Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight

[Glade]

The retailers are probably raging because they have stock of old models that just won't shift now.

And presumably, there isn't 60% margin on those so they can't just chop the price by 50% to shift them at lesser margin, but a profit nonetheless.

[Rojibo]

FourWheelDrift said:

I really don't know what to make of this. Scan are offering pre-built (configured) RTX 3080 option for half the price of a 2080 Ti and even less than a 2080 Super.

Add a 3080 - £649.99
Add a 2080 Super - £719.99
Add a 2080 Ti - £1,141.99

Bonkers, or a mistake?

And the 3090 is still only £20 more than a 2080 Ti - https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/corsair-ic...

Been thinking more about this, to just come out like that and effectively make the 3rd tier card better than the previous generation top tier card is a pretty crazy move, and to be so aggressive on the pricing too. I wonder if they know something about what AMD is releasing?

It's pretty insane to just make their old lineup so redundant like that.

[FourWheelDrift]

AMD's Big Navi is supposed to be twice as powerful as an RX 5700 XT. Which means it's still behind the 3000 series.

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/amd-big-navi-gpu...

"might" deliver the double the power of an RX 5700 XT. And I bet their price structure reflects it, since their current lineup still includes the Vega and RX 500 series. - https://www.amd.com/en/graphics/radeon-rx-graphics

[mikef]

scan.co.uk said:

Available from September 17th at 2PM

Posting myself a reminder...

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

Rojibo said:

FourWheelDrift said:

I really don't know what to make of this. Scan are offering pre-built (configured) RTX 3080 option for half the price of a 2080 Ti and even less than a 2080 Super.

Add a 3080 - £649.99
Add a 2080 Super - £719.99
Add a 2080 Ti - £1,141.99

Bonkers, or a mistake?

And the 3090 is still only £20 more than a 2080 Ti - https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/corsair-ic...

Been thinking more about this, to just come out like that and effectively make the 3rd tier card better than the previous generation top tier card is a pretty crazy move, and to be so aggressive on the pricing too. I wonder if they know something about what AMD is releasing?

It's pretty insane to just make their old lineup so redundant like that.

I think it's driven by the console specs TBH. 4k and RT for less than the price of a GFX card.

GFX cards are stupid money now (due to bitcoin) and it's killing pc gaming.

I currently have a 1070. Prior to that, I had two 580s in SLI. The obvious 2080 upgrade became an xbox x and a ps4 Pro.

[Durzel]

OCUK have announced dates you can pre-order the cards, a pre-order for the pre-order if you like.

Word around the campfire is that prices are expected to rise between now and then, and that not allowing preorders until later in the month means they are beholden to honour any prices that are paid right now.

I have a feeling these 3080 cards are not going to be £649....

[FourWheelDrift]

I bet retailers are busy having zoom meetings to allegedly price fix the new cards higher than RRP so that they can still shift the old stock, reason: because supply problems.

[peter tdci]

FourWheelDrift said:

I really don't know what to make of this. Scan are offering pre-built (configured) RTX 3080 option for half the price of a 2080 Ti and even less than a 2080 Super.

Add a 3080 - £649.99
Add a 2080 Super - £719.99
Add a 2080 Ti - £1,141.99

Bonkers, or a mistake?
And the 3090 is still only £20 more than a 2080 Ti - https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/corsair-ic...

Aren't those just the incremental costs for each GPU choice? They look like the list prices for each component, not the final amount for each PC?

[FourWheelDrift]

peter tdci said:

FourWheelDrift said:

I really don't know what to make of this. Scan are offering pre-built (configured) RTX 3080 option for half the price of a 2080 Ti and even less than a 2080 Super.

Add a 3080 - £649.99
Add a 2080 Super - £719.99
Add a 2080 Ti - £1,141.99

Bonkers, or a mistake?
And the 3090 is still only £20 more than a 2080 Ti - https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/corsair-ic...

Aren't those just the incremental costs for each GPU choice? They look like the list prices for each component, not the final amount for each PC?

The 2080 Ti is the current choice. Select the 3080 instead and the total price drops from £3,594 to £3,102. Select the 2080 Super and the price goes back up to £3,172.

So that system with a 2080 Ti - £3,594
With a 2080 Super - £3,172
With a 3080 - £3,102

[peter tdci]

FourWheelDrift said:

peter tdci said:

FourWheelDrift said:

I really don't know what to make of this. Scan are offering pre-built (configured) RTX 3080 option for half the price of a 2080 Ti and even less than a 2080 Super.

Add a 3080 - £649.99
Add a 2080 Super - £719.99
Add a 2080 Ti - £1,141.99

Bonkers, or a mistake?
And the 3090 is still only £20 more than a 2080 Ti - https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/corsair-ic...

Aren't those just the incremental costs for each GPU choice? They look like the list prices for each component, not the final amount for each PC?

The 2080 Ti is the current choice. Select the 3080 instead and the total price drops from £3,594 to £3,102. Select the 2080 Super and the price goes back up to £3,172.

So that system with a 2080 Ti - £3,594
With a 2080 Super - £3,172
With a 3080 - £3,102

That's what I said, I think?

The difference in list price between a typical 2080 Ti and a 2080 Super is 1141.99-719.99=422. And that's the difference between the 2080 Ti system and the 2080 system you quoted.

The quoted price for the 3080 FE is 649.99, so that explains the £70 difference to the 2080 Super total price.

[Durzel]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

A nice idea, but the website is either going to crash immediately or all the cards will be bought by bots. Probably both.

[Will O. Bey jr]

Looking at the prices, these cards might be like Rolex / PP sports watches, priced below market and unobtainable due to short supply. Their pricing strategy seems weirdly aggressive.

[130R]

I think I will wait for the 3080TI. There is a huge difference in VRAM between the 3080 and the 3090 but probably not in performance. I don't really have any need to upgrade from my 2080TI though (I've had it for nearly 2 years and didn't buy it last week fortunately!)

[Stevil]

Think if I can place an order for a 3090 I will, absolutely no need for it but I do like the idea of saying F**k you! to every game and just cranking everything up to maximum for 2-3 years, Flight Sim 2020 I'm not referring to you as you're an outlier there. Have got a Reverb G2 on order too.

[Rojibo]

Stevil said:

Think if I can place an order for a 3090 I will, absolutely no need for it but I do like the idea of saying F**k you! to every game and just cranking everything up to maximum for 2-3 years, Flight Sim 2020 I'm not referring to you as you're an outlier there. Have got a Reverb G2 on order too.

I'm torn between the two, the 3080 is without a doubt far faster than my 9 series Titan, however, going from 12Gb to 10Gb of Graphics memory feels like a step backwards, even though it isn't.

I think the issue is with the 3090 it's diminishing returns over the 3080 for around double the price, it's not going to be double the performance. I'll go ahead and pre-order a 3080 if I can somehow get on the site when everyone else is trying, and perhaps upgrade to a 3080ti if it gets released in a year or two.

[RobDickinson]

The direct storage stuff should compensate a little when it's out I guess

[FourWheelDrift]

peter tdci said:

That's what I said, I think?

The difference in list price between a typical 2080 Ti and a 2080 Super is 1141.99-719.99=422. And that's the difference between the 2080 Ti system and the 2080 system you quoted.

The quoted price for the 3080 FE is 649.99, so that explains the £70 difference to the 2080 Super total price.

My point is the pricing, why haven't the 2080 Ti and 2080 Super been reduced, no one in their right mind would pick them over a 3080.

[skinnyman]

Gamermeld (Youtuber) has shown leaks of an 8GB 3070 Super & 16GB 3070Ti.

Smells like the last gen, when the Super cards pissed everyone off who bought the standard version a few months prior.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

That's odd there is only one missing sku was hoping for a 3050 not a 3070ti.

[Durzel]

FourWheelDrift said:

peter tdci said:

That's what I said, I think?

The difference in list price between a typical 2080 Ti and a 2080 Super is 1141.99-719.99=422. And that's the difference between the 2080 Ti system and the 2080 system you quoted.

The quoted price for the 3080 FE is 649.99, so that explains the £70 difference to the 2080 Super total price.

My point is the pricing, why haven't the 2080 Ti and 2080 Super been reduced, no one in their right mind would pick them over a 3080.

Why swallow the hit if you don't have to? If someone buys those cards, and is happy with them, and happens to be unaware of the 3xxx cards coming out, is that unfair? It's on the consumer to do their research before buying.