look to a new platform, but that'll mean new RAM, Motherboard and CPU. Maybe you could find a second hand i7 4970K or 4990K, it might be worth it, especially if you can sell on your i5.
Possibly because the single-thread performance on the 3770K was actually slightly better than that of the 2600. As you say, it will still be a lot faster on mutithreaded workloads though due to the extra two cores.