Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight
Discussion
HRL said:
They’re currently in the process of adjusting the EU pricing, U.K. pricing is increasing across the range of 3 series cards too.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-raises-eu...RTX 3070 FE, new price quoted as 549 Euros which is £459.59, up from £434 (519 Euros). I paid £469 for my 3070 FE from Scan.
RTX 3080 FE, new price quoted as 759 Euros which is £635.39, up from £601 (719 Euros) Still less than the £649 Scan MSRP for the FE.
Reductions across the board surely?
Ebay sold prices of RTX 3080 Ti FE cards has dropped a lot from what it used to be (£1600-£1800), to now selling barely over £1200 to £1300, some people with Ebay's 12.8% sellers fee will be making a loss on their attempted fast turnaround.
Recent sold prices - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_n...
Recent sold prices - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_n...
Crypto going down is good news I suppose?
Even if people won’t sell (who wants a ragged mining GPU unless it’s cheap?), new supply can all go to normal users.
Plus supply/demand sorting itself out.
And a 40 series arriving at some point.
I’m sure nvidia won’t disappear any time soon, but they’re leaving the door open for competitors by leaving so much market share/demand unfulfilled.
Even if people won’t sell (who wants a ragged mining GPU unless it’s cheap?), new supply can all go to normal users.
Plus supply/demand sorting itself out.
And a 40 series arriving at some point.
I’m sure nvidia won’t disappear any time soon, but they’re leaving the door open for competitors by leaving so much market share/demand unfulfilled.
TSMC and Sony are spending $7 billion on a new fabrication plant in Japan, Samsung are spending $17 billion on a new plant in Texas and Intel is spending $20 billion on two new plants in Arizona. Texas Instruments spending up to $30 billion on semiconductor fabrication plant in Texas. TSMC has already been building a new $12 billion plant in Arizona (started last June). The US Senate has offered $54 billion on subsidies for plant construction. TSMC announced in April 2021 a $100 billion investment plan over the next three years to increase capacity.
TSMC has plans for 6 plants in the USA - https://www.notebookcheck.net/TSMC-reportedly-plan...
And in the last few days another $20 billion Intel fabrication plant in Ohio - https://time.com/6140476/intel-building-factory-oh...
Not only increasing world production but taking it away from being dependent on China.
TSMC has plans for 6 plants in the USA - https://www.notebookcheck.net/TSMC-reportedly-plan...
And in the last few days another $20 billion Intel fabrication plant in Ohio - https://time.com/6140476/intel-building-factory-oh...
Not only increasing world production but taking it away from being dependent on China.
Donbot said:
Yeah, that's strategic long term investment. They've been making moves to set this up for a while now. It isn't a response to current short-term shortages of graphics cards.
Yes but the point is demand has been a shock. WFH, crypto mining etc.And supply is ramping from the other side.
Obviously this is all part and parcel of natural supply/demand oscillations… but there is a big hard flip back due.
Supply will always ramp to fulfil demand.
The idea that Nvidia could just cut production by half and then up prices by three times, to add vast profits, wouldn’t be countered by competition is nonsense.
Yes it takes time, but we’re two years into this now.
Gaps are gaps. It might not be their fault but it’s an opportunity to lose market share they might not get back.
I’ve been an nvidia guy since the one ati card I had in about 2002.
Before that it was nvidia, then 3dfx.
I’ve been looking at AMD/ATI a lot because I just can’t get an nvidia card… the only thing stopping me is cuda on some older software and some legacy iRay stuff on nvidia.
They haven't cut their supply by half. They've sold roughly the same number of cards as previous years. If Nvidia and/or AMD are making moves to ramp up production I haven't heard about it. And it would be a big gamble for them in response to (probably) temporary high demand.
We're kind of arguing two sides of the same coin here.
If there is a massive ramping up of graphics card production that's a good thing. I have no vested interest in high prices. And I really don't care what happens with AMD or Nvidia either.
We're kind of arguing two sides of the same coin here.
If there is a massive ramping up of graphics card production that's a good thing. I have no vested interest in high prices. And I really don't care what happens with AMD or Nvidia either.
CCL have GPUs in stock - https://www.cclonline.com/category/430/PC-Componen...
AWT have GPUs in stock - https://www.awd-it.co.uk/components/graphics-cards...
AWT have GPUs in stock - https://www.awd-it.co.uk/components/graphics-cards...
They are overpriced but there's 3080s in stock which is what I have been tracking.
3080 for £1,099 - https://www.cclonline.com/product/354733/GV-N3080G...
The fact any are in stock is good, Scan haven't had any for quite a while now (excluding FE models)
3080 for £1,099 - https://www.cclonline.com/product/354733/GV-N3080G...
The fact any are in stock is good, Scan haven't had any for quite a while now (excluding FE models)
Donbot said:
They haven't cut their supply by half. They've sold roughly the same number of cards as previous years. If Nvidia and/or AMD are making moves to ramp up production I haven't heard about it. And it would be a big gamble for them in response to (probably) temporary high demand.
We're kind of arguing two sides of the same coin here.
If there is a massive ramping up of graphics card production that's a good thing. I have no vested interest in high prices. And I really don't care what happens with AMD or Nvidia either.
I didn’t say they cut their supply by half.We're kind of arguing two sides of the same coin here.
If there is a massive ramping up of graphics card production that's a good thing. I have no vested interest in high prices. And I really don't care what happens with AMD or Nvidia either.
The point was if they did, to cut supply and enable high demand to boost price per unit sold in excess of the cut… it’d simply leave a gap in the market.
Gaps in markets get filled… and one way or another nvidia have left a gaping hole because crypto miners came in and paid daft prices for kit… and it’s leaving them vulnerable to their core market going elsewhere and then not coming back for a good while.
Anyhow it all seems it’s just been a two years of crap, and summer 2022 onwards will see a gpu utopia…
New cards from nvidia, amd, Intel, and lots of supply, and with crypto crashing and so many people having bought, I can see great deals and choices coming.
Definitely excited to see if we can get even more efficient power as I’d like a 4k 60hz machine for the lounge running in a hdplex case.
Mr Whippy said:
Anyhow it all seems it’s just been a two years of crap, and summer 2022 onwards will see a gpu utopia…
New cards from nvidia, amd, Intel, and lots of supply, and with crypto crashing and so many people having bought, I can see great deals and choices coming.
Hopefully. I'm still looking at upgrading my ancient 1070 but absolutely refuse to buy at current prices. I just want to get the most out of my Rift S before moving on in the VR world , a 3070 would suit it nicely before a system upgrade (Overclocked i5 9600k). I guess we all had these plans of upgrading but as you say two years of crap and I'm rapidly losing interest as I daresay many folk are. New cards from nvidia, amd, Intel, and lots of supply, and with crypto crashing and so many people having bought, I can see great deals and choices coming.
My house PC is still running an i5-2500k. I replaced the very old Radeon 5850 in it with a 5500XT in November 2020.
I've got another old Dell i5 waiting to replace an Intel NUC i5 in the garage - I've been after a 1650/1660 (or maybe a 1070) as I use it for Zwift. That's OpenGL based, so I believe nVidia is the choice over AMD. I'm not paying the current mad money for one though.
I've got another old Dell i5 waiting to replace an Intel NUC i5 in the garage - I've been after a 1650/1660 (or maybe a 1070) as I use it for Zwift. That's OpenGL based, so I believe nVidia is the choice over AMD. I'm not paying the current mad money for one though.
RTX 3050 in stock £349 - https://www.cclonline.com/category/430/PC-Componen...
Can't see any at Scan, Ebuyer, AWD or Box.
Can't see any at Scan, Ebuyer, AWD or Box.
Digger said:
Wrong thread to ask on, but do we believe that VR will go the way of 3D? I believe so.
VR will have to be holographic or anaglyph, or similar image splitting tech, at a screen or something, to be really practical.You can’t live with a headset on.
I remember playing a VR game at Meadowhall shopping centre in 1995 or something, it’s still a gaming kinda niche for 99% of todays users I’d say.
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