Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight
Discussion
I will get a 3080, only just got a 2060S but that was bet hedging and not seeing £1200 value in a 2080 with the new stuff coming, and that seems to have been a good strategy, will lose a bit, might just give the 2060S to my eldest for Christmas but 2080 owners will be lucky to sell them at anywhere near what they paid.
"Do you want to buy a 2080, I paid £1200, big discount, have it for £700"
"But the newer, better 3080 is £649, why would I pay more for that ?"
2080 is worth what £300 odd now ? if you can get a 3060 for £400 that matches it, drawing less current whilst being much newer with additional features, I wouldnt pay much for a 2080 now, Nvidia dropped a bombshell there, but £1200 or a bloody graphics card is mental anyway. Especially with the PS5 and Xbox Series X just around the corner which should be pretty amazing graphics wise.
Thats a stinging drop, best to just carry on using it as its still an immensely powerful card, I am determined to have the latest and greatest in my pc for once and not think about having the value option, last time I did that was with a Voodoo 5500, the twin GPU job. Then, that should do me for several years.
The 2060S seems pretty capable, 71 FPS in Assetto Corsa across three 1080P monitors last night, and by and large very smooth in FS2020 in the same config.
Is there still much they can do with graphics cards ? where else can they go, must be getting to the point where anything can be done, at huge resolutions and with real time ray tracing, I remember single scenes with RT taking ages to render.
"Do you want to buy a 2080, I paid £1200, big discount, have it for £700"
"But the newer, better 3080 is £649, why would I pay more for that ?"
2080 is worth what £300 odd now ? if you can get a 3060 for £400 that matches it, drawing less current whilst being much newer with additional features, I wouldnt pay much for a 2080 now, Nvidia dropped a bombshell there, but £1200 or a bloody graphics card is mental anyway. Especially with the PS5 and Xbox Series X just around the corner which should be pretty amazing graphics wise.
Thats a stinging drop, best to just carry on using it as its still an immensely powerful card, I am determined to have the latest and greatest in my pc for once and not think about having the value option, last time I did that was with a Voodoo 5500, the twin GPU job. Then, that should do me for several years.
The 2060S seems pretty capable, 71 FPS in Assetto Corsa across three 1080P monitors last night, and by and large very smooth in FS2020 in the same config.
Is there still much they can do with graphics cards ? where else can they go, must be getting to the point where anything can be done, at huge resolutions and with real time ray tracing, I remember single scenes with RT taking ages to render.
PC gaming is a reasonably recent thing for me so apologies if this is a daft question.
The FE reference cards, is there any downside to them over a 3rd party card. I'm looking at the 3070 in particular. I like the clean lines of it over the RGB everywhere designs everyone else seem to be releasing.
The FE reference cards, is there any downside to them over a 3rd party card. I'm looking at the 3070 in particular. I like the clean lines of it over the RGB everywhere designs everyone else seem to be releasing.
DuncsGTi said:
PC gaming is a reasonably recent thing for me so apologies if this is a daft question.
The FE reference cards, is there any downside to them over a 3rd party card. I'm looking at the 3070 in particular. I like the clean lines of it over the RGB everywhere designs everyone else seem to be releasing.
Some people like the cooler design, others don't and aren't sure of how well it will work, it may in practice be nosier than a third party card. The FE reference cards, is there any downside to them over a 3rd party card. I'm looking at the 3070 in particular. I like the clean lines of it over the RGB everywhere designs everyone else seem to be releasing.
The FE cards do not actually use a reference board either, for aftermarket cooling, so waterblocks that fit the 3070/3080 reference will
not fit FE cards.
I believe the FE cards also have a factory overclock, I'll be going for one and putting an aftermarket waterblock on it, though I think the Nvidia cooler will be fine.
Impressive stuff from Nvidia in everything except power consumption.
They claimed 1.9x performance per watt but the 3070 is 220W vs 250W for the previous-gen, supposedly equivalent 2080Ti. Only a small improvment there. Maybe down to using Samsung's allegedly quite crappy 10nm process (which they say they have tweaked to 8nm equivalent).
If I was to get a 3070 to upgrade the 1060 I currently have been holding on to (which is quite likely) I'll probably need to upgrade my PSU to 600/650W now. Or I will wait a bit longer to see if a refresh to TSMCs full 7nm process is likely to happen down the line, which would lower power consumption and heat generated as a result. It's not like you'll be able to get your hands on a card at retail price until a couple of months into 2021 IMO anyway, stocks will reputedly be limited and demand will be sky high. Things should be clearer by the time it's easy to get a 3070 or 3080.
However, the price/performance is fantastic. This is exactly what punters have been waiting for after the disappointing (price/perf wise) improvements offered by the RTX20x0 series over the previous GTX10x0 cards.
They claimed 1.9x performance per watt but the 3070 is 220W vs 250W for the previous-gen, supposedly equivalent 2080Ti. Only a small improvment there. Maybe down to using Samsung's allegedly quite crappy 10nm process (which they say they have tweaked to 8nm equivalent).
If I was to get a 3070 to upgrade the 1060 I currently have been holding on to (which is quite likely) I'll probably need to upgrade my PSU to 600/650W now. Or I will wait a bit longer to see if a refresh to TSMCs full 7nm process is likely to happen down the line, which would lower power consumption and heat generated as a result. It's not like you'll be able to get your hands on a card at retail price until a couple of months into 2021 IMO anyway, stocks will reputedly be limited and demand will be sky high. Things should be clearer by the time it's easy to get a 3070 or 3080.
However, the price/performance is fantastic. This is exactly what punters have been waiting for after the disappointing (price/perf wise) improvements offered by the RTX20x0 series over the previous GTX10x0 cards.
Trustmeimadoctor said:
Quite often the 3rd party cards are better cooled and quieter and faster
Not necessarily. Nvidia can keep the best boards for themselves. The 2080Ti from Nvidia had a boost clock of 1635Mhz, the Asus Strix was 1575Mhz.Although since the release of GPU Boost 2.0 the clock speeds advertised are largely irrelevant. My EVGA 1080Ti has an advertised boost clock of 1683Mhz, but it sits at 1895Mhz all day without any manual overclocking. If you look at any charts comparing the various 2080Ti cards the FPS is within a couple of digits of each other, its mainly the cooling that's the differentiating factor (and looks).
Holy s
t I had no idea they were that big.
Better hold on to that bad boy as you’re screwing it into the case otherwise it’s going to snap the port off the board!
I would guess we’re going to see cases with GPU supports? (if they don’t already exist)
PS. That’s an Asus card pictured, as that’s the ROG logo on it.
t I had no idea they were that big.Better hold on to that bad boy as you’re screwing it into the case otherwise it’s going to snap the port off the board!
I would guess we’re going to see cases with GPU supports? (if they don’t already exist)
PS. That’s an Asus card pictured, as that’s the ROG logo on it.
A little hesitation on the 3090 buy button - https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/is_t...
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