Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight

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stevesingo

4,858 posts

223 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
Looking just at Graphics scores I've found I'm 74th in the world out of 2285 on Time Spy Extreme for my system. I should probably look at my CPU, I have only ever used Ryzen Master Auto-OC which gave me a new 4.75Ghz boost over stock 4.6.

This is the best description I've seen for PBO and undervolting.

What I did (5600X):

1. Find the thermal capacity of my cooling. If you think you may be limited on on cooling (Ryzen 5 starts reducing clocks above 65degC, so aim for that).

a. Set PBO boost override to the max and power limits to motherboard and run Cinebench all core (10mins). If you are above temps where you are comfortable, dial down the PPT so you run where you are at a temp you are comfortable with.

b. What ever you logged as peak EDC/TDC at your target PPT/Temp enter those values in the BIOS.

c. Make a note of clock speeds

2. Undervolt by core.

a. In the BIOS, choose a core (1) and undervolt by -10.

b. Open Cinebench.

c. Open task manager, find the cinebench process and right click. click details and this will give you your service for cinebench.

d. Rght click the cinebench service and click affinity. This will give you the threads. 0&1=core 1, 2&3=core 2 etc etc.

3. Run Cinebench (10mins) single core and immediately switch to the service affinity and deselect all threads other than those associated with the core. If stable, undervolt by -2 and repeat until you get a crash. When it crashes add 4.

4. Rinse and repeat for all cores.




Lucas Ayde

3,567 posts

169 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
3090 Ti UK price slashed to £1,149 (limited time only it says) yes, because it's going to come down again next month. wink

https://store.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/?page...

In stock still along with 3080 Ti and 3070 Ti models.
A year ago it would have been unthinkable to see any RTX30xx FE cards hang around ... they were all being snapped up within an hour of the drop, usually within about 5 mins.

It's notable how the 'VFM' ones are all OoS ... 3060Ti, 3070 and 3080. (There was never a 3060FE)

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Griffith4ever said:
Why? I have a newly purchased 3070 running full "ultra ray tracing" with Quality mode in DLSS for Cyberpunk, without a hint of slow down or jerkiness. I've not measured frame rates, but, I can't see why I should.? Its smooth , so why do i care about the frame rate? 1440p here.
Put simply, because right now I don't think the step-up is worth the cost, and because I intend on moving over to 4K120 which even the 3090 still falls a bit short of providing reliably with all the bells and whistled enabled.

Griffith4ever

4,297 posts

36 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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HM-2 said:
Griffith4ever said:
Why? I have a newly purchased 3070 running full "ultra ray tracing" with Quality mode in DLSS for Cyberpunk, without a hint of slow down or jerkiness. I've not measured frame rates, but, I can't see why I should.? Its smooth , so why do i care about the frame rate? 1440p here.
Put simply, because right now I don't think the step-up is worth the cost, and because I intend on moving over to 4K120 which even the 3090 still falls a bit short of providing reliably with all the bells and whistled enabled.
Yeah, sorry, I misread / misunderstood your post. Makes sense now

FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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stevesingo said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Looking just at Graphics scores I've found I'm 74th in the world out of 2285 on Time Spy Extreme for my system. I should probably look at my CPU, I have only ever used Ryzen Master Auto-OC which gave me a new 4.75Ghz boost over stock 4.6.

This is the best description I've seen for PBO and undervolting.

What I did (5600X):

1. Find the thermal capacity of my cooling. If you think you may be limited on on cooling (Ryzen 5 starts reducing clocks above 65degC, so aim for that).

a. Set PBO boost override to the max and power limits to motherboard and run Cinebench all core (10mins). If you are above temps where you are comfortable, dial down the PPT so you run where you are at a temp you are comfortable with.

b. What ever you logged as peak EDC/TDC at your target PPT/Temp enter those values in the BIOS.

c. Make a note of clock speeds

2. Undervolt by core.

a. In the BIOS, choose a core (1) and undervolt by -10.

b. Open Cinebench.

c. Open task manager, find the cinebench process and right click. click details and this will give you your service for cinebench.

d. Rght click the cinebench service and click affinity. This will give you the threads. 0&1=core 1, 2&3=core 2 etc etc.

3. Run Cinebench (10mins) single core and immediately switch to the service affinity and deselect all threads other than those associated with the core. If stable, undervolt by -2 and repeat until you get a crash. When it crashes add 4.

4. Rinse and repeat for all cores.
That's a lot to do.

Anyhoo I tried just PBO on it's own and got 4100 on Timespy Extreme, an increase of 309 over my original 3791, trouble is my GPU score went down 200 (I might have used the wrong OC profile for it) but that's a good improvement to begin with.

Number 1 in the UK overall,


9th on CPU score only.




Edited by FourWheelDrift on Thursday 8th September 18:26

stevesingo

4,858 posts

223 months

Friday 9th September 2022
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It's worth the improvements, particularly if you have lots of cooling headroom.



I only have a Thermalright APX90 so I'm limited to a PPT of 105W to stay under 70degC on multi core Cinebench for 10 mins.



I reckon you'd be 1st or second in the UK.

FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Friday 9th September 2022
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I am number 1 and 2 already smile check your screenie smile

But I'll try and make some time and have a real fiddle. I did have go with CTR this evening too.

stevesingo

4,858 posts

223 months

Friday 9th September 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
I am number 1 and 2 already smile check your screenie smile

But I'll try and make some time and have a real fiddle. I did have go with CTR this evening too.
Of course, I was looking at my non-LHR results.

CTR didn't provide as good results as manual BIOS over clocking for me.

What cooler do you run?

FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Friday 9th September 2022
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NZXT Z53.

stevesingo

4,858 posts

223 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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You should have plenty of headroom.

FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Now number 100 in the world for my system on Time Spy Extreme overall score.


Sporky

6,345 posts

65 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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I'm number -37.

There's a secret chart above that one.

stevesingo

4,858 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
Now number 100 in the world for my system on Time Spy Extreme overall score.

That's the way.

Does this mean I need to retest this weekend?

FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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I'm running my "Summer" fan curves and only shut down Icue and NZXT Cam (I usually shut down more processes to help the CPU) so I have that and I'll probably set a max fan curve too and see what happens. Still some GPU tweaking too, I'm +115 on the cores and +875 on the memory at the moment.

Narcisus

Original Poster:

8,081 posts

281 months

Sunday 18th September 2022
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Well that leaves a bit of a sour taste …

Nvidia rename 12gb 4070 series to 4080 so they can charge more according to Paul’s Hardware.

If that’s the case I can understand why EVGA have told them to go fk themselves.


FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Sunday 18th September 2022
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There is a 4000 series thread, you started it biggrin

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Narcisus

Original Poster:

8,081 posts

281 months

Sunday 18th September 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
There is a 4000 series thread, you started it biggrin

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Haha oh yeah I forgot ! I’m post viral biggrin

Mr Whippy

29,079 posts

242 months

Sunday 18th September 2022
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Has ETH just gone POS from POW?

Is this going to cause a massive GPU dump?

deckster

9,630 posts

256 months

Sunday 18th September 2022
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Mr Whippy said:
Has ETH just gone POS from POW?

Is this going to cause a massive GPU dump?
Yes and yes (although the second has been happening for some time as for much of the world, it's no longer remotely economic to mine coins due to the cost of electricity).

FourWheelDrift

88,574 posts

285 months

Sunday 18th September 2022
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Mr Whippy said:
Has ETH just gone POS from POW?

Is this going to cause a massive GPU dump?
Yes.