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AJB88

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12,452 posts

172 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Flashed mine last night so far so good apart from one app, the one I knew wouldn't work even thought they said it would.... Barclays.

I've also got the build number on quick toggle, first thing I did was turn dark theme on.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Updated my pixel. Can't use my banking app. Barclays. Like the new swipe configuration and dark mode good but nothing revolutionary

TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Gren said:
Same here. Their testing has been shocking of late
Yeah mine will not accept my digital key password to login but I can use it to generate codes (not very useful mostly!).

I've solved my keyboard not switching to dark. I worked out that if you've ever picked a custom theme it will stick with it regardless. Hence I've had to clear the data on my Gboard app and that has now made it honour the dark theme when selected.

AJB88

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172 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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I've turned gesture controls on will see how I get on with them, access already open apps seems a little clunky swiping up then holding the screen.

Gonna be a nightmare after a few beers haha.

TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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AJB88 said:
I've turned gesture controls on will see how I get on with them, access already open apps seems a little clunky swiping up then holding the screen.

Gonna be a nightmare after a few beers haha.
I'm getting used to it. Very iOS like with the difference being I can swipe from either side to go back which is useful.

No getting away from it though but the slide up gesture to access the recents isn't as convenient as a button but I do like the slide across to access, and normally it's only a recently run app I need anyway (I don't go through my list looking for apps I ran many hours ago) so I'll get over it.

TameRacingDriver

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273 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Think I like the new gestures now. They've been quite well done and just need a few finishing touches. Much better than the crappy pill system which was the worst of both worlds.

Phone seems slightly quicker to me too. Fingerprint sensor especially so.

Bluetooth quick settings much improved just by removing the extra press needed to access previous devices.

Funk

26,297 posts

210 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Since the update to Android 10 I've had issues with Blokada; looks like Google have found a way to screw it up as it doesn't even work when apps are set to bypass it (such as Nationwide etc). Can't browse at all on Chrome, Brave or Firefox. Having lived ad-free for so long I can't go back to Android packed with ads.

Anyone else having the same issue?

TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Can't say I'd heard of it. Can't say I'm surprised either since Google relies on advert revenue. Although adverts don't appear to be a massive problem for me apart from chrome / internet generally.

Funk

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210 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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TameRacingDriver said:
Can't say I'd heard of it. Can't say I'm surprised either since Google relies on advert revenue. Although adverts don't appear to be a massive problem for me apart from chrome / internet generally.
Blokada has blocked 3.5m ads/ad server connections for me. That's a massive amount of data saved and information not leaked. I'm on a Pixel 2 XL and found that page load times improved massively when huge quantity of ad-related st was stripped away.

I'm sure the Blokada devs must be aware and will sort come up with a solution soon. I can't put up with for long all the ads that are now back again.

EDIT: I've just had a look on their Telegram chat and the issue seems to be that Google re-enabled the Private DNS settings when it went to 10. Turning that off seems to have resolved the problem (as far as I can tell).

Still, I don't think the change from 9 to 10 is anything particularly incredible - feels like a '9.x' upgrade rather than warranting a whole new version...?

Edited by Funk on Wednesday 4th September 16:58

AJB88

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Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Had to go back to the old 2 button navigation rather than gesture, I use Firefox, without the back button at bottom there was no way of going back a page when surfing.

Funk

26,297 posts

210 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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I didn't like gesture input at all, very glad to see the 3-button remains an option.

TameRacingDriver

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273 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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AJB88 said:
Had to go back to the old 2 button navigation rather than gesture, I use Firefox, without the back button at bottom there was no way of going back a page when surfing.
Surely you would just swipe from the edge as you would any other app?

The only thing I would say for me was a big miss about the buttons is the back history when you hold down the button. Although I didn't use it that much. I wouldn't say the gestures are really any better (than buttons) but I don't mind them and I like living on the edge biggrin saying that these gestures are for me a lot better than that pill crap that pie introduced which was the worst of both worlds.

Corso Marche

1,723 posts

202 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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AJB88 said:
Had to go back to the old 2 button navigation rather than gesture, I use Firefox, without the back button at bottom there was no way of going back a page when surfing.
Just use the swipe to back from the edge of the screen.
It definitely works in Firefox.

AJB88

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12,452 posts

172 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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Maybe mine wasn't set up correctly.

TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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Still on the fence about the gestures after a couple of days use. I'm not convinced this is more efficient than the old 3 buttons system although it does free up some screen real estate but not as much as I thought - still not comparable with the iPhone I used in that respect although that's probably because it has a notch so that area is used for the notifications, freeing up a bit more room. I'll stick with it for a while longer and see what I think in a week or so.

AJB88

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Thursday 5th September 2019
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Switched back to gestures and found out how to go back! will give it a go again, can see it being a right pain after a few beers though haha.

TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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May it may not have anything to do with it but my screens started flashing when it's in standby on occasion. I hope it doesn't die before I get my upgrade around black Friday / xmas

AJB88

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Thursday 5th September 2019
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Mine started doing this on Android 9 the other week, quickly flashing when opening Google Photos etc. I'm waiting for the Pixel 4.

TameRacingDriver

18,094 posts

273 months

Thursday 5th September 2019
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AJB88 said:
Mine started doing this on Android 9 the other week, quickly flashing when opening Google Photos etc. I'm waiting for the Pixel 4.
Let's hope our phones can last long enough to get some cash for them later this year.

In other news my battery life is now noticeably worse than before. Currently on 26% with 3hr54 SOT. Pretty sure I would have been on about 40% before.

Corso Marche

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202 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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I think the choice of nav options is good for people. You can choose what you're comfortable with/what works for you. Hopefully it doesn't create any legacy issues in the future for new apps and app design etc

Few tips for those trying the gesture nav;
Swipe right on the slider at the bottom of the screen
  • From the homescreen it'll jump back into the most recently used app.
  • From here swipe right on the slider to flick back through your apps one at a time. Or left to flick back through them in the opposite direction.
  • It also allows for very quick switching between apps (just like double tapping the recent apps button does on 3-button nav.) Just flick right when in-app and it'll flick between whatever two apps you're currently using.
Homescreen 'swipe up and hold';
  • This doesn't have to be as deliberate as you may think. The tiniest tap whilst swiping upwards will slide in the recent apps switcher. Takes some practice, but becomes second nature after a bit.
  • Swipe up and then to the right in one movement. Again, the movement can be quite slight. Swiping up and to the right feels natural as if you're dragging in the app switcher. An immediate second swipe to the right has you scrolling through your recent apps. It feels perfectly fluid, and this is what I've adopted if I want to enter the recent apps list.
Try it -- swipe up and to the right in one movement, and then flick right again.

Swipe to back;
  • Honestly, after using this it's hard to go back to the back button. It does work beautifully, and simply. It doesn't matter if my phone is in my right hand or left hand, or being held with two hands, or resting on a desk/table. A swipe from anywhere on the edge goes back. It's so much more versatile. When using my older 6P now it feels as if I have to reach further and make a conscious decision to hit the back button exactly where it is, rather than anywhere along either vertical edge. It sounds ridiculous after nigh-on a decade of android use, but it does make nav using 'Back' easier, quicker, and more natural.
Gesture nav may not be for everybody, but I've genuinely surprised myself as I didn't think I'd be moving away from button nav. I'd been using 2-button on my P2XL and 3-button on my 6P. Nav on the 6P now feels more awkward than full-on gesture nav. I never expected it to feel that way!

Edited by Corso Marche on Friday 6th September 05:27