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RizzoTheRat said:
mikef said:
Yes, although a known issue is that running Plex prevents hibernation.
I did not know that. Is there a workaround like a scheduler that shuts down and restarts plex at certain times?bmwmike said:
qnap 451? interesting, thanks.
Out of interest do you have a lot of media on yours and streaming services running ? - does sound like you have a rogue process running some where. I would suggest checking the [utl=http://forum.qnap.com/]QNAP forums[/url] but then if it is a known problem there's no guarantees QNAP will look at it (it's accepted they no longer appear to read the forums).When I got my first QNAP unit they were great but in recent times they seem to spend more time looking at what they can add than fixing existing issues. Having said that, while my 219P has not been supported for 2 to 3 years now, they still provide regular security updates for it. If/when I come to upgrade/replace mine I have already decided I will ask around for the recent experiences of Synology users.
Having said that the reason I bought my present unit when upgrading was partly due to it's HDMI connectivity and the HybridDesk Station functionality (desk top for TV set with various graphical apps including media streaming) and while much of that functionality has been lost over time, part of it was down to YouTube changing the licensing of their app (believe the Synology TV desktop equivalent also lost the YouTube app - and moot as my TV now does this in 4K) and partly down to their change in codex package, again due to licensing. Present one does a fraction of the video formats out there.
dapprman said:
bmwmike said:
qnap 451? interesting, thanks.
Out of interest do you have a lot of media on yours and streaming services running ? - does sound like you have a rogue process running some where. I would suggest checking the [utl=http://forum.qnap.com/]QNAP forums[/url] but then if it is a known problem there's no guarantees QNAP will look at it (it's accepted they no longer appear to read the forums).When I got my first QNAP unit they were great but in recent times they seem to spend more time looking at what they can add than fixing existing issues. Having said that, while my 219P has not been supported for 2 to 3 years now, they still provide regular security updates for it. If/when I come to upgrade/replace mine I have already decided I will ask around for the recent experiences of Synology users.
Having said that the reason I bought my present unit when upgrading was partly due to it's HDMI connectivity and the HybridDesk Station functionality (desk top for TV set with various graphical apps including media streaming) and while much of that functionality has been lost over time, part of it was down to YouTube changing the licensing of their app (believe the Synology TV desktop equivalent also lost the YouTube app - and moot as my TV now does this in 4K) and partly down to their change in codex package, again due to licensing. Present one does a fraction of the video formats out there.
I bought mine for its HDMI connection and USB 3 but those are hopelessly out of reach in the attic. It would make a poor streaming server because its so noisy (partly due to disk choice for sure).
Some HDDs are noisier / more chatty than others.
I had WD Red exclusively in my NAS tower for years and they were very quiet. Then I added an array of Toshiba N300 8TB HDDs and have found them to be much more chattty / chuntery / noisy.
Fortunately I have a small downstairs box room well away from anything else, which is my library & storage room, and have relocated the NAS to there where it can be as noisy as it wants because I can't hear it.
I had WD Red exclusively in my NAS tower for years and they were very quiet. Then I added an array of Toshiba N300 8TB HDDs and have found them to be much more chattty / chuntery / noisy.
Fortunately I have a small downstairs box room well away from anything else, which is my library & storage room, and have relocated the NAS to there where it can be as noisy as it wants because I can't hear it.
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Wednesday 8th December 11:52
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Some HDDs are noisier / more chatty than others.
I had WD Red exclusively in my NAS tower for years and they were very quiet. Then I added an array of Toshiba N300 8TB HDDs and have found them to be much more chattty / chuntery / noisy.
Fortunately I have a small downstairs box room well away from anything else, which is my library & storage room, and have relocated the NAS to there where it can be as noisy as it wants because I can't hear it.
Yah thats good and all, but endless chattering tickles my eco funny-bone - why are they running when not needed, etc. What i should have done, and may well do, is have a small SSD cache at the front and use the NAS as a proxy to AWS S3. The NAS can handle encryption key management and S3 is just a back-end. No idea if i need to build that or if there is something that does it already. I think the NAS software does some of it.I had WD Red exclusively in my NAS tower for years and they were very quiet. Then I added an array of Toshiba N300 8TB HDDs and have found them to be much more chattty / chuntery / noisy.
Fortunately I have a small downstairs box room well away from anything else, which is my library & storage room, and have relocated the NAS to there where it can be as noisy as it wants because I can't hear it.
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Wednesday 8th December 11:52
anonymous said:
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I've found the opposite - WD Reds I've struggled to get more than 3 years out of in my Synologies. But that's probably because I'm running Surveillance Station with multiple cameras, so they're in constant use. I'm currently trying Seagate IronWolf drives to see if they last any longer. The synology drive failure warning is very useful though!Magnum 475 said:
anonymous said:
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I've found the opposite - WD Reds I've struggled to get more than 3 years out of in my Synologies. But that's probably because I'm running Surveillance Station with multiple cameras, so they're in constant use. I'm currently trying Seagate IronWolf drives to see if they last any longer. The synology drive failure warning is very useful though!I too run Surveillance Station, but have a mixture of Reds and Purples in my NAS Drive - Reds for nbormal network tasks, etc and the Purples are dedicated to Surveillance Station.
Seagate are just teh same - IronWolf for general NAS and SkyHawk for 24/7 Surveillance Type Applications
DavidY said:
Magnum 475 said:
anonymous said:
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I've found the opposite - WD Reds I've struggled to get more than 3 years out of in my Synologies. But that's probably because I'm running Surveillance Station with multiple cameras, so they're in constant use. I'm currently trying Seagate IronWolf drives to see if they last any longer. The synology drive failure warning is very useful though!I too run Surveillance Station, but have a mixture of Reds and Purples in my NAS Drive - Reds for nbormal network tasks, etc and the Purples are dedicated to Surveillance Station.
Seagate are just teh same - IronWolf for general NAS and SkyHawk for 24/7 Surveillance Type Applications
NAS specific drives are just optimised for the maximum life/performance at the specific role they're expected to perform. A standard drive you pulled out of an old PC will work fine, but its life span will likely be a bit shorter as it wasn't designed to run all the time, and it'll probably be noisier as NAS ones are often designed for silence while PC drives are designed for speed. But that's why they warn you about disk failures and you use them in Raid
bmwmike said:
Yah thats good and all, but endless chattering tickles my eco funny-bone - why are they running when not needed, etc.
Just to be clear, I was talking about a little brief chunter every few seconds, rather than continuous thrashing. If you are getting the latter then something is clearly wrong. But I do agree that it's not ideal for there to be regular disc access when the NAS is idling.
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