Got drunk .......... ordered a Chromebook !!

Got drunk .......... ordered a Chromebook !!

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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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AJB88 said:
Its not though is it.

You've got access to Android and Linux apps now.
which you can do in windows 10. A 1k laptop would all the chromebook stuff plus loads more.

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
which you can do in windows 10. A 1k laptop would all the chromebook stuff plus loads more.
Can't speak for a 1k Chromebook, cheaper chromebooks punch way above their price class in terms of build quality, smoothness and battery. Needing a lot less horsepower has those advantages.

165gt

333 posts

164 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I've got a Pixelbook, had it for almost 2 years now. It's a great bit of kit, well engineered, looks fantastic, much thinner than a conventional laptop, great screen, battery easily lasts 8 hrs on the move and it's so easily transportable. Having to be online is overstated and most people now have data available through their phones, to which it auto-tethers, so not really an issue. Also, so many 'apps' are moving to cloud/online/PWA, so rather than being a disadvantage, it's ahead of its time in some ways. Updates are frequent and pretty seamless. Linux container works great for what I use it for (R-Studio, VS Code, Anaconda for Python etc.), though there are some limitations. I hate having to use my work Windows laptop and never touch my old, personal one.

Honestly, it's been a revelation...if I was buying another, it'd always be a high end one (budget ones I think suit the 'it's a browser' users).

I'd be surprised if you end up feeling like you'd like to return it but admittedly, I enjoy the geeky side of running Linux in a container on it, so can see it's not for all.

Corso Marche

1,722 posts

202 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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dickymint said:
I've read that not many can load Linux Beta as it's model specific and not supported? Mine does have that option - i may try it as and when.
I believe most Chrome OS devices released in the last 24 months have it. The original restriction was with older versions of the Linux Kernel which sits at the core of Chrome OS. But Linux support is also being rolled out to some of those older devices currently.
If you don't need Linux desktop apps then there is no need to activate the option. I use it a little, mostly for a genealogy program (GRAMPS), image editing (GIMP), and I've Firefox and Chromium installed to give options for browsing if necessary. I used stuff like Shotcut for video editing in the past, but if I was doing regular video editing I'd use a remote online service again. I just used Shotcut for a short one-off video.

A lot of the info you'll find online about Chromebooks and Chrome OS is totally outdated and wildly inaccurate nowadays, but the myths and ill-informed opinions still persist.
It's quite the capable platform, and would fill the needs of a huge number of people in 2020.

My tips would be;
  • Consider your uses, and create separate accounts for use cases you want to keep independent of one another.
  • Take advantage of the Google One offer you got with the Chromebook when you need it, and utilise the free storage on Drive for your storage. All my files are stored on Drive, including files/documents/images I use in Linux apps.
  • Create a Downloads folder on Drive, and set that as the Download location in the Chrome browser. Any temporary files you need will then be accessible across all your devices which access Drive. You can then move it to another location/folder on Drive quickly, and if you accidentally delete a file it'll be in your Bin on Drive. Deleting files on local storage in Chrome OS is permanent, and can't be undone.
  • If you prefer the feel or look of independent windows for separate apps then set them to open as independent windows, rather than tabs in the browser. My browser is my 'browser', and GMail, Docs, Sheets, Photos, Keep, Slides, & Drive all run in their own windows. It feels like a more traditional desktop environment with the flexibility of independent windows, and each app window has its own colour-coding.
  • Take the time to learn the trackpad gestures and keyboard shortcuts. Like most computers, it will transform how you use the platform.

Corso Marche

1,722 posts

202 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
which you can do in windows 10. A 1k laptop would all the chromebook stuff plus loads more.
Loads more 'traditional' stuff. Traditions change over time. Not every user requires 'loads more'.
It would also provide 'loads more';
  • security vulnerabilities
  • update issues
  • OS/system maintenance
  • fresh OS installs every few years to restore performance etc etc etc
The first machine we bought 5 years ago was an experiment to see if it could replace my wife's Windows laptop which took a tumble. Since then it's the only OS on any laptop in the household. I don't want the hassle of a Windows device in the household. I just want devices I power on, perform a task, and power off, and which are secure.
And before anybody says anything I've been using computers since the first days of PC-DOS and MS-DOS, and have seen all flavours of Windows down through the decades. I'm more than familiar with Windows, Linux, and Mac-OS.

It's about having choice, is it not? Chrome OS has fit my uses perfectly. As it does many others. I'm glad the choice exists, and to have options.

superpp

393 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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leef44 said:
Just found out that it doesn't support NowTV so had to go back to my old Dell computer on Windows for that.
Does the android Now TV app not work?

dickymint

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24,380 posts

259 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Nice to hear the positives and advice thumbup My thoughts are the OS is gathering momentum at a pace and hopefully the spec of this one (which i believe is expandable) will future proof it for what's to come. Apart from the bombshell that i could have saved £100 quid if i'd waited a couple of days I'm well happy but hey ho that's life.

leef44

4,401 posts

154 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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superpp said:
leef44 said:
Just found out that it doesn't support NowTV so had to go back to my old Dell computer on Windows for that.
Does the android Now TV app not work?
I went to NowTV, it wouldn't load the Now video player.
I went to Google about NowTV and Chromebook. It says Chromebook does not support the video player app.


AJB88

12,449 posts

172 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Google in the future will run Fuschia OS on phone and laptop/desktop to merge Android & ChromeOS.

Watchman

6,391 posts

246 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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AJB88 said:
Google in the future will run Fuschia OS on phone and laptop/desktop to merge Android & ChromeOS.
That has great potential. Any more details? Android apps on Chrome are a bit rubbish. Addressing this would be best.

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Watchman said:
That has great potential. Any more details? Android apps on Chrome are a bit rubbish. Addressing this would be best.
Not all of them. The kids love the games and they seem to work fine...

James_N

2,956 posts

235 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Never looked at a chromebook before but i browse quite a lot on an old acer laptop with a SSD. Its not too bad but i like the look of a chromebook. Are the more budget friendly ones worth it and still as zippy speed wise?

All i'd want it for really is browsing and the odd bit of work / MS office type stuff

Thanks smile

AJB88

12,449 posts

172 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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James_N said:
Never looked at a chromebook before but i browse quite a lot on an old acer laptop with a SSD. Its not too bad but i like the look of a chromebook. Are the more budget friendly ones worth it and still as zippy speed wise?

All i'd want it for really is browsing and the odd bit of work / MS office type stuff

Thanks smile
Yeh even the cheap ones are fine for that. I still say these days 4GB ram isn't great though.

My LG Chromebase was regularly using all available Ram, You can set it to use the SSD as virtual ram but eventually upped it 8GB for the overhead.

Office wise you will have the choice of free Google Docs or Office 365 (paid).

dickymint

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24,380 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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AJB88 said:
James_N said:
Never looked at a chromebook before but i browse quite a lot on an old acer laptop with a SSD. Its not too bad but i like the look of a chromebook. Are the more budget friendly ones worth it and still as zippy speed wise?

All i'd want it for really is browsing and the odd bit of work / MS office type stuff

Thanks smile
Yeh even the cheap ones are fine for that. I still say these days 4GB ram isn't great though.

My LG Chromebase was regularly using all available Ram, You can set it to use the SSD as virtual ram but eventually upped it 8GB for the overhead.

Office wise you will have the choice of free Google Docs or Office 365 (paid).
or via Linux?...................... https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/5-reasons-yo...

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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I had an acquaintance who would happily describe himself as a luddite.
He planned a lot of trips using google maps and booking sites, plus some email.

Got him an HP Chromebox + FHD screen + mouse/keyboard combo for about half a grant about 6 years ago now. He calls it magic and everytime someone comes around he can't get over the fact how good and solid it's been and how cheap it was.

For some people it's more than they'll ever need.

AJB88

12,449 posts

172 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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dickymint said:
or via Linux?...................... https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/5-reasons-yo...
Yeh go for it.

I'm a long term Linux user so very familiar with Gimp and LIbre Office..

I'm typing this now on an LG Chromebase converted to Linux.