I do not ****ing want Amazon ****ing Prime !

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Derek Smith said:

I like Prime. I don't know whether I should apologise or not. But it works for me.

I've got a job that takes up a fair bit of time; babysitting. It means that I cannot necessarily predict when I'll be in. I buy a fair bit through Amazon and was pestering neighbours to take in deliveries. I now can have it put in lockers on a day of my choosing, more or less. This is revolutionary.

Lockers are often full, and also cannot take large items.

On the other hand eBay orders can be send to argos, including the many argos's within Sainsbury's. And you are not paying £70 or so for the privilege, and may cost less

Same with John Lewis and pickups from Waitrose, or other shops and the likes of doddle

It's why Amazon is pushing Prime so hard, rather than customers begging for it themselves. humans are creatures of habit, get them hooked into prime, even if it's through dodgy means!

[bad company]

I’m getting towards the end of my free Prime membership. I’ve had a couple of free deliveries, backed up my photos (though they back up on Apple anyway) and tried the music which was disappointing as much of it costs extra.

It clearly works for many but I’ll cancel.

[Zirconia]

bad company said:

I’m getting towards the end of my free Prime membership. I’ve had a couple of free deliveries, backed up my photos (though they back up on Apple anyway) and tried the music which was disappointing as much of it costs extra.

It clearly works for many but I’ll cancel.

I hope you have a backup in many places for the photos.

[MB140]

I don’t think anyone on here is arguing that amazon prime isn’t a great service and value for money if you want it.

What people like the OP and myself are objecting to is the sneaky way they are trying to get people to accidentally sign up to prime by making the prime button stand out like a sore thumb but blending the no thanks to prime option as a plain link. Make them both the same. Then there is no bias.

[Durzel]

Amazon Prime (as in the movies etc) is crapola compared to Netflix. Having to pay extra for stuff on there is just non-sensical.

But Prime delivery is lit af as the kids say. I buy all sorts of crap on there because I'm too bad at planning what I want, with Amazon I decide I want something, log on and can get it the next day for free, if not the same day in some cases. If what turns up is crap I can return it with no hassle at all.

I support the high street where they add value to a purchase, but I'll be damned if I'm paying £100+ more for the exact thing from some random shop when I'm not likely to go back there for any other reason.

[anonymous-user]

There is a lot of st on there, the marketplace for one, with zero comeback.

[Zirconia]

Thesprucegoose said:

There is a lot of st on there, the marketplace for one, with zero comeback.

Loads of fake reviews and knock offs as well.

[bad company]

Zirconia said:

bad company said:

I’m getting towards the end of my free Prime membership. I’ve had a couple of free deliveries, backed up my photos (though they back up on Apple anyway) and tried the music which was disappointing as much of it costs extra.

It clearly works for many but I’ll cancel.

I hope you have a backup in many places for the photos.

I back up to my home computer and iCloud. Don’t you think that’s enough?

[Zirconia]

bad company said:

I back up to my home computer and iCloud. Don’t you think that’s enough?

Read it to read a single place of backup.

[bad company]

I’ve waited in for an Amazon delivery which hasn’t arrived. Apparently they ‘attempted delivery’ but I was here.

[F1GTRUeno]

MB140 said:

I don’t think anyone on here is arguing that amazon prime isn’t a great service and value for money if you want it.

What people like the OP and myself are objecting to is the sneaky way they are trying to get people to accidentally sign up to prime by making the prime button stand out like a sore thumb but blending the no thanks to prime option as a plain link. Make them both the same. Then there is no bias.

Or you could wise the fk up and learn to use the internet properly.

it's not hard not to sign up for things if you actually know what you're doing.

Yes of course they prey on people being stupid enough not to but the fact is they wouldn't if people WEREN'T stupid enough to fall for it.

We're really not that evolved as a species that we can't avoid the shiny button and take a second to review what we're doing and that's a sad indictment on human psychology.

Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 9th August 02:01

[MB140]

F1GTRUeno said:

MB140 said:

I don’t think anyone on here is arguing that amazon prime isn’t a great service and value for money if you want it.

What people like the OP and myself are objecting to is the sneaky way they are trying to get people to accidentally sign up to prime by making the prime button stand out like a sore thumb but blending the no thanks to prime option as a plain link. Make them both the same. Then there is no bias.

Or you could wise the fk up and learn to use the internet properly.

it's not hard not to sign up for things if you actually know what you're doing.

As someone who studied web design as part of my degree learning the likes of HTML, CSS, Apache, SQL and then spending 5 years programming in Jovial, ada, and Visual Basic for military datalink systems and air traffic control then learning to use the internet correctly isn’t my problem.

I suggest reading up on Neilson, he writes some very interesting papers on web design and how to make web page interfaces optimal and compliant with accessibility laws. Unfortunately I don’t have access to all his papers since I no longer study but here is a very simple example. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t state anywhere it’s good to try and con people in to signing up by making one option more prevalent than another. In fact I would imagine with modern disability laws on people with poor vision it could be borderline illegal if challenged (although I am sure amazon lawyers and web designers will make sure they are just skating in the correct side of the law).

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/usability-101-int...

[ging84]

F1GTRUeno said:

Or you could wise the fk up and learn to use the internet properly.

it's not hard not to sign up for things if you actually know what you're doing.

Yes of course they prey on people being stupid enough not to but the fact is they wouldn't if people WEREN'T stupid enough to fall for it.

We're really not that evolved as a species that we can't avoid the shiny button and take a second to review what we're doing and that's a sad indictment on human psychology.

You dig up a 2 week old thread just to repeat the same argument that's already been had?
Is there a shortage of bridges where you come from?

[tangerine_sedge]

F1GTRUeno said:

MB140 said:

I don’t think anyone on here is arguing that amazon prime isn’t a great service and value for money if you want it.

What people like the OP and myself are objecting to is the sneaky way they are trying to get people to accidentally sign up to prime by making the prime button stand out like a sore thumb but blending the no thanks to prime option as a plain link. Make them both the same. Then there is no bias.

Or you could wise the fk up and learn to use the internet properly.

it's not hard not to sign up for things if you actually know what you're doing.

Yes of course they prey on people being stupid enough not to but the fact is they wouldn't if people WEREN'T stupid enough to fall for it.

We're really not that evolved as a species that we can't avoid the shiny button and take a second to review what we're doing and that's a sad indictment on human psychology.

Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 9th August 02:01

With all due respect - fk off troll.

I've got 40 years IT experience and I've never seen a user interface so carefully designed to trick you into making the wrong selection. Not even Lotus Notes was that st.

[bad company]

tangerine_sedge said:

With all due respect - fk off troll.

I've got 40 years IT experience and I've never seen a user interface so carefully designed to trick you into making the wrong selection. Not even Lotus Notes was that st.

Exactly that, it’s designed to deceive. Still I benefited from my free month then left.

[ST565NP]

bad company said:

tangerine_sedge said:

With all due respect - fk off troll.

I've got 40 years IT experience and I've never seen a user interface so carefully designed to trick you into making the wrong selection. Not even Lotus Notes was that st.

Exactly that, it’s designed to deceive. Still I benefited from my free month then left.

Also, if you want to leave, you must contact customer service. You can not do it by yourself !

[bad company]

ST565NP said:

bad company said:

tangerine_sedge said:

With all due respect - fk off troll.

I've got 40 years IT experience and I've never seen a user interface so carefully designed to trick you into making the wrong selection. Not even Lotus Notes was that st.

Exactly that, it’s designed to deceive. Still I benefited from my free month then left.

Also, if you want to leave, you must contact customer service. You can not do it by yourself !

Maybe that’s changed. I was able to cancel Prime online.

[anonymous-user]

tangerine_sedge said:

With all due respect - fk off troll.

I've got 40 years IT experience and I've never seen a user interface so carefully designed to trick you into making the wrong selection. Not even Lotus Notes was that st.

You see, now I have to question your IT expertise ;-D

[Derek Smith]

I've just bought an item via Amazon. Good price; 22% cheaper than I could see it elsewhere. One relief was that it was just big enough to go in the local Amazon locker I normally use for goods. Next day delivery via Prime.

Got an email to say that it was too large for the box and it will be delivered to my house. I was out and about most of the morning and had a lunch out booked, so would not be able to take it in. My porch is exposed to passers by, so I left the garage unlocked and asked for the item to be placed in it. It was one of their tick box options, so what could go wrong.

Returned at 2.30 to find a dirty great box, large enough to contain another three such items, on the porch, in full view as I parked in my drive. I went online to find that the parcel had been delivered to me in person.

I'm going to complain tomorrow and I'll add the result to this thread.

[F1GTRUeno]

tangerine_sedge said:

F1GTRUeno said:

MB140 said:

I don’t think anyone on here is arguing that amazon prime isn’t a great service and value for money if you want it.

What people like the OP and myself are objecting to is the sneaky way they are trying to get people to accidentally sign up to prime by making the prime button stand out like a sore thumb but blending the no thanks to prime option as a plain link. Make them both the same. Then there is no bias.

Or you could wise the fk up and learn to use the internet properly.

it's not hard not to sign up for things if you actually know what you're doing.

Yes of course they prey on people being stupid enough not to but the fact is they wouldn't if people WEREN'T stupid enough to fall for it.

We're really not that evolved as a species that we can't avoid the shiny button and take a second to review what we're doing and that's a sad indictment on human psychology.

Edited by F1GTRUeno on Friday 9th August 02:01

With all due respect - fk off troll.

I've got 40 years IT experience and I've never seen a user interface so carefully designed to trick you into making the wrong selection. Not even Lotus Notes was that st.

With absolutely no due respect - 40 years of st experience then isn't it?

I fully admit they design the page exactly as it is because they know most people won't take notice and they'll click the shiny button but if you're saying you've 40 years of experience and you're not trained enough to take a second to look at the page and work out which button does what then what the fk were you doing with your life?

I'm not trolling, I'm being deadly serious. it takes all of a nanosecond to size up the page and work out what does what, especially if you're careful enough with your browsing anyway. If you're not in a frenzy of buying or you're not completely adsent minded when you're paying for things then you'd notice what said what and would never accidentally sign up for anything. They give you enough pages between the page the product is on to the purchase finally going through for you to have warning and take everything in.

It's the same as unchecking the boxes for all the additional ste that they tack onto programs you install and then people wonder why they've got a desktop and computer filled to the brim with ste that they didn't even know they had.

Amazon rely on people never checking and taking a second to go 'er, hang on' and then they've got all the legal recourse in the world when you suddenly turn around and go 'BUT I DIDN'T WANT IT' because it's your fking fault for falling for it, not their fault for knowing humans are stupid enough to fall for it.

And that goes for everyone whether they've never heard of the internet or they're writing fking artificial intelligence. You don't have to know how to code or set servers up or anything to be clever enough not to fall for easy tricks when online shopping do you?

Edited by F1GTRUeno on Saturday 10th August 00:36

Edited by F1GTRUeno on Saturday 10th August 00:37