Three UK - 4G Home Broadband - any users here?

Three UK - 4G Home Broadband - any users here?

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V8 Animal

5,927 posts

211 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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mike74 said:
Why not use Smarty?

They use the three network, £18 pcm for unlimited data plus minutes and texts, no contract so can cancel anytime, no issue with it being used in a router for home broadband only.
I use them for my phone £6 pcm no contract, I’m confused how broadband would work, also need a router.
Coverage is excellent here.

Gad-Westy

14,589 posts

214 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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V8 Animal said:
mike74 said:
Why not use Smarty?

They use the three network, £18 pcm for unlimited data plus minutes and texts, no contract so can cancel anytime, no issue with it being used in a router for home broadband only.
I use them for my phone £6 pcm no contract, I’m confused how broadband would work, also need a router.
Coverage is excellent here.
You just install any phone SIM into a 4G router. Doesn't have to be a special contract, just any sim that has a 4G data allowance.

It's worth spending a little extra on the router for something dependable. I (and many other on here) use a Huwaei B818 having unsuccessfully tried various others. The huwaei seems very stable and reliable. Where it gets ever so slightly complicated is that the router needs to be somewhere in your house where it receives a good 4G signal. You can use an external aerial but I found the internal one to be excellent once I've found a good spot. If you have power in your loft, that is quite likely to be a good option as much less masonary in the way of the signal.

To find a good spot, I'd just plug it in to various places in your house with your phone connected to it via wifi and keep doing speed tests until you find the ideal position. If that position isn't great for wifi coverage, you can solve that with a mesh system if need be but I'd always prioritise the 4G signal first and worry about wifi later.

mike74

3,687 posts

133 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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I use a TP Link router and that's excellent at receiving the 4g signal and distributing the WiFi throughout the entire house despite some thick stone walls in between the kitchen where it's located and the bedrooms.

IanA2

2,763 posts

163 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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Gad-Westy said:
V8 Animal said:
mike74 said:
Why not use Smarty?

They use the three network, £18 pcm for unlimited data plus minutes and texts, no contract so can cancel anytime, no issue with it being used in a router for home broadband only.
I use them for my phone £6 pcm no contract, I’m confused how broadband would work, also need a router.
Coverage is excellent here.
You just install any phone SIM into a 4G router. Doesn't have to be a special contract, just any sim that has a 4G data allowance.

It's worth spending a little extra on the router for something dependable. I (and many other on here) use a Huwaei B818 having unsuccessfully tried various others. The huwaei seems very stable and reliable. Where it gets ever so slightly complicated is that the router needs to be somewhere in your house where it receives a good 4G signal. You can use an external aerial but I found the internal one to be excellent once I've found a good spot. If you have power in your loft, that is quite likely to be a good option as much less masonary in the way of the signal.

To find a good spot, I'd just plug it in to various places in your house with your phone connected to it via wifi and keep doing speed tests until you find the ideal position. If that position isn't great for wifi coverage, you can solve that with a mesh system if need be but I'd always prioritise the 4G signal first and worry about wifi later.
Huawei's the way....

V8 Animal

5,927 posts

211 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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Gad-Westy said:
You just install any phone SIM into a 4G router. Doesn't have to be a special contract, just any sim that has a 4G data allowance.

It's worth spending a little extra on the router for something dependable. I (and many other on here) use a Huwaei B818 having unsuccessfully tried various others. The huwaei seems very stable and reliable. Where it gets ever so slightly complicated is that the router needs to be somewhere in your house where it receives a good 4G signal. You can use an external aerial but I found the internal one to be excellent once I've found a good spot. If you have power in your loft, that is quite likely to be a good option as much less masonary in the way of the signal.

To find a good spot, I'd just plug it in to various places in your house with your phone connected to it via wifi and keep doing speed tests until you find the ideal position. If that position isn't great for wifi coverage, you can solve that with a mesh system if need be but I'd always prioritise the 4G signal first and worry about wifi later.
Ok so what GB should a average house use just 2 of us guess 100 pm would be enough?

mike74

3,687 posts

133 months

Thursday 1st December 2022
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V8 Animal said:
Ok so what GB should a average house use just 2 of us guess 100 pm would be enough?
Doesn't matter if its unlimited (unless you REALLY take the piss)

Jenny Tailor

1,727 posts

38 months

Sunday 11th December 2022
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What's the best current flavour of 4G router to get these days. I'm guessing Huawei.

A friend of Jenny's has a good 4G signal at home. ( 130mb down and 30mb up - on an iPhone 13 Pro Max ).
There is no 5G available.

Can anyone link to an unlocked router in Amazon there are various models anf flavours... - that I can just send her a link - and say "Buy this one".


Edit - and I have to connect it to 6 gaming devices.

So is that a bridge/ switch? Again - recommendation with a link.
And ethernet cables. Existing ones are cat 5.


Many thanks
J.

Edited by Jenny Tailor on Sunday 11th December 17:10

Blown2CV

28,914 posts

204 months

Sunday 11th December 2022
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130mbps on 4G?? Is the mast in their garden??

mmm-five

11,264 posts

285 months

Sunday 11th December 2022
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Blown2CV said:
130mbps on 4G?? Is the mast in their garden??
Similar speeds here (closest masts are 250m away), and 5G is a bit faster. Have an unlimited plan so use it as backup if/when Virgin 1Gig goes down biggrin

4G



5G

Murph7355

37,768 posts

257 months

Sunday 11th December 2022
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Blown2CV said:
130mbps on 4G?? Is the mast in their garden??
I get 80-100mbps down at the moment out in the sticks. The mast isn't line of sight - I actually think it's a couple of hills away and a good mile or two.

(Only get 5-7mbps up at the moment).

Murph7355

37,768 posts

257 months

Sunday 11th December 2022
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V8 Animal said:
Ok so what GB should a average house use just 2 of us guess 100 pm would be enough?
We use 14Gb per day on average (that's over a 650 day period).

2 of us working from home pretty much every day, 2 kids who use YouTube and Google classrooms a fair bit, and plenty of streaming programmes.


geeks

9,207 posts

140 months

Sunday 11th December 2022
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Blown2CV said:
130mbps on 4G?? Is the mast in their garden??
Couple of miles away

S6PNJ

5,185 posts

282 months

Thursday 16th March 2023
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My (elderly) father has a ZTE - Mf286d with Three (3) mobile internet. It's giving him a few issues which I think are down to signal strength. I believe the modem has SMA connectors for an external aerial. What's the latest and greatest (budget) aerial offering? Using cellmapper, there's pretty much only one mast he can connect to, or is within the signal coverage for, so would a directional aerial be better than an omni in this situation? His strength tonight is -104dBm which gives him 3 of 5 bars on the modem but he's only connecting at 1-3Mbps whereas he has got over 30Mbps in the past.

The aerial would be likely to be situated in his loft, rather than actually external - though it could be externally mounted with some extra effort (he's miles away from me, so it would need a visit from me to sort - plus I'd need suitable access equipment etc).

Any thoughts as to suitable aerials? I'm happy to buy from AliExpress.

FunkyGibbon

3,786 posts

265 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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S6PNJ said:
My (elderly) father has a ZTE - Mf286d with Three (3) mobile internet. It's giving him a few issues which I think are down to signal strength. I believe the modem has SMA connectors for an external aerial. What's the latest and greatest (budget) aerial offering? Using cellmapper, there's pretty much only one mast he can connect to, or is within the signal coverage for, so would a directional aerial be better than an omni in this situation? His strength tonight is -104dBm which gives him 3 of 5 bars on the modem but he's only connecting at 1-3Mbps whereas he has got over 30Mbps in the past.

The aerial would be likely to be situated in his loft, rather than actually external - though it could be externally mounted with some extra effort (he's miles away from me, so it would need a visit from me to sort - plus I'd need suitable access equipment etc).

Any thoughts as to suitable aerials? I'm happy to buy from AliExpress.
I my experience living in the relative middle of nowhere with limited cell towers to chose from external aerial made little difference for me. I (and others on here) found the best solution to be upgrade the 4G router to Huawei B818 - if you can find one.

S6PNJ

5,185 posts

282 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Cheers, I had a B818 a few years ago - even with that in my area (not where my father is) I couldn't get an improved / decent signal. I've advised him to try an omni and see how her gets on, if all else fails, I'll just shift it on to someone else via the usual places.

James6112

4,423 posts

29 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Interesting thread

My Virgin BB comes up for renewal soon. Bound to be a price hike. My Openreach line is rubbish. No other fibre to the house in my road.

So 4g/5g will be a good alternative to switch at a reasonable cost.

My current mobile signal isn’t great.

Will see if any friends/neighbours have 3, to test the signal here!

NDA

21,641 posts

226 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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James6112 said:
My current mobile signal isn’t great.
If you can find a router that can take an external antenna, that could solve the signal issue.

Murph7355

37,768 posts

257 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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James6112 said:
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Will see if any friends/neighbours have 3, to test the signal here!
Just buy some cheap pay as you go sims from each provider, and try each.


beko1987

1,637 posts

135 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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My 4g connection has remained rock solid for the last few years now but I'm struggling with the hardware. I have a pihole running, and the huawei B535 does not allow the user to set another DNS address. There's a hack to unlock the hidden fields on the page and set there, but the change never saves.

Got around that by setting up another wireless ap on the network, with it's own DHCP server as it has to have in order to not just use the Huawei routers settings. This has created a split in my network, with 2 IP address ranges... Wasn't much of an issue until this year when I started playing with Home Assistant, and now it's a bit of a pain. No way I've found to put the B535 into dumb/modem mode either.

Been researching alternative 4g routers but it's such a minefield, I want to get something modern and decent with (is it LTE12) modern 4g support, not a 7 year old router that's still being flogged today. Or I sack the whole thing off and try ADSL again, or fibre, but both seem a bit silly when im happy with the price and service from 3, it's just the crap hardware! Any suggestions on kit that isn't huawei/ZTE, and allows the user to set a DNS server, and takes a 3 sim card?

megaphone

10,765 posts

252 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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beko1987 said:
My 4g connection has remained rock solid for the last few years now but I'm struggling with the hardware. I have a pihole running, and the huawei B535 does not allow the user to set another DNS address. There's a hack to unlock the hidden fields on the page and set there, but the change never saves.

Got around that by setting up another wireless ap on the network, with it's own DHCP server as it has to have in order to not just use the Huawei routers settings. This has created a split in my network, with 2 IP address ranges... Wasn't much of an issue until this year when I started playing with Home Assistant, and now it's a bit of a pain. No way I've found to put the B535 into dumb/modem mode either.

Been researching alternative 4g routers but it's such a minefield, I want to get something modern and decent with (is it LTE12) modern 4g support, not a 7 year old router that's still being flogged today. Or I sack the whole thing off and try ADSL again, or fibre, but both seem a bit silly when im happy with the price and service from 3, it's just the crap hardware! Any suggestions on kit that isn't huawei/ZTE, and allows the user to set a DNS server, and takes a 3 sim card?
Can you stick the B535 into modem or bridge mode? Then just get a router that lets you do what you need.