Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight

[Lucas Ayde]

At some point, an enterprising type will come out with a dedicated, mass produced, cryptomining chip that should be price-competitive with repurposed consumer GPUs - That's probably the best bet for lower GPU prices.

That, or a massive crypto crash of course that would make miners want to liquidate some of their no longer cost-effective hardware for ready cash.

[loudlashadjuster]

It’s bonkers. I sold a year-old 1650 for £210, £70 more than I paid for it, and it mined about £20 worth of btc.

[bungz]

Managed to flog a 3 and a half year old RX580 for 350 quid to pay for a vanilla 3060 I managed to get my hands on last week.

Not bad as the 580 was only 100ish when I bought it.

No way would have paid 450 for a boggo 3060 otherwise, though it is fairly rapid its a midrange card at best.

Was after a Ti but they impossible to get hold of.

Took a month of twitter following to get the drop on a load of cards from Scan.

Thing is now my 2600 is a fairly big bottleneck

Oh well will do for now.

[FourWheelDrift]

Lucas Ayde said:

The GPU market really is crazy at the moment .... Unfortunately I'm looking to get a 3070/3080 to actually utilise my new G9 monitor properly and it's virtually impossible to find any except at extreme scalper prices on eBay.

Preference is being made for prebuilts so order a new prebuilt with the card you want, receive it. Take card out and use it in your machine, sell all the rest for parts.

See here, RTX 3080 basic build with as little included as possible (cheapest case, CPU, Mobo, RAM) apart from a nice new modular 850w PSU. Everything for £1397 (£300 less than just 3080s on their own are going for on Ebay)

Sell the Ryzen 3 3100 for £80+
Sell the Asus Prime mobo for ~ £60
Sell the 4GB RAM for ~ £15.

Means you are getting an RTX 3080 & Corsair RMx 850w PSU for £1242. The PSU is worth £120 so you show me where you can get an RTX 3080 right now for £1,122.

Click for bigness


Just find out what their build time is. Other PC builders are available.

[HM-2]

I've been genuinely contemplating an entirely unnecessary 3090 as its the only card that's going remotely close to its RRP, or which there ever seems to be stock for. I have found that the waterblocked cards tend to hang around a bit longer, likely because miners can't be arsed with building custom loops, which suits me just fine.

[FourWheelDrift]

^ Then again you could make money by then selling the RTX 3080 for £1600+ on Ebay and the PSU for £120.

[mmm-five]

FourWheelDrift said:

Just find out what their build time is. Other PC builders are available.

Build time for anything with an RTX3080 from PCS is over 3 months at the moment, and won't change unless supply/demand changes. Some users in the PCS forums are only now getting their orders from November built (104 working days since ordering).

The only 'pre-built' PCS system currently available direct from PCS has a 5700XT in it.

There are some pre-built PCS computers at Very or Currys/PCWorld though - but the cheapest 'actually' available seems to be a Tornado R7X with a 5800X and RTX3080 @ £1949.

The problem with the PCW/Very PCS pre-builts, is they tend to use bare minimum cases (PCS own brand, or other £60 one), motherboards (B450/B550), non-modular PSUs (Corsair CV450 or such) RAM (3000mhz) and SSDs (1500mbps m.2).

Edited by mmm-five on Thursday 8th April 16:54

[Steven_RW]

mmm-five said:

The problem with the PCW/Very PCS pre-builts, is they tend to use bare minimum cases (PCS own brand, or other £60 one), motherboards (B450/B550), non-modular PSUs (Corsair CV450 or such) RAM (3000mhz) and SSDs (1500mbps m.2).

It's hard to imagine any 3080 equipped maching coming with anything less than 750w psu.

RW

[mmm-five]

Steven_RW said:

It's hard to imagine any 3080 equipped maching coming with anything less than 750w psu.

RW

That's what you'd hope - but the specs aren't listed, so you won't know until you get it - although you could obviously just return it if it does have a crap PSU in there.

[Lucas Ayde]

bungz said:

Managed to flog a 3 and a half year old RX580 for 350 quid to pay for a vanilla 3060 I managed to get my hands on last week.

Not bad as the 580 was only 100ish when I bought it.

No way would have paid 450 for a boggo 3060 otherwise, though it is fairly rapid its a midrange card at best.

Was after a Ti but they impossible to get hold of.

Took a month of twitter following to get the drop on a load of cards from Scan.

Thing is now my 2600 is a fairly big bottleneck

Oh well will do for now.

I've been following PartAlert in the hope of getting a 3070 or 3080FE card from Scan (ie. Nvidia direct sale) and a 3070FE drop came up a few days ago but despite being on my computer at the time (I have set my phone to Alert on the tweets) by the time I had clicked on the link and went through the CAPTCHAs, no more left.

Disheartening, as I could see the product order page there for a 3070FE but obviously they had all gone in the 2 mins or so it had taken me to get there since there was no option to buy...... The page did not exist before the drop and isn't there now so it just goes up whenever there is a drop.

3070 is about as low powered as I will go (a G9 is going to take quite a bit of GPU muscle to drive at anything near its potential in games) and whilst I would consider a 6800/6800XT Radeon, AMD don't seem to be making their direct sales available to the UK. Stuff from third party card makers on Amazon goes pretty much instantly too.

I wonder if NVidia/AMD will refresh their lineups with slightly less crypto-friendly releases? For sure, they need to bump the memory at the 3070 level to at least 10gigs and the 3080 should have at least 12 so that would be a good pretext for a brand new line of cards with maybe some modifications added and new drivers needed, old models discontinued. I think they could lock the cards to stop them working on PCIe risers which would make them a lot less attractive for commercial mining whilst still allowing 'regular' users to mine with their single card if they really wanted.

[thatsprettyshady]

Got an email from Chillblast yesterday saying that they have RTX 30xx cards in for their prebuilt stuff. They're pretty good in my experience.

[knitware]

dapprman said:

Out of interest how much were they at launch and how much did they say they 'should' be going for a couple of months back when it was inferred the original price was too low? I thought it was ~£1K/£1.2K respectively which makes that one hell of a mark up (and I do suspect Scan, Overclockers, et al. themselves are being stung by wholesalers/suppliers.

I paid £1440 for an MSI RTX 3090 OC in December. I'm shocked at the prices,I haven't looked since buying.

[Steven_RW]

thatsprettyshady said:

Got an email from Chillblast yesterday saying that they have RTX 30xx cards in for their prebuilt stuff. They're pretty good in my experience.

I just quoted up the most basic AMD build with a RM850x psu and a nvidia 3080. £1,643.51

I just worry that the bits are so basic that you wouldn't really get any traction selling them on e-bay as I only want the 3080 not the rest at all.

RW

[FourWheelDrift]

Steven_RW said:

I just quoted up the most basic AMD build with a RM850x psu and a nvidia 3080. £1,643.51

I just worry that the bits are so basic that you wouldn't really get any traction selling them on e-bay as I only want the 3080 not the rest at all.

RW

Search Ebay for the components you don't need (to sell) then with results up click on Advanced top right next to the blue search button and select "Sold listings" then search at the bottom of the options. It'll list all sold prices for those components. Check and see what prices they have been selling for. All green prices are sold.

[RichTT]

I've given up on getting a proper gaming rig this side of Christmas so I've put my spending money towards a bike upgrade and will try and build a £1k machine for general use. But even a GTX 1650 is going for between £300-£400 which is ridiculous.

[westtra]

Lucas Ayde said:

I've been following PartAlert in the hope of getting a 3070 or 3080FE card from Scan (ie. Nvidia direct sale) and a 3070FE drop came up a few days ago but despite being on my computer at the time (I have set my phone to Alert on the tweets) by the time I had clicked on the link and went through the CAPTCHAs, no more left.

Disheartening, as I could see the product order page there for a 3070FE but obviously they had all gone in the 2 mins or so it had taken me to get there since there was no option to buy...... The page did not exist before the drop and isn't there now so it just goes up whenever there is a drop.

3070 is about as low powered as I will go (a G9 is going to take quite a bit of GPU muscle to drive at anything near its potential in games) and whilst I would consider a 6800/6800XT Radeon, AMD don't seem to be making their direct sales available to the UK. Stuff from third party card makers on Amazon goes pretty much instantly too.

I wonder if NVidia/AMD will refresh their lineups with slightly less crypto-friendly releases? For sure, they need to bump the memory at the 3070 level to at least 10gigs and the 3080 should have at least 12 so that would be a good pretext for a brand new line of cards with maybe some modifications added and new drivers needed, old models discontinued. I think they could lock the cards to stop them working on PCIe risers which would make them a lot less attractive for commercial mining whilst still allowing 'regular' users to mine with their single card if they really wanted.

Keep an eye out for the 3060 from them. Get the captch done and keep that window open.

This means if the 3070/3080 deops your straight to payment no captcha. How I got my 3080 when there was a 3070 drop first.

[silobass]

There's a Discord channel that can alert you for graphics cards (and other parts). It's https://discord.com/channels/768363408109469697/77... if you are interested. You can set the alerts you're interested in up and it will pop up. I got my 3070FE like this without having to pay over the odds for it.

edit to say: They don't drop all the time of course but if you're by your pc or phone and really want one it's doesn't hurt to keep an eye on things. I think the last FE editions were quite a while ago now but the other brand ones pop up fairly regularly if you have the budget and are quick enough. As others have said, making sure you're logged into the site in advance will help with speed.

Edited by silobass on Friday 9th April 08:29

[Lucas Ayde]

silobass said:

There's a Discord channel that can alert you for graphics cards (and other parts). It's https://discord.com/channels/768363408109469697/77... if you are interested. You can set the alerts you're interested in up and it will pop up. I got my 3070FE like this without having to pay over the odds for it.

edit to say: They don't drop all the time of course but if you're by your pc or phone and really want one it's doesn't hurt to keep an eye on things. I think the last FE editions were quite a while ago now but the other brand ones pop up fairly regularly if you have the budget and are quick enough. As others have said, making sure you're logged into the site in advance will help with speed.

Edited by silobass on Friday 9th April 08:29

Thanks - but the link doesn't seem to work, I just get a blank discord page.

As for budget, my personal opinion that up to 600 quid is 'fair' for 3070s and up to 800 quid for 3080 cards, given supply and demand. Judging by ebay prices though, the market values them higher

[Steven_RW]

Lucas Ayde said:

As for budget, my personal opinion that up to 600 quid is 'fair' for 3070s and up to 800 quid for 3080 cards, given supply and demand. Judging by ebay prices though, the market values them higher

Yes, it would appear you are a long distance and time away from owning either of those cards :-).

Good luck.

PS - enough thinking about it and enough man maths and before you know it, £900 and £1600 will seem like sensible prices.

RW

[Lucas Ayde]

westtra said:

Keep an eye out for the 3060 from them. Get the captch done and keep that window open.

This means if the 3070/3080 deops your straight to payment no captcha. How I got my 3080 when there was a 3070 drop first.

Good tip - thanks.