Password managers any good?

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Ham_and_Jam

2,214 posts

97 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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bad company said:
I’m using Keychain for most web based passwords. I also store others such as email login details and bank logins on LastPass. Does that sound secure?

I was spooked last week when I looked in by email spam folder and saw a blackmail attempt with one of my passwords (now changed) as the subject line. So the criminal had the email address and a password. Scary.
Try checking your accounts on the following link-

https://haveibeenpwned.com/

Like you say scary to see your email / passwords laid bare, however better to know and take appropriate action.

bitchstewie

51,277 posts

210 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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bad company said:
I’m using Keychain for most web based passwords. I also store others such as email login details and bank logins on LastPass. Does that sound secure?

I was spooked last week when I looked in by email spam folder and saw a blackmail attempt with one of my passwords (now changed) as the subject line. So the criminal had the email address and a password. Scary.
Yes.

The main thing is use strong unique passwords.

It sounds like you are but it won't matter what you use to store your passwords if you use the same password on multiple sites and one of those sites is doing a bad job of storing them meaning when that site gets popped your password is out there.

Use 2FA where you can too especially on your email address as it's pretty much the key to your online life.

Mr Pointy

11,228 posts

159 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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bad company said:
I’m using Keychain for most web based passwords. I also store others such as email login details and bank logins on LastPass. Does that sound secure?

I was spooked last week when I looked in by email spam folder and saw a blackmail attempt with one of my passwords (now changed) as the subject line. So the criminal had the email address and a password. Scary
Well there's not much you can do about a site you use being compromised & your username & password being exposed. That's why it's so important to never reuse passwords & hence why a password manager can be an important tool to keep your logins safe.

We all have so many logins these days that the temptation to use the same or similar passwords is strong, but fatal. A PWM will greatly assist in having unique passwords & you just need to decide what features you want it to have. Some are stand alone, some are web/cloud based. Your method of mixed storage is ok if it works for you but others prefer to have things centralised, especially if you need cross-platform working.

bad company

18,601 posts

266 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Ham_and_Jam said:
bad company said:
I’m using Keychain for most web based passwords. I also store others such as email login details and bank logins on LastPass. Does that sound secure?

I was spooked last week when I looked in by email spam folder and saw a blackmail attempt with one of my passwords (now changed) as the subject line. So the criminal had the email address and a password. Scary.
Try checking your accounts on the following link-

https://haveibeenpwned.com/

Like you say scary to see your email / passwords laid bare, however better to know and take appropriate action.
Thanks. Yes I checked on that site when I saw my password on the blackmail email. I changed that and some other passwords. I still have one very soft password which I use to access stuff like signing into a travel agency for special offers and a football supporter site. I’m not that bothered if they’re hacked though I can’t think why anyone would bother.

I also use 2 factor authorisation.

Fore Left

1,418 posts

182 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Mr Pointy said:
s2kjock said:
I see reference to 2 factor authentication for LastPass, but is this only available if you have the paid for version? I can't seem to see how you would access it otherwise.
Yes, it's only available in the paid-for versions. I use a Yubikey.
I use 2FA for Lastpass and I don't pay for it. Looking at their website you only need to pay if you want a Yubikey or similar. App based multi-factor authentication is included in the free version.

ETA; Their website says fingerprint authentication is a paid for feature but I use it on my phone. I did pay for Lastpass many years ago so I guess it could be a hangover from that.

https://www.lastpass.com/pricing

Edited by Fore Left on Sunday 31st May 19:00

jesusbuiltmycar

4,537 posts

254 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Mr Pointy said:
s2kjock said:
I see reference to 2 factor authentication for LastPass, but is this only available if you have the paid for version? I can't seem to see how you would access it otherwise.
Yes, it's only available in the paid-for versions. I use a Yubikey.
I use Authy with LastPass - all free

rich888

2,610 posts

199 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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A word of caution to anyone using a password manager is the fact that if the developer stops updating it, then the app may stop working, and I say this from my own experience when I moved from my old and trusty iPhone 3GS to a SE with the latest OS installed on it. At that point I realised the app wouldn't run on the SE. In my case I was lucky in that the 3GS still worked so I was still able to retrieve the passwords, but I do feel sorry for users that updated the OS on their newer iPhones and then realised they couldn't access their passwords!

So backup your passwords onto a different computer, or print them off on a regular basis just in case the worst happens.

davek_964

8,821 posts

175 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
Mr Pointy said:
s2kjock said:
I see reference to 2 factor authentication for LastPass, but is this only available if you have the paid for version? I can't seem to see how you would access it otherwise.
Yes, it's only available in the paid-for versions. I use a Yubikey.
I use Authy with LastPass - all free
+1 - I enabled 2FA on LastPass last week and use the free version. You have to enable it on the website though, not the app.

Dracoro

8,683 posts

245 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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For those using Apple (and don't want 3rd party password managers), you can use KeyChain for much, but also you can also use Notes and password protect the notes.

Mr Pointy

11,228 posts

159 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Sorry, I misread the Lastpass webpage & it seems some 2FA methods are included in the free option but the advanced methods (I think the hardware based ones such as Yubikey) are only supported in the paid version. I might still be wrong though!