Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight
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It’s definitely getting a little easier to get an FE card but there are still some people on OCUK that have been trying to get one for more than a year and still haven’t.
The AIB cards are indeed starting to drop in price but IMO, the FE cards are still the pick of the bunch, certainly in regards to value for money anyway.
Expect the next gen cards to drop in September but god only knows how easy it will be to buy one of those, or whether the prices are going to sky rocket. We shall see.
The AIB cards are indeed starting to drop in price but IMO, the FE cards are still the pick of the bunch, certainly in regards to value for money anyway.
Expect the next gen cards to drop in September but god only knows how easy it will be to buy one of those, or whether the prices are going to sky rocket. We shall see.
HRL said:
It’s definitely getting a little easier to get an FE card but there are still some people on OCUK that have been trying to get one for more than a year and still haven’t.
The AIB cards are indeed starting to drop in price but IMO, the FE cards are still the pick of the bunch, certainly in regards to value for money anyway.
Expect the next gen cards to drop in September but god only knows how easy it will be to buy one of those, or whether the prices are going to sky rocket. We shall see.
A lot depends on Crypto mining. Bitcoin has slumped quite a bit from recent highs but is holding around $38k-ish. It's basically a support level - could bounce back higher and start an upward trend again or could drop quite a bit. You can't mine bitcoin any more on GPUs (you need quite a bit more power to get coins in time to see a return on investment) but all the other cryptos (many of which are mine-able on GPUs and which create the demand) basically follow it and are generally slumping too.The AIB cards are indeed starting to drop in price but IMO, the FE cards are still the pick of the bunch, certainly in regards to value for money anyway.
Expect the next gen cards to drop in September but god only knows how easy it will be to buy one of those, or whether the prices are going to sky rocket. We shall see.
I think that the FE cards are the best all around - cheaper than the RRPs on third party cards, MUCH cheaper than the actual street price (even now) and incredibly well made. Seriously, I think my 3070FE is like a work of art, super design and contruction.
You just have to be quite determined to get one and a bit lucky to boot.
Let’s see.
I can’t see 40 series being daft pricing because with shops filling up with stock, it’ll be a game of lowering prices to get sales.
With AMD, Intel and Nvidia dropping new kit in autumn there is going to be plenty of competition on prices.
Worst case it’ll be similar to the current 30 series which will be two years old.
Obviously if we get renewed disruption it’ll cause issues on supply.
But demand side is surely going to cool with broad inflation and no free money.
I can’t see 40 series being daft pricing because with shops filling up with stock, it’ll be a game of lowering prices to get sales.
With AMD, Intel and Nvidia dropping new kit in autumn there is going to be plenty of competition on prices.
Worst case it’ll be similar to the current 30 series which will be two years old.
Obviously if we get renewed disruption it’ll cause issues on supply.
But demand side is surely going to cool with broad inflation and no free money.
RTX 3080 Ti FE - £1,049
Aria selling the Palit Gamerock RTX 3080 Ti for £1199.99 - https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphic... - "Only 3 are available."
Currently the cheapest non FE 3080 Ti model for sale and the closest to MSRP of any 3000 series card, which was high in the first place for the Ti.
Aria selling the Palit Gamerock RTX 3080 Ti for £1199.99 - https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphic... - "Only 3 are available."
Currently the cheapest non FE 3080 Ti model for sale and the closest to MSRP of any 3000 series card, which was high in the first place for the Ti.
The Telegram FE alerts for a German retailer had some cards available for up to an hour until I stopped re-checking.
If there is an hour wide window that’s quite reassuring.
Also I note more models for sale.
Scan had over 75 versions of 30 series cards available yesterday, so at least 75 cards, I’d assume hundreds of them to buy because low stock models are flagged under 5 or so cards.
I also note that eBay buy it now prices on used FE are dropping steadily with time.
Ok it’s still maybe £150 premium for a 3080 FE used, vs new, if you get a good deal, but that’s not terrible all considered.
I’ll be needing a GPU for my new lounge PC. If I can’t get an FE I’ll probably try for a used one on eBay, and if no joy there at a good price I’ll be going for some utter junk just to tide me over.
I can play emulators of old games haha.
If there is an hour wide window that’s quite reassuring.
Also I note more models for sale.
Scan had over 75 versions of 30 series cards available yesterday, so at least 75 cards, I’d assume hundreds of them to buy because low stock models are flagged under 5 or so cards.
I also note that eBay buy it now prices on used FE are dropping steadily with time.
Ok it’s still maybe £150 premium for a 3080 FE used, vs new, if you get a good deal, but that’s not terrible all considered.
I’ll be needing a GPU for my new lounge PC. If I can’t get an FE I’ll probably try for a used one on eBay, and if no joy there at a good price I’ll be going for some utter junk just to tide me over.
I can play emulators of old games haha.
I've had a saved search for 3080TI FE cards on eBay for a while. It seems like the cards that are selling are going up at 1250-ish for unopened ones (there is a used one at 1160 that's been sat a few days) and there are some at 1400+ that have been listed for ages, including one at 2500 (wtf?)
I was worried about the 4000 series but if the cost of electricity keeps going up there will be no demand for mining in the UK.
I was worried about the 4000 series but if the cost of electricity keeps going up there will be no demand for mining in the UK.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=olXcwUhnUmw
Last bit on GPU prices is interesting.
And the Intel GPU arriving soon.
I can see 30 series sitting on shelves and not being able to be moved with 3 new manufacturer generations coming, if they keep prices too high.
I can see some panic selling on eBay coming and a glut of GPUs.
Always happens though. You’ll never get a soft landing on supply/demand shocks, it went extreme one way, now we’re about to see the opposite end.
£200 for a 2080Ti by autumn I bet.
Last bit on GPU prices is interesting.
And the Intel GPU arriving soon.
I can see 30 series sitting on shelves and not being able to be moved with 3 new manufacturer generations coming, if they keep prices too high.
I can see some panic selling on eBay coming and a glut of GPUs.
Always happens though. You’ll never get a soft landing on supply/demand shocks, it went extreme one way, now we’re about to see the opposite end.
£200 for a 2080Ti by autumn I bet.
Currently seeing KFA2 overclocked 3080ti's in stock at overclockers at £1099.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2-geforce-rtx-30...
That seems like a pretty stonking deal.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2-geforce-rtx-30...
That seems like a pretty stonking deal.
KFA2 branded = Galax
So here's the Galax branded review - https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/galax-gefo...
It's the weird one that comes with a 4th fan you can put on the backplate.
So here's the Galax branded review - https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/galax-gefo...
It's the weird one that comes with a 4th fan you can put on the backplate.
Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 18th March 23:34
Steven_RW said:
Mr Whippy said:
£200 for a 2080Ti by autumn I bet.
I'm hoping it will be a cold day in hell before they are worth £200 each, on the basis they are comparable with a 3070.Let's see.
But aside from crypto demand which could crumble away any time for various reasons, the value proposition for these older cards now is difficult to justify.
My old GTX760 was about 4x slower than my GTX1070 but used more power and created a ton more heat and noise.
They’re comprehensively improved upon by the 10 series, and we’re rightly pretty much worthless paperweights.
The next gen RT cards are going to make 20 series almost undesirable, as anyone who wants RT will have two whole newer better gens to pick from.
Or they can get much cheaper 1080Ti type cards for a whole load less money and just run non-RT.
I think the 20 series are going to end up bunched in with the 10 series from a pricing pov as the RT perf just isn’t there.
I’m feeling proof of work crypto becoming highly undesirable with the whole oil/gas/energy situation, and GPUs getting dumped and prices crashing.
Eth is already planning for this shift, so all it needs is a real push now abs it’s happening.
Just bought a RTX 3050 for £280 as I've completely had enough of my 2GB 960. The price is annoying but I guess that's how it is at the minute.
I'm just concerned that with China back into widespread lockdowns we could see serious supply shortages again.
As least if prices do go the other way and I can get a RTX 3080 for peanuts later in the year it will be a cheap upgrade.
I'm just concerned that with China back into widespread lockdowns we could see serious supply shortages again.
As least if prices do go the other way and I can get a RTX 3080 for peanuts later in the year it will be a cheap upgrade.
Just an FYi if anyone has a brown themed system, Scan have the RTX 3070 Noctua edition in stock - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-nvidia-geforc...
Haha, the noctua card is baffling.
Is the heat sink just huge too? Because it’s a stupidly thick card.
My de-shrouded 1070oc Strix (170W TDP) has 2 NF A140 on it, it’s under-volted at stock clocks, and with the fans idling at 750rpm it won’t go over 50degC in a torture test.
I can’t see why you’d buy the card vs a DIY de-shroud… unless it’s also got the mother of all heat sinks underneath… but if it has there is every chance it’s just superfluous for need?
Is the heat sink just huge too? Because it’s a stupidly thick card.
My de-shrouded 1070oc Strix (170W TDP) has 2 NF A140 on it, it’s under-volted at stock clocks, and with the fans idling at 750rpm it won’t go over 50degC in a torture test.
I can’t see why you’d buy the card vs a DIY de-shroud… unless it’s also got the mother of all heat sinks underneath… but if it has there is every chance it’s just superfluous for need?
Donbot said:
Just bought a RTX 3050 for £280 as I've completely had enough of my 2GB 960. The price is annoying but I guess that's how it is at the minute.
I'm just concerned that with China back into widespread lockdowns we could see serious supply shortages again.
As least if prices do go the other way and I can get a RTX 3080 for peanuts later in the year it will be a cheap upgrade.
I'm just concerned that with China back into widespread lockdowns we could see serious supply shortages again.
As least if prices do go the other way and I can get a RTX 3080 for peanuts later in the year it will be a cheap upgrade.
RTX 3050 at £280 is decent VFM. I paid something like £270 for a 6gig 1060 back in the day when it was the most popular entry level gamers GPU and the 3050 is definitely an nice bump over that (of course, given it's much newer you would expect it to be better).
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