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Received one last week, pretty impressed so far. Had been hoping it would work for tracking puppy, but lack of iPhones in open countryside means I’ll be getting a Vodafone curve for him.
Anyone experienced the ‘starts beeping three days without being in range of user’s phone’ ? I can see the anti stalking benefits, but if I go away for a few days and they start beeping around the house I am not going to be popular!
Anyone experienced the ‘starts beeping three days without being in range of user’s phone’ ? I can see the anti stalking benefits, but if I go away for a few days and they start beeping around the house I am not going to be popular!
shopper150 said:
snuffy said:
Last time we went on holiday we used AirPortr, which was brilliant and worrying at the same time. You get updates about your bags; collected from your house, arrived at the departure airport, cleared security, loaded onto plane, arrived at your destination, loaded on the barrage reclaim carousel and so on.
It's great but when nothing happens for a long period of time you start wondering why nothing is happening.
I’m not sure if I would trust such services. How to you answer the question, has the luggage been out of your sight etc? Could anything have been put into your bag?It's great but when nothing happens for a long period of time you start wondering why nothing is happening.
jimbouk said:
Received one last week, pretty impressed so far. Had been hoping it would work for tracking puppy, but lack of iPhones in open countryside means I’ll be getting a Vodafone curve for him.
Anyone experienced the ‘starts beeping three days without being in range of user’s phone’ ? I can see the anti stalking benefits, but if I go away for a few days and they start beeping around the house I am not going to be popular!
That is the only thing I have potential issues with.Anyone experienced the ‘starts beeping three days without being in range of user’s phone’ ? I can see the anti stalking benefits, but if I go away for a few days and they start beeping around the house I am not going to be popular!
Was thinking of dropping one in my car or putting onto my car keys and suchlike, but sometimes I’m away for work for several days here and will use the train, so will my keys just start beeping in the house whenever I’m away?
Sometimes I don’t use my car for a week or two and I presume any Airtag in the car will sit there beeping and flattening it’s battery as well?
If these estimated sales figures are even vaguely close to being correct, it looks like Apple may sell squillions of Airtags:
https://www.imore.com/80-people-buying-airtag-appl...
https://www.imore.com/80-people-buying-airtag-appl...
I think they’ve missed a trick with the anti-stalking and beeping.
I’d quite like to use a st load of these as anti theft item trackers. I have tiles for keys, but coverage is a bit patchy, but they are great for “which bloody sofa are my keys in this time”.
If they worked properly, I could epoxy them to some bit of high value equipment, and then work out who had nicked it. But if they going to alert the thief, they’re useless. Ditto if they start whining if you haven’t been near them for a few days.
I’d quite like to use a st load of these as anti theft item trackers. I have tiles for keys, but coverage is a bit patchy, but they are great for “which bloody sofa are my keys in this time”.
If they worked properly, I could epoxy them to some bit of high value equipment, and then work out who had nicked it. But if they going to alert the thief, they’re useless. Ditto if they start whining if you haven’t been near them for a few days.
Lord Marylebone said:
If these estimated sales figures are even vaguely close to being correct, it looks like Apple may sell squillions of Airtags:
https://www.imore.com/80-people-buying-airtag-appl...
I think if you looked around where I am sitting you would assume I must be a bit of a fanboi, but I can not really see the Apple business case or the customer use case for AT.https://www.imore.com/80-people-buying-airtag-appl...
I do have someone's key that they lost while walking in woods near us - posted up in the local Facebook pages - and it struck me that humans have been losing things for millennia - but I don't really get the case that everyone is better off by sticking tags on their keyring and bags. Although I suppose if *everyone* does this that's shelling out a hundred bucks of beer tokens and maybe in a year or so the world will just expect nothing is "lost" any more.
Maybe it's a huge game changer and I am not seeing it, but I cannot knock it, because I am also an Apple shareholder and it feels like the margin on each one of these must be "healthy"
Maybe I'm just miffed that it's something with an Apple logo on that I cannot justify purchasing at the moment.
I just dunno!
I, too, am struggling to see the benefit of these. There's only 3 cases that could be of use:
1. Lost keys - OK, I understand this benefit, although never lost keys in my life (always a first time I suppose)
2. Stolen items - Well, a thief will remove the AirTag won't he!
3. Car "tracker" - Could be a case here, leave one "hidden" somewhere. Concern is that the "anti-stalking" feature effectively makes this use case redundant. I don't want the thief alerted that there is one in the car somewhere.....
1. Lost keys - OK, I understand this benefit, although never lost keys in my life (always a first time I suppose)
2. Stolen items - Well, a thief will remove the AirTag won't he!
3. Car "tracker" - Could be a case here, leave one "hidden" somewhere. Concern is that the "anti-stalking" feature effectively makes this use case redundant. I don't want the thief alerted that there is one in the car somewhere.....
K12beano said:
I think if you looked around where I am sitting you would assume I must be a bit of a fanboi, but I can not really see the Apple business case or the customer use case for AT.
I do have someone's key that they lost while walking in woods near us - posted up in the local Facebook pages - and it struck me that humans have been losing things for millennia - but I don't really get the case that everyone is better off by sticking tags on their keyring and bags. Although I suppose if *everyone* does this that's shelling out a hundred bucks of beer tokens and maybe in a year or so the world will just expect nothing is "lost" any more.
Maybe it's a huge game changer and I am not seeing it, but I cannot knock it, because I am also an Apple shareholder and it feels like the margin on each one of these must be "healthy"
Maybe I'm just miffed that it's something with an Apple logo on that I cannot justify purchasing at the moment.
I just dunno!
It's an interesting one. I don't think it's a game changer by any stretch of the imagination, but perhaps it will turn out to be more useful and bigger selling than we think?I do have someone's key that they lost while walking in woods near us - posted up in the local Facebook pages - and it struck me that humans have been losing things for millennia - but I don't really get the case that everyone is better off by sticking tags on their keyring and bags. Although I suppose if *everyone* does this that's shelling out a hundred bucks of beer tokens and maybe in a year or so the world will just expect nothing is "lost" any more.
Maybe it's a huge game changer and I am not seeing it, but I cannot knock it, because I am also an Apple shareholder and it feels like the margin on each one of these must be "healthy"
Maybe I'm just miffed that it's something with an Apple logo on that I cannot justify purchasing at the moment.
I just dunno!
Looking around my desk you would probably also consider me a serial Apple purchaser as the relatively small selection of tech I surround myself with is all Apple, and is used for work and play.
I posted earlier that I fancy buying some, but then I struggled to think of things to attach them to where they might actually be useful!
Will still buy them though as I just find the tech quite interesting...
Lord Marylebone said:
It's an interesting one. I don't think it's a game changer by any stretch of the imagination, but perhaps it will turn out to be more useful and bigger selling than we think?
Looking around my desk you would probably also consider me a serial Apple purchaser as the relatively small selection of tech I surround myself with is all Apple, and is used for work and play.
I posted earlier that I fancy buying some, but then I struggled to think of things to attach them to where they might actually be useful!
Will still buy them though as I just find the tech quite interesting...
Same.Looking around my desk you would probably also consider me a serial Apple purchaser as the relatively small selection of tech I surround myself with is all Apple, and is used for work and play.
I posted earlier that I fancy buying some, but then I struggled to think of things to attach them to where they might actually be useful!
Will still buy them though as I just find the tech quite interesting...
That’s why apple make squillions of money. They make products that people didn’t think they needed and people end up finding a use for them.
Almost every apple product I own I started by thinking what’s the point in that? iPad, iPhone, Apple Watch, AirPods etc etc Now I think they’re all great.
I don’t even know what there AirPods are and how they work and I’ve ordered some. I’ve no real need for them but now I’m upset they’re taking so long.
Dracoro said:
I, too, am struggling to see the benefit of these. There's only 3 cases that could be of use:
1. Lost keys - OK, I understand this benefit, although never lost keys in my life (always a first time I suppose)
2. Stolen items - Well, a thief will remove the AirTag won't he!
3. Car "tracker" - Could be a case here, leave one "hidden" somewhere. Concern is that the "anti-stalking" feature effectively makes this use case redundant. I don't want the thief alerted that there is one in the car somewhere.....
Same here - really want some but have nothing really to attach them to! I'm in the same boat as you for 1) and 2), and with 3) well we both have apps that track our cars anyway and turn on 'Find my Friends' when we need the other to know where we are.1. Lost keys - OK, I understand this benefit, although never lost keys in my life (always a first time I suppose)
2. Stolen items - Well, a thief will remove the AirTag won't he!
3. Car "tracker" - Could be a case here, leave one "hidden" somewhere. Concern is that the "anti-stalking" feature effectively makes this use case redundant. I don't want the thief alerted that there is one in the car somewhere.....
Maybe when I start going on holiday again I'll put one in my camera bag.
K12beano said:
I think if you looked around where I am sitting you would assume I must be a bit of a fanboi, but I can not really see the Apple business case or the customer use case for AT.
I do have someone's key that they lost while walking in woods near us - posted up in the local Facebook pages - and it struck me that humans have been losing things for millennia - but I don't really get the case that everyone is better off by sticking tags on their keyring and bags. Although I suppose if *everyone* does this that's shelling out a hundred bucks of beer tokens and maybe in a year or so the world will just expect nothing is "lost" any more.
Maybe it's a huge game changer and I am not seeing it, but I cannot knock it, because I am also an Apple shareholder and it feels like the margin on each one of these must be "healthy"
Maybe I'm just miffed that it's something with an Apple logo on that I cannot justify purchasing at the moment.
I just dunno!
I don't think AirTags are Apple's end game, I think they are to get the Find My network critical mass, then they can charge a license fee for every item that has Find My built-in. Once one set of headphones/camera/drone/power tool/other gadget has it built-in, it will become a plus point on all the online reviews and then all their competitors will have to also have it built-in.I do have someone's key that they lost while walking in woods near us - posted up in the local Facebook pages - and it struck me that humans have been losing things for millennia - but I don't really get the case that everyone is better off by sticking tags on their keyring and bags. Although I suppose if *everyone* does this that's shelling out a hundred bucks of beer tokens and maybe in a year or so the world will just expect nothing is "lost" any more.
Maybe it's a huge game changer and I am not seeing it, but I cannot knock it, because I am also an Apple shareholder and it feels like the margin on each one of these must be "healthy"
Maybe I'm just miffed that it's something with an Apple logo on that I cannot justify purchasing at the moment.
I just dunno!
I think the main thing is they have to try and act like it is something somehow connected with an iPhone, or people might start asking questions about why are iPhones by default helping to run a tracking network for apple that brings them only a fraction of the benefits it brings other people.
K12beano said:
I think if you looked around where I am sitting you would assume I must be a bit of a fanboi, but I can not really see the Apple business case or the customer use case for AT.
I do have someone's key that they lost while walking in woods near us - posted up in the local Facebook pages - and it struck me that humans have been losing things for millennia - but I don't really get the case that everyone is better off by sticking tags on their keyring and bags. Although I suppose if *everyone* does this that's shelling out a hundred bucks of beer tokens and maybe in a year or so the world will just expect nothing is "lost" any more.
Maybe it's a huge game changer and I am not seeing it, but I cannot knock it, because I am also an Apple shareholder and it feels like the margin on each one of these must be "healthy"
Maybe I'm just miffed that it's something with an Apple logo on that I cannot justify purchasing at the moment.
I just dunno!
I have a load of Tiles (similar things, but more useful because they have no anti stalking). I also have a lot of keys - 9 cars, so, yes, they go missing all the time. I've also got one on the security pass for work - that has completely eliminated the "where is my ***Ing pass" panics in the morning. I would see "finding" technology as a huge advantage in pretty much every electronic product I own, I'd be willing to pay for it.I do have someone's key that they lost while walking in woods near us - posted up in the local Facebook pages - and it struck me that humans have been losing things for millennia - but I don't really get the case that everyone is better off by sticking tags on their keyring and bags. Although I suppose if *everyone* does this that's shelling out a hundred bucks of beer tokens and maybe in a year or so the world will just expect nothing is "lost" any more.
Maybe it's a huge game changer and I am not seeing it, but I cannot knock it, because I am also an Apple shareholder and it feels like the margin on each one of these must be "healthy"
Maybe I'm just miffed that it's something with an Apple logo on that I cannot justify purchasing at the moment.
I just dunno!
Network effect is what they are all after, because that makes it useful - this is similar to Amazon's Sidewalk plan.
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