Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight

[scottyp123]

Lucas Ayde said:

scottyp123 said:

I don't even know what a founder edition is to be honest, I did think it was a card produced by the actual chip manufacturer and not someone like Pallitt or Zotac. I also remember reading a while ago about FE cards being noisy and hot compared to other makes because they all had a single fan, it was the one to stay away from from what I recall.

The Founders Edition cards are made by NVidia themselves. They are sold to the public through a single distributor per country, in the UK's case this is Scan. There are restrictions in that there is one FE card per customer - ever - and they do extra checks aimed at stopping scalpers which have lead to people's purchases being rejected.

It used to be that the FE cards were a little bit more expensive than the rest and made in only a limited run. However, with the craziness of this generation it appears that NVidia have decided to keep making them in order to provide a source of cards priced at RRP. The FE card variants are 3060Ti, 3070, 3070Ti, 3080Ti and 3090 - there is no 3060FE. The actual quality of the cards is really good - very good aesthetics, very solid construction, good cooler design .. IMO they are generally a better package than the third party cards except for those who want to do extreme overclocking.

However, there's no way that NVidia can make enough of them to meet demand so you get batches turning up 'at random' about once per month per card. Sometimes you get a drop of 2 or 3 different FE cards on the same day.

Demand for 3080 and lower is super-high and the cards tend to go in minutes. The more expensive 3080Ti and 3090 variants will stick around for sale a bit longer but still will be gone within an hour or two.

The only way you are going to get one is to either write something to monitor Nvidia's site directly (NVidea will put a link up which sends you to Scan when the cards are in stock) or find an alert service that tells you. Partalert is the best one I have found - it's how I got my 3070FE. They have twitter and telegram but telegram tends to be a couple of minutes quicker which makes all the difference. They also have a discord but got so overloaded that they stopped new members a while back. Not sure if that is still in effect.

Cheers that's what I pretty much thought although I was under the impression the FE was the worst of the bunch. As I also assumed its a wild goose chase to get one then so as per above I've bit the bullet and ordered a 3080ti from Amazon today.

[HRL]

Previous generations the FE were blower cards, noisy, not great overclockers, etc. However this time around they’re actually well priced, by comparison, and very efficient and well built.

[scottyp123]

HRL said:

Previous generations the FE were blower cards, noisy, not great overclockers, etc. However this time around they’re actually well priced, by comparison, and very efficient and well built.

Thats where I got it from, I remember the words blower fan now being rubbish.

[FourWheelDrift]

scottyp123 said:

HRL said:

Previous generations the FE were blower cards, noisy, not great overclockers, etc. However this time around they’re actually well priced, by comparison, and very efficient and well built.

Thats where I got it from, I remember the words blower fan now being rubbish.

Gigabyte actually make a 3090 blower - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-nvidia-ge... which I slot neatly into the same category of heat and inefficiency as the ones you find in Dell (alienware), Acer, HP and Lenovo gaming machines.

[scottyp123]

anonymous said:

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So near yet so far, its the back yard air bnb thats in Harrow, the container is in Manchester.

[scottyp123]

It was your one and only post on an obscure computer thread about graphics cards, and it was off topic. How did you stumble across the thread?

[DoubleSix]

ouch!

[Narcisus]

scottyp123 said:

It was your one and only post on an obscure computer thread about graphics cards, and it was off topic. How did you stumble across the thread?

Obscure computer thread ! 96 ####### pages I’ll have you know !

I wish when we created a thread we had the option of banning certain posters

[Steven_RW]

HM-2 said:

scottyp123 said:

bloomen said:

I think 1300 - 1400 ish is rrp for many third party 3080tis.

That's why you can buy plenty right now. They're mediocre value compared to the much rarer stuff.

A couple of people have said they're not worth it but a 3080 is only slightly less and is slower but a 3090 is about £2000 and not that much better from what I can see. The 3080ti looks the pick of the bunch to me.

For gaming use, the 3080ti is 99% as good as the 3090. It's also pick of the bunch for me, I've had one in my basket at couple of times but upgrading processor and motherboard took priority. I'm a bit picky as I want a big chonky non reference board as the tiny reference ones are going to look silly water blocked in my huge O11D XL.

I have a 3090 FE with a EKWB ltd edition waterblock. Active backplate should arrive in a couple of weeks. All in a 011 Dynamic XL. Doesn't look too bad. I have a waterblocked Zotact Arctic storm 2080ti sitting next to it. All the fat radiators and the two gpus keep the case full. Your call and YMMV :-)

[FourWheelDrift]

Scan will be selling 30xx cards in store on the 11th September, at MSRP, limited stock and you need to register.

https://twitter.com/ScanComputers/status/143486543...

And live near Bolton.

[aparna]

I wonder what percentage of limited edition/FE cards sell at near MSRP?

And how many words on the internet are spilt talking up these few cards.

Genius marketing. I bet it drives up the prices of scan's scalper cards nicely.

[mmm-five]

aparna said:

I wonder what percentage of limited edition/FE cards sell at near MSRP?

And how many words on the internet are spilt talking up these few cards.

Genius marketing. I bet it drives up the prices of scan's scalper cards nicely.

As far as I know, the FE cards cannot be sold (by Scan) for anything above than the MSRP/RRP. I've only bought one (my 3080Ti FE) and it was at RRP.

Not sure what you mean by 'limited edition' GPUs though, as they're all limited supply as far as I can tell - whether that's an artificial limit or not I couldn't say

All the other AIB manufacturer cards are fair game I suppose, as it will be up to Scan (and the other resellers) as to what extra profit margin they think the market will support. At the moment it seems like they get so little that they can charge what they want, so unless people stop buying them at these prices and leave them sitting on expensive stock, then they're unlikely to change.

[Sporky]

I got my non-FE 3070ti from Scan at a pretty sensible price. They bundled it with an SSD which I've made far of; ming that into account the price was fine. Certainly not scalper territory.

[RacerMike]

Paid RRP (£1300) for my 3090 FE card from Scan. They're re-selling on ebay for a lot more than that, but those people won't be able to buy another FE card from Scan afterwards. You'll be pleased to know mine is happily sat in my PC running iRacing and ACC.

[scottyp123]

Right I've got the card today (3080ti) and the PC boots ok and I've downloaded the latest driver, flight simulator also loads but as soon as I go into VR the PC shuts down and re-boots within a few seconds.

Will it be an inadequate power supply, its an old 600W one. I thought I might need a new one anyway to be fair. The processor is an i7 8700k overclocked, 32Gb ram a mechanical hard drive and a NVME drive. also a few fans.

[anonymous-user]

Are other games crashing, and what about flight simulator outside vr?

Also, mechanical drives inside a PC are the devil. No matter the brand used they would st a brick and crash a PC of mine. Good fking riddance (since 2014 for me). Is the mechanical driver running the game or OS, or neither?

Edited by F20CN16 on Monday 6th September 17:35

[scottyp123]

Not really tried anything else yet flight sim seems to load ok on 2D but I know VR puts the most stress on the graphics card, it run fine on a 1080ti.

I've just ordered a 850w power supply anyway to try it, the one I've got must be nearly 10 years old now.

[anonymous-user]

Bloody hell I just looked at the recommended power supply for a 3080 Ti - 750W. That’ll be it then, probably.

[scottyp123]

F20CN16 said:

Bloody hell I just looked at the recommended power supply for a 3080 Ti - 750W. That’ll be it then, probably.

Thats what I saw as well but I thought they always over spec things so it might be ok, obviously not. Comes to something when a gaming PC is allowed to consume more than a vacuum cleaner.

[HRL]

scottyp123 said:

Not really tried anything else yet flight sim seems to load ok on 2D but I know VR puts the most stress on the graphics card, it run fine on a 1080ti.

I've just ordered a 850w power supply anyway to try it, the one I've got must be nearly 10 years old now.

I’m surprised your 600W hasn’t died. They recommend a minimum 750W for the 3080Ti and I’ve heard of weird spikes in excess of that with the 3080-3090.