Win98 Post IE6SP1 Install Proxy Problem....

Win98 Post IE6SP1 Install Proxy Problem....

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GregE240

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Tuesday 31st May 2005
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Can't work out this one....

Win98SE machine, connecting to ISA2004 proxy for Web Access.

Installed IE6SP1. Installed okay. Rebooted. Now, it seems, for every single webpage you need to enter the ISA credentials (that is, DOMAIN/userid and password).

So, for example:

When you first open up Internet Explorer the password box appears;
Fill in the details and press OK and the password box appears again, with only the password removed;
Press cancel and the empty password box appears for the next page;
Fill in the the details and press OK.
Type in a web site and the password box appears again , with only the password removed.

All I can think of is something like AutoComplete is switched off, and not caching the password. I've not yet tried this, but can anyone think of anything else I might have overlooked?

Greg

Podie

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Tuesday 31st May 2005
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Bit rusty on 98 these days... you sure a "feature" of SP1 wasn't that it removed all login / password details...?

Podie

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Tuesday 31st May 2005
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Could be a cookie issue..?

Is the domain name only two or three letters..? Seem to recall this was an issue...

GregE240

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Tuesday 31st May 2005
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The NetBIOS name of the domain is 4 letters, if that helps?

All I can think of is AutoComplete messing things up, but I can't get in front of the machine at the moment as its on another site....

Podie

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Tuesday 31st May 2005
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Not convinced it's autocomplete.. surely it's more likely to be a security option turned on somewhere..?

BliarOut

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Tuesday 31st May 2005
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Could it be an issue with blank passwords? I know they are clamping down on this with the various SP's.

GregE240

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Tuesday 31st May 2005
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Its not blank passwords. The domain policy states at least 8 characters, and complex.

All I've found is this: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290684

...which seems to fix more than just Outlook....

Greg

BliarOut

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GregE240

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Tuesday 31st May 2005
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No, its not that, but good link.

Its just Win98SE with IE6 SP1, all other O/Ss are fine....

Greg

BliarOut

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Tuesday 31st May 2005
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http://forums.isaserver.org/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=35;t=000125

If they can't solve it there I doubt anyone can

GregE240

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Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Rob, cheers mate, but its only Win98 thats affected by this, all other O/S are fine (including Mac users).

Still puzzled.

BliarOut

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Wednesday 1st June 2005
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You may have to select "Allow non-encrypted Firewall client connections" in "Configuration", "General", "Define Firewall client
Settings".

Win98 and NT4 hosts typically require this setting.


Also, are your 98 clients using the DS update?

malman

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Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Didn't 98 do something similar with dialup and outlook express mail passwords? Can't remember if it was related to IE that caused this. Vaguely remember reg hack to fix it.

I've also had a problem with using netbios names for sites when they cantain "_" in them. IE/IIS loses the session ID and keeps asking you to login to every page. Can't remember specific versions (sorry)

GregE240

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BliarOut said:
You may have to select "Allow non-encrypted Firewall client connections" in "Configuration", "General", "Define Firewall client
Settings".

Win98 and NT4 hosts typically require this setting.


Also, are your 98 clients using the DS update?
Rob,

2 questions: where is the first part configured? On the ISA Server?

Secondly, the 98 clients (AFAIK) aren't using DS client, they just get their IP address with proxy details, go to a web page and are asked for credentials. Post SP1 on IE6, it doesn't seem to be caching them.

Greg

BliarOut

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Wednesday 1st June 2005
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First part is configured on the ISA server....

I'm just pondering on the client bit.... There are the issues of which downlevel clients are supported on 2K3 server (I don't know what ISA is sat on) I would be inclined to try one 98 MC with the DS client to see if that helps after making the ISA mod...

GregE240

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Wednesday 1st June 2005
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ISA is sat on W2K03.

Its looking like trying the DS client...isn't it?

Hmmm....

BliarOut

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Wednesday 1st June 2005
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GregE240 said:
ISA is sat on W2K03.

Its looking like trying the DS client...isn't it?

Hmmm....



I would definately give the DS client a go. Sounds like a LM Auth/SMB signing type issue. You might need to tweak the domain security policy too.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555038

>> Edited by BliarOut on Wednesday 1st June 13:39

GregE240

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Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Just strange that it works pre SP1 being installed for IE6, then breaks once you install it....

BliarOut

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Wednesday 1st June 2005
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GregE240 said:
Just strange that it works pre SP1 being installed for IE6, then breaks once you install it....


That's ther beauty of service packs

If it just worked, we'd all be out of a job

GregE240

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Wednesday 1st June 2005
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Rob, just an aside, but is the ISA Server 2004 Firewall Client downloadable? Can't see it anywhere.