Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight
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Rojibo said:
It was about 6pm last night, but there are no set times, best way I've found is to follow @partalert on twitter and turn on notifications.
I think perhaps supply is improving though? We had 3070/3080 FEs last week, and 3060ti/3070/3080FEs just yesterday. Either it's getting better or thats our lot for the year
They usually have drops of them weekly. I think perhaps supply is improving though? We had 3070/3080 FEs last week, and 3060ti/3070/3080FEs just yesterday. Either it's getting better or thats our lot for the year
Time wise can be all through day and evening. Bulk has been early afternoon when I have been paying attention.
RTX 3060 unhackable mining limiter hacked - https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-470-05-...
"ComputerBase can confirm that only the beta driver GeForce 470.05 distributed by Nvidia to developers and via the Windows Insider Program ensures that the performance of the GeForce RTX 3060 in the Ethereum algorithm no longer drops. A BIOS update is not necessary."
(Current released driver is 461.72.)
NVidia's board of directors this morning.
"ComputerBase can confirm that only the beta driver GeForce 470.05 distributed by Nvidia to developers and via the Windows Insider Program ensures that the performance of the GeForce RTX 3060 in the Ethereum algorithm no longer drops. A BIOS update is not necessary."
(Current released driver is 461.72.)
NVidia's board of directors this morning.
This is probably a really unpopular opinion, but I think people should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want with the expensive hardware that they've bought (as long as it's legal).
I get that the mining thing sucks for gamers and people wanting to buy GPUs for that purpose, but at the end of the day it's a piece of electronic hardware, if it's useful for multiple reasons then people are going to want to use them for those other reasons..
I get that the mining thing sucks for gamers and people wanting to buy GPUs for that purpose, but at the end of the day it's a piece of electronic hardware, if it's useful for multiple reasons then people are going to want to use them for those other reasons..
smithyithy said:
This is probably a really unpopular opinion, but I think people should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want with the expensive hardware that they've bought (as long as it's legal).
I get that the mining thing sucks for gamers and people wanting to buy GPUs for that purpose, but at the end of the day it's a piece of electronic hardware, if it's useful for multiple reasons then people are going to want to use them for those other reasons..
I agree!I get that the mining thing sucks for gamers and people wanting to buy GPUs for that purpose, but at the end of the day it's a piece of electronic hardware, if it's useful for multiple reasons then people are going to want to use them for those other reasons..
Imagine paying £2000 for a scalper's RTX3090, and then Nvidia decides to remove it's ability to accelerate mining via a driver/firmware update.
It's not like you bought it direct from them, or were asked you what you were going to be using it for before you bought it, so why should they have the right to limit what you use it for afterwards?
If they'd sorted their own supply chain out, there wouldn't have been any problems anyway.
Can you imagine Microsoft banning Nvidia from receiving emails with attachments in Outlook, as it places a strain on the internet.
mmm-five said:
I agree!
Imagine paying £2000 for a scalper's RTX3090, and then Nvidia decides to remove it's ability to accelerate mining via a driver/firmware update.
It's not like you bought it direct from them, or were asked you what you were going to be using it for before you bought it, so why should they have the right to limit what you use it for afterwards?
If they'd sorted their own supply chain out, there wouldn't have been any problems anyway.
Can you imagine Microsoft banning Nvidia from receiving emails with attachments in Outlook, as it places a strain on the internet.
But they did not limit the 3090, or any other GPU apart from the 3060 and that could still mine but with limited performance.Imagine paying £2000 for a scalper's RTX3090, and then Nvidia decides to remove it's ability to accelerate mining via a driver/firmware update.
It's not like you bought it direct from them, or were asked you what you were going to be using it for before you bought it, so why should they have the right to limit what you use it for afterwards?
If they'd sorted their own supply chain out, there wouldn't have been any problems anyway.
Can you imagine Microsoft banning Nvidia from receiving emails with attachments in Outlook, as it places a strain on the internet.
Edited by Muppet007 on Monday 15th March 22:52
"Nvidia admits it accidentally unlocked the RTX 3060 for crypto miners" https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/rtx-3060-mining-ne...
They have now taken down the driver to stop this exploit. But has now been re-uploaded by users who had it.
They have now taken down the driver to stop this exploit. But has now been re-uploaded by users who had it.
smithyithy said:
This is probably a really unpopular opinion, but I think people should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want with the expensive hardware that they've bought (as long as it's legal).
I get that the mining thing sucks for gamers and people wanting to buy GPUs for that purpose, but at the end of the day it's a piece of electronic hardware, if it's useful for multiple reasons then people are going to want to use them for those other reasons..
Yep, despite being stuck looking for a 3070/3080 (upgraded my monitor to a G9 so I'd like to be able to use it properly....) I think people should be able to use their card to do what they want. I know a lot of people are earning some cash on the side by using their expensive GPUs to mine when they are not gaming and good luck to them.I get that the mining thing sucks for gamers and people wanting to buy GPUs for that purpose, but at the end of the day it's a piece of electronic hardware, if it's useful for multiple reasons then people are going to want to use them for those other reasons..
If mining is going to be a thing from now on, I'm pretty sure companies will soon come up with dedicated hardware that outperforms re-purposed GPUs at a competitive price.
smithyithy said:
This is probably a really unpopular opinion, but I think people should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want with the expensive hardware that they've bought (as long as it's legal).
I get that the mining thing sucks for gamers and people wanting to buy GPUs for that purpose, but at the end of the day it's a piece of electronic hardware, if it's useful for multiple reasons then people are going to want to use them for those other reasons..
The whole laissez-faire is great in a Heinlein-esque fantasy novel but failes when applied to real life.I get that the mining thing sucks for gamers and people wanting to buy GPUs for that purpose, but at the end of the day it's a piece of electronic hardware, if it's useful for multiple reasons then people are going to want to use them for those other reasons..
You see NVIDIA and AMD are already making cards specifically for mining, the miners are buying those and the cards they are making for gamers.
However where it really falls apart and what really scares the chipmakers is when bitcoin crashes. When it crashes the market will be flooded with high end graphics cards at well below MRRP as miners try to recoup their outlay. This is why they are reluctant to ramp up capacity, even if there was enough spare capacity in fabs to begin with (the current chip shortage is affecting every industry).
captain_cynic said:
The whole laissez-faire is great in a Heinlein-esque fantasy novel but failes when applied to real life.
You see NVIDIA and AMD are already making cards specifically for mining, the miners are buying those and the cards they are making for gamers.
However where it really falls apart and what really scares the chipmakers is when bitcoin crashes. When it crashes the market will be flooded with high end graphics cards at well below MRRP as miners try to recoup their outlay. This is why they are reluctant to ramp up capacity, even if there was enough spare capacity in fabs to begin with (the current chip shortage is affecting every industry).
As I recall AMD tried to make those cards for mining and they were a flop, NVIDIA aren't selling them yet but I suspect they'll be a flop too as they have no resale value unlike the gaming cards... You see NVIDIA and AMD are already making cards specifically for mining, the miners are buying those and the cards they are making for gamers.
However where it really falls apart and what really scares the chipmakers is when bitcoin crashes. When it crashes the market will be flooded with high end graphics cards at well below MRRP as miners try to recoup their outlay. This is why they are reluctant to ramp up capacity, even if there was enough spare capacity in fabs to begin with (the current chip shortage is affecting every industry).
Anyone who buys some hardware should be free to do what they like with it, imo.
I'll just mention that CCL Online are showing stock of RTX3060, 3060Ti and (over £2K) 3090: https://www.cclonline.com/category/430/PC-Componen...
Probably will be gone in minutes
Probably will be gone in minutes
mikef said:
I'll just mention that CCL Online are showing stock of RTX3060, 3060Ti and (over £2K) 3090: https://www.cclonline.com/category/430/PC-Componen...
Probably will be gone in minutes
£2k+ for a 3090, what a joke. Glad I got mine before all this craziness kicked off.Probably will be gone in minutes
Oakey said:
anxious_ant said:
So my kids introduced me to Minecraft, it's pretty fun!
Surprised how intensive it is on the GPU though, with shader pack I need to tweak so that I get about 90+fps.
Try BSL shader and Jerm's better leaves. Surprised how intensive it is on the GPU though, with shader pack I need to tweak so that I get about 90+fps.
Mr Whippy said:
I wouldn't buy a mining card either. And you can spot them a mile away because the sellers have about 10 for sale. Or other mining related stuff.
Roll on the crypto crash... it can't be too far away now. I quite fancy a 3090 for £750.
Isn’t there a contradiction there Whippy? Roll on the crypto crash... it can't be too far away now. I quite fancy a 3090 for £750.
You wouldn’t buy a mining card but would like a cheap 3090, which would almost certainly be a mining card
leglessAlex said:
Isn’t there a contradiction there Whippy?
You wouldn’t buy a mining card but would like a cheap 3090, which would almost certainly be a mining card
I suspect he means a used one that's been running full tilt 24x7 for a long time and is probably suffering from heat damage and knackered fan bearings. You wouldn’t buy a mining card but would like a cheap 3090, which would almost certainly be a mining card
leglessAlex said:
Mr Whippy said:
I wouldn't buy a mining card either. And you can spot them a mile away because the sellers have about 10 for sale. Or other mining related stuff.
Roll on the crypto crash... it can't be too far away now. I quite fancy a 3090 for £750.
Isn’t there a contradiction there Whippy? Roll on the crypto crash... it can't be too far away now. I quite fancy a 3090 for £750.
You wouldn’t buy a mining card but would like a cheap 3090, which would almost certainly be a mining card
FourWheelDrift said:
Sudden increase in cards on the market will drive all prices down, even those that weren't used for mining.
Sure, but I can't imagine many people that weren't mining will be getting rid of the top dog card any time soon, right, even if (or even espeically if) the prices do crash. If crypto goes down the pan [again] I'd say it would be a pretty safe bet that 99% of the cards that then flood the market would be mining cards, and I just trust any seller claiming otherwise.
I don't think a mining card would bother me much, they're usually undervolted and aren't running hot. My 3070 is mining right now at a pretty steady 48 degrees and a 40% fan speed, whereas when I game it's way up in the 70s with the fan going mad. I don't know if the data would support it, but I'd love to know if a lot of intensive gaming is any better or worse for the card than 24/7 undervolted, relatively cool mining.
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