Iphone 11, or One Plus 7T pro (or other Android)?
Discussion
I am currently on an iPhone 7. I want to get something with a better camera. I am only really interested in an amazing camera and great battery life
I am told that most apps will transfer over, but once like banking etc I’ll need to call my bank etc to let them know. I assume there will be some new verification process.
I am prepared for a little bit of drama, but would like to hear about anyone who has made the change from Apple.
I was thinking of the One Plus 7T pro, but also the Google Pixel 4 (when it comes out), or the Samsung S10. It would be easier to stick with Apple
Views much appreciated
Ta
I am told that most apps will transfer over, but once like banking etc I’ll need to call my bank etc to let them know. I assume there will be some new verification process.
I am prepared for a little bit of drama, but would like to hear about anyone who has made the change from Apple.
I was thinking of the One Plus 7T pro, but also the Google Pixel 4 (when it comes out), or the Samsung S10. It would be easier to stick with Apple
Views much appreciated
Ta
All possible to switch but I'd make sure that *everything* Apple-centric is sorted out with an alternative before you do.
iCloud, iMessage, iTunes, photos/backup, calendars, notes, reminders, contact sync, etc. If you have things you do on Apple services with other family members (we have family photos in iCloud, for example), figure out what you'll use instead and migrate everyone to that first. Any apps you've bought will have to be bought again on Android.
It can be anything from a very straightforward transition to a complete nightmare depending on how heavily you rely on the things Apple provides.
The iPhone 11 camera is great and the backup/restore process from an older iPhone is very easy, so IMO you'd have to have something really compelling to want to switch.
iCloud, iMessage, iTunes, photos/backup, calendars, notes, reminders, contact sync, etc. If you have things you do on Apple services with other family members (we have family photos in iCloud, for example), figure out what you'll use instead and migrate everyone to that first. Any apps you've bought will have to be bought again on Android.
It can be anything from a very straightforward transition to a complete nightmare depending on how heavily you rely on the things Apple provides.
The iPhone 11 camera is great and the backup/restore process from an older iPhone is very easy, so IMO you'd have to have something really compelling to want to switch.
sjg said:
All possible to switch but I'd make sure that *everything* Apple-centric is sorted out with an alternative before you do.
iCloud, iMessage, iTunes, photos/backup, calendars, notes, reminders, contact sync, etc. If you have things you do on Apple services with other family members (we have family photos in iCloud, for example), figure out what you'll use instead and migrate everyone to that first. Any apps you've bought will have to be bought again on Android.
It can be anything from a very straightforward transition to a complete nightmare depending on how heavily you rely on the things Apple provides.
The iPhone 11 camera is great and the backup/restore process from an older iPhone is very easy, so IMO you'd have to have something really compelling to want to switch.
Thanks for that, given me lots to think aboutiCloud, iMessage, iTunes, photos/backup, calendars, notes, reminders, contact sync, etc. If you have things you do on Apple services with other family members (we have family photos in iCloud, for example), figure out what you'll use instead and migrate everyone to that first. Any apps you've bought will have to be bought again on Android.
It can be anything from a very straightforward transition to a complete nightmare depending on how heavily you rely on the things Apple provides.
The iPhone 11 camera is great and the backup/restore process from an older iPhone is very easy, so IMO you'd have to have something really compelling to want to switch.
I use the google photos app for all my picture storage, so don’t need to rely on icloud and pay for extra storage. I also use Spotify and not Apple music.
If money isn't an object then probably a Pixel 4 as long as the release tomorrow and subsequent reviews are good. I had a play with the older Oneplus 7 Pro in John Lewis today and it was a lovely hardware device.
My biases, current happy Oneplus 6T user, considering Pixel 4xl, Oneplus 7T and 7T pro. 6T will be handed down to family member. Oxygen OS is great and maybe slightly better than stock android. Not an Apple hater as we all use Macs in our family but I think Android is just less restrictive and better, for me at least.
My biases, current happy Oneplus 6T user, considering Pixel 4xl, Oneplus 7T and 7T pro. 6T will be handed down to family member. Oxygen OS is great and maybe slightly better than stock android. Not an Apple hater as we all use Macs in our family but I think Android is just less restrictive and better, for me at least.
cb31 said:
If money isn't an object then probably a Pixel 4 as long as the release tomorrow and subsequent reviews are good. I had a play with the older Oneplus 7 Pro in John Lewis today and it was a lovely hardware device.
My biases, current happy Oneplus 6T user, considering Pixel 4xl, Oneplus 7T and 7T pro. 6T will be handed down to family member. Oxygen OS is great and maybe slightly better than stock android. Not an Apple hater as we all use Macs in our family but I think Android is just less restrictive and better, for me at least.
Thank you all for the tips. The Google Pixel 4 was my other android choice, but was only thinking of the One Plus because of the price. In reality is the Google worth the extra £300 or so? My biases, current happy Oneplus 6T user, considering Pixel 4xl, Oneplus 7T and 7T pro. 6T will be handed down to family member. Oxygen OS is great and maybe slightly better than stock android. Not an Apple hater as we all use Macs in our family but I think Android is just less restrictive and better, for me at least.
Thanks again
I was in the same boat, an iphone 7 that was alright but battery performance was shocking after 2 years of ownership. I ended up going for samsung galaxy s10e, similar size but edge to edge screen, amazing camera, particularly the fish eye lens mode. I'm still getting used to it but they throw in a special cable adapter that allows you to hook it up to the iphone direct and drag everything over in a matter of minutes, photos, contacts, apps, even messages
Chuffed with it so far. Facial recognition and smart unlocking (allowing you to keep the phone unlocked in set places like work or home etc) are two good features the iphone 7 didn't have.
There isn't much out there that isn't the size of a coffee table now, and as I loathe using 2 hands on a phone. The s10e is the perfect size.
Chuffed with it so far. Facial recognition and smart unlocking (allowing you to keep the phone unlocked in set places like work or home etc) are two good features the iphone 7 didn't have.
There isn't much out there that isn't the size of a coffee table now, and as I loathe using 2 hands on a phone. The s10e is the perfect size.
OnePlus are not known especially for their cameras, so given your requirement is to have an "amazing" camera, I'd steer clear of those.
Having tried a few Android devices from Samsung (Galaxy S8), Huawei (P20 Pro) and Google (Pixel 2), the Pixel has the best results from the camera. The others take great photos in some conditions but the Pixel has the most consistently great photos.
I'd suggest looking at the 3a or 3a XL rather than the latest Pixel 4. You get the same camera for about half the price.
Having tried a few Android devices from Samsung (Galaxy S8), Huawei (P20 Pro) and Google (Pixel 2), the Pixel has the best results from the camera. The others take great photos in some conditions but the Pixel has the most consistently great photos.
I'd suggest looking at the 3a or 3a XL rather than the latest Pixel 4. You get the same camera for about half the price.
Pixel 2 XL owner here. The only thing that has been good about the pixel for me is camera and battery life and even then the latter has seriously tanked with the android 10 update and because the phone is getting on a bit.
The rest of the phone has been poor to mediocre. The OS is buggy and unfinished and has been like that in various states of repair since I got it. The android ecosystem is also nowhere near as good or resolved as Apple’s.
New Pixels are due out today but you should instantly rule out the standard 4 as the battery is rumoured to be a pathetic 2800 mah cell and even though this often works fine on an Apple device, these are nowhere near as optimised so you shouldn’t expect the same battery performance.
The camera on the 4 is unknown but at this point in time the iPhone 11 Pro is taking the crown for best camera. The image quality is now up there with the Pixel and the video recording is enormously better on the iPhone.
I’m borrowing an iPhone XR at the moment and if you can live with it’s minor restrictions then overall it’s much slicker and more polished to use with better quality apps and far less bugs and rough edges. I’m probably going to migrate over for the first time in years as Android 10 seems to be taking lessons from Microsoft with their 10 release to see how buggy and unpleasant they can make it.
Obviously my comments will trigger a few fanboys but I’m not brand loyal and am just saying it as I see it.
The rest of the phone has been poor to mediocre. The OS is buggy and unfinished and has been like that in various states of repair since I got it. The android ecosystem is also nowhere near as good or resolved as Apple’s.
New Pixels are due out today but you should instantly rule out the standard 4 as the battery is rumoured to be a pathetic 2800 mah cell and even though this often works fine on an Apple device, these are nowhere near as optimised so you shouldn’t expect the same battery performance.
The camera on the 4 is unknown but at this point in time the iPhone 11 Pro is taking the crown for best camera. The image quality is now up there with the Pixel and the video recording is enormously better on the iPhone.
I’m borrowing an iPhone XR at the moment and if you can live with it’s minor restrictions then overall it’s much slicker and more polished to use with better quality apps and far less bugs and rough edges. I’m probably going to migrate over for the first time in years as Android 10 seems to be taking lessons from Microsoft with their 10 release to see how buggy and unpleasant they can make it.
Obviously my comments will trigger a few fanboys but I’m not brand loyal and am just saying it as I see it.
TameRacingDriver said:
Pixel 2 XL owner here. The only thing that has been good about the pixel for me is camera and battery life and even then the latter has seriously tanked with the android 10 update and because the phone is getting on a bit.
The rest of the phone has been poor to mediocre. The OS is buggy and unfinished and has been like that in various states of repair since I got it. The android ecosystem is also nowhere near as good or resolved as Apple’s.
New Pixels are due out today but you should instantly rule out the standard 4 as the battery is rumoured to be a pathetic 2800 mah cell and even though this often works fine on an Apple device, these are nowhere near as optimised so you shouldn’t expect the same battery performance.
The camera on the 4 is unknown but at this point in time the iPhone 11 Pro is taking the crown for best camera. The image quality is now up there with the Pixel and the video recording is enormously better on the iPhone.
I’m borrowing an iPhone XR at the moment and if you can live with it’s minor restrictions then overall it’s much slicker and more polished to use with better quality apps and far less bugs and rough edges. I’m probably going to migrate over for the first time in years as Android 10 seems to be taking lessons from Microsoft with their 10 release to see how buggy and unpleasant they can make it.
Obviously my comments will trigger a few fanboys but I’m not brand loyal and am just saying it as I see it.
I disagree completely, the OS hasn't been buggy at all really, not like Android used to be. 99% of stock Android apps work perfectly. The rest of the phone has been poor to mediocre. The OS is buggy and unfinished and has been like that in various states of repair since I got it. The android ecosystem is also nowhere near as good or resolved as Apple’s.
New Pixels are due out today but you should instantly rule out the standard 4 as the battery is rumoured to be a pathetic 2800 mah cell and even though this often works fine on an Apple device, these are nowhere near as optimised so you shouldn’t expect the same battery performance.
The camera on the 4 is unknown but at this point in time the iPhone 11 Pro is taking the crown for best camera. The image quality is now up there with the Pixel and the video recording is enormously better on the iPhone.
I’m borrowing an iPhone XR at the moment and if you can live with it’s minor restrictions then overall it’s much slicker and more polished to use with better quality apps and far less bugs and rough edges. I’m probably going to migrate over for the first time in years as Android 10 seems to be taking lessons from Microsoft with their 10 release to see how buggy and unpleasant they can make it.
Obviously my comments will trigger a few fanboys but I’m not brand loyal and am just saying it as I see it.
What tends to let it down are apps that aren't Google being buggy, that's out of Google's hands. Just like it would be out of Apple's hands.
My Pixel XL 2 has been spot on, The Android 10 update does seem to have affected battery life a little bit but its a 2 year old phone now thats hammered everyday.
Pixel/Google One Android is a lot more stable than say Samsung or HTC etc, its the closest your going to get to iOS
AJB88 said:
I disagree completely, the OS hasn't been buggy at all really, not like Android used to be. 99% of stock Android apps work perfectly.
What tends to let it down are apps that aren't Google being buggy, that's out of Google's hands. Just like it would be out of Apple's hands.
My Pixel XL 2 has been spot on, The Android 10 update does seem to have affected battery life a little bit but its a 2 year old phone now thats hammered everyday.
Pixel/Google One Android is a lot more stable than say Samsung or HTC etc, its the closest your going to get to iOS
Not for you maybe, but for me, it has been poor, barely a day has gone by without some fault. Granted, they are pretty minor, but when it happens every day, you get a bit tired of it in all honesty. There hasn’t been a single aspect of this phone that hasn’t had some kind of issue at some point during ownership; stuff like Bluetooth acting up, phone charging really slowly in cold conditions (absolutely hopeless in winter), camera crashing or not saving pictures, and its latest party trick is the random rebooting I’m now experiencing.What tends to let it down are apps that aren't Google being buggy, that's out of Google's hands. Just like it would be out of Apple's hands.
My Pixel XL 2 has been spot on, The Android 10 update does seem to have affected battery life a little bit but its a 2 year old phone now thats hammered everyday.
Pixel/Google One Android is a lot more stable than say Samsung or HTC etc, its the closest your going to get to iOS
While its important to stress that it’s not been a completely terrible phone, it has been a frustrating one. And your line is the same one I constantly get fed, that you have no issues whatsoever. I find it hard to believe to be honest, but I can’t disprove it so I won’t go there. I guess its like people who have no problems with Windows 10 whatsoever; really?!
Android 10 has been the update to finish off my phone. The random reboots started soon after, the battery life is poor, the dark mode is horrid, the gestures are half baked. It’s all just really amateurish stuff from Google.
Believe me, I really wanted to go all in with Google with their devices and ecosystem, but its a disaster. I had a Pixel C that was also buggy and they stopped supporting it, and the software was poor, a point hammered home when I replaced it with an iPad Pro, which was so much better it’s just not even funny. And now, I’m using an XR, Apple’s budget phone from 2018 and it frankly pisses all over this Pixel 2 (granted a 2017 phone but still) in most ways.
I’m happy you had no problems, but you are lucky, believe me. Naturally due to all the problems I’ve had I’ve spent a lot of time on various forums and the quality control of Google’s devices is shocking. It’s not an accident they aren’t selling. They are expensive, buggy, subpar hardware married to software that never feels finished. Appalling really.
seadragon said:
Thank you all for the tips. The Google Pixel 4 was my other android choice, but was only thinking of the One Plus because of the price. In reality is the Google worth the extra £300 or so?
Thanks again
For the camera? Yes. If the camera performance is even half of what they claim it'll be utterly superb. Oneplus cameras are usually just okay, and not ones to go for if that is a priority. Thanks again
That said, the 11 Pro has an amazing camera too, and will masively outperform the Pixel 4 in terms of video. The battery on the Pixel 4 is too small, definitely go with the XL.
The iPhone will most likley be more polished and more reliable. I've had all the Pixel devices and while I had almost no issues with the 2, I did have issues with the Pixel 3 XL. Haven't yet tried Android 10, but it will probably work okay unless you have weird use cases. For what it's worth, Mr RacingDriver, I never had any issues with Windows 10
It's hard to recommend getting anything other than an iPhone though. You're used to it, migration is easy and while the Pixel 4/4 XL camera will most likley be better for stills, it's not going to do video better. Everything else will be around about the same methinks. Apple have really upped their game since the X, the 7 and * were a bit lackluster, but the X and on have been proper competitors.
leglessAlex said:
It's hard to recommend getting anything other than an iPhone though. You're used to it, migration is easy and while the Pixel 4/4 XL camera will most likley be better for stills, it's not going to do video better. Everything else will be around about the same methinks. Apple have really upped their game since the X, the 7 and * were a bit lackluster, but the X and on have been proper competitors.
BIB, It’s not a given. The Pixel 4 only has a 2x telephoto lens, so no better than the competition, and maddeningly, no ultra-wide. Also I believe I read somewhere they’re still using the same sensors as on the outgoing model, no upgrade there. Additionally, the Deep Fusion chip on the iPhone is still to be enabled which will offer further improvements, and the hardware already appears to be a step above. There is literally no chance that the Pixel will be able to get anywhere near the iPhone Pro for battery life or video recording (as you’ve already stated). Personally, I would go for the OnePlus 7T over the Pixel at this stage. The camera probably won’t be quite as good, but in every other respect, it appears to be superior (lack of FaceID not withstanding).
Another point worth mentioning is apparently Google are axing the free unlimited photo storage as included with the previous models. Pathetic, especially when the two storage choices are only 64/128!
I went from the iPhone X to a Huawei mate 20 pro. It's a brilliant phone, but I did miss my Apple integration with my MacBook. My biggest problem though was the screen with the wrap-around edges. I absolutely hated it; every time I picked it up when watching YouTube or listening to songs it would change track due to accidental presses. I have now got another iPhone! (an 8 plus).
My mate just got an iPhone 11 and it is amazing! The camera is absolutely superb and battery life is really good too. I would get one myself, were it not that I have only had my 8 plus for about 4 months, and I am waiting until next year in the hope Apple finally move over to. USB-C.
Even though I have alternated between android and IOS for years, and my work phone is a Samsung Note, using android for my every-day phone took a bit of getting used to initially, but it's nothing bad at all. I just prefer IOS myself.
All the phones you mention have great cameras, but the iPhone seems to be the pick right now and after looking at the photos I tend to agree, it just seems to produce colour balance and texture contrast that is better than, for instance, my mate 20 pro (which also has an amazing camera).
My mate just got an iPhone 11 and it is amazing! The camera is absolutely superb and battery life is really good too. I would get one myself, were it not that I have only had my 8 plus for about 4 months, and I am waiting until next year in the hope Apple finally move over to. USB-C.
Even though I have alternated between android and IOS for years, and my work phone is a Samsung Note, using android for my every-day phone took a bit of getting used to initially, but it's nothing bad at all. I just prefer IOS myself.
All the phones you mention have great cameras, but the iPhone seems to be the pick right now and after looking at the photos I tend to agree, it just seems to produce colour balance and texture contrast that is better than, for instance, my mate 20 pro (which also has an amazing camera).
TameRacingDriver said:
BIB, It’s not a given. The Pixel 4 only has a 2x telephoto lens, so no better than the competition, and maddeningly, no ultra-wide. Also I believe I read somewhere they’re still using the same sensors as on the outgoing model, no upgrade there. Additionally, the Deep Fusion chip on the iPhone is still to be enabled which will offer further improvements, and the hardware already appears to be a step above. There is literally no chance that the Pixel will be able to get anywhere near the iPhone Pro for battery life or video recording (as you’ve already stated).
Personally, I would go for the OnePlus 7T over the Pixel at this stage. The camera probably won’t be quite as good, but in every other respect, it appears to be superior (lack of FaceID not withstanding).
Another point worth mentioning is apparently Google are axing the free unlimited photo storage as included with the previous models. Pathetic, especially when the two storage choices are only 64/128!
Did you watch the announcement? They showed a photo the milky way which just shouldn't be possible with a sensor that small. If (and I recognise it's a big if) it's actually possible to get that kind of result under 'ordinary' conditions, the iPhone won't have any response. It's not about the specs of the camera anyway, it's all about the software. Of course, I do take your point that it's not a given, but Google has consistently produced better camera software than anyone else. I do understand that given your Pixel history it's unlikely you'd think a slight improvement in stills worth the hassle, but if that's what the OP wants I'd be stunned if the Pixel wasn't the best phone for stills out there. Personally, I would go for the OnePlus 7T over the Pixel at this stage. The camera probably won’t be quite as good, but in every other respect, it appears to be superior (lack of FaceID not withstanding).
Another point worth mentioning is apparently Google are axing the free unlimited photo storage as included with the previous models. Pathetic, especially when the two storage choices are only 64/128!
Objectively the modules of the zoom and the wide on the iPhone aren't much different either, Google goes for a higher resolution for the zoom at the expense of a smaller aperture. They have the extra module, which is nice I guess. I have an ultra wide on my S10+, and I have almost never used it I think. I don't like the distortion.
I would have recommended a Oneplus of some sort too, but for the fact that the camera will be one of the main reasons for buying, and Last time I tried a Oneplus Camera (The 7 I think?) it really wasn't up to flagship standard. Forgiveable for the price, but if it's important to you then it's a good reason to avoid the phone.
It does disappoint me about the photo storage, but eh, that's the way it goes I guess. You'll get a hell of a lot of photos on the phone with 128GB.
TameRacingDriver said:
Not for you maybe, but for me, it has been poor, barely a day has gone by without some fault. Granted, they are pretty minor, but when it happens every day, you get a bit tired of it in all honesty. There hasn’t been a single aspect of this phone that hasn’t had some kind of issue at some point during ownership; stuff like Bluetooth acting up, phone charging really slowly in cold conditions (absolutely hopeless in winter), camera crashing or not saving pictures, and its latest party trick is the random rebooting I’m now experiencing.
While its important to stress that it’s not been a completely terrible phone, it has been a frustrating one. And your line is the same one I constantly get fed, that you have no issues whatsoever. I find it hard to believe to be honest, but I can’t disprove it so I won’t go there. I guess its like people who have no problems with Windows 10 whatsoever; really?!
Android 10 has been the update to finish off my phone. The random reboots started soon after, the battery life is poor, the dark mode is horrid, the gestures are half baked. It’s all just really amateurish stuff from Google.
Believe me, I really wanted to go all in with Google with their devices and ecosystem, but its a disaster. I had a Pixel C that was also buggy and they stopped supporting it, and the software was poor, a point hammered home when I replaced it with an iPad Pro, which was so much better it’s just not even funny. And now, I’m using an XR, Apple’s budget phone from 2018 and it frankly pisses all over this Pixel 2 (granted a 2017 phone but still) in most ways.
I’m happy you had no problems, but you are lucky, believe me. Naturally due to all the problems I’ve had I’ve spent a lot of time on various forums and the quality control of Google’s devices is shocking. It’s not an accident they aren’t selling. They are expensive, buggy, subpar hardware married to software that never feels finished. Appalling really.
A full factory reset would be the first thing I would try. The charging issue I would of certainly spoke to Google customer services. While its important to stress that it’s not been a completely terrible phone, it has been a frustrating one. And your line is the same one I constantly get fed, that you have no issues whatsoever. I find it hard to believe to be honest, but I can’t disprove it so I won’t go there. I guess its like people who have no problems with Windows 10 whatsoever; really?!
Android 10 has been the update to finish off my phone. The random reboots started soon after, the battery life is poor, the dark mode is horrid, the gestures are half baked. It’s all just really amateurish stuff from Google.
Believe me, I really wanted to go all in with Google with their devices and ecosystem, but its a disaster. I had a Pixel C that was also buggy and they stopped supporting it, and the software was poor, a point hammered home when I replaced it with an iPad Pro, which was so much better it’s just not even funny. And now, I’m using an XR, Apple’s budget phone from 2018 and it frankly pisses all over this Pixel 2 (granted a 2017 phone but still) in most ways.
I’m happy you had no problems, but you are lucky, believe me. Naturally due to all the problems I’ve had I’ve spent a lot of time on various forums and the quality control of Google’s devices is shocking. It’s not an accident they aren’t selling. They are expensive, buggy, subpar hardware married to software that never feels finished. Appalling really.
Well that's given me loads to think about.
It's probably best to stick with Apple if the new 11 is supposed to be so good and the views on the various androids seem so mixed. Good battery life and camera/video work for me and obviously less hassle migrating from my 7.
Thank you again :-)
It's probably best to stick with Apple if the new 11 is supposed to be so good and the views on the various androids seem so mixed. Good battery life and camera/video work for me and obviously less hassle migrating from my 7.
Thank you again :-)
seadragon said:
Well that's given me loads to think about.
It's probably best to stick with Apple if the new 11 is supposed to be so good and the views on the various androids seem so mixed. Good battery life and camera/video work for me and obviously less hassle migrating from my 7.
Thank you again :-)
You won't be disappointed, they're really nice bits of kit. It's probably best to stick with Apple if the new 11 is supposed to be so good and the views on the various androids seem so mixed. Good battery life and camera/video work for me and obviously less hassle migrating from my 7.
Thank you again :-)
I was incredibly close to moving back to iPhone, but the 11 Pro Max is just too pricy for me, particularly as the storage options are awkward. Apple is really on the ball with phones this year.
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