Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

[geeks]

anonymoususer said:

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Never mind it gives you something to slag others off about

I am with toxicnerve on this, new OS in not supporting 12 year old hardware shocker!

[anonymoususer]

geeks said:

new OS may not support 4year old hardware shocker!

Edited that one for you.
It's not the Trusted Platforms issue it also looks that its only going to work on newer processors
That will hit quite a few laptop owners

[Mr Whippy]

Win10 is generally fine.

I hate the firewall stuff though. It’s chatting so much and all it’s apps have convoluted user and path names.

If you could just run it offline with only allowance for critical needs it’d be fine.

[paulrockliffe]

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The point is that these are the minimum specs for W11:

Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with two or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or system on a chip (SoC).
RAM: 4 gigabytes.

The minimum specs are the square root of fk all, it would run on a Raspberry Pi.

Yet my processor is 4 cores and 4Ghz. It's 8x the minimum spec and is unsupported.

What's the reason this 'old' processor isn't supported? It's not age or performance.

[NGRhodes]

I think these minimum specs are only what Win11 has been designed/tested and will be supported against (especially as guidance for OEMs who will look at bringing W11 support to existing Win10 running machines).
Win11 may we run on older machines well, I've seen a reddit report of it installing and running well on a 2008 Lenovo T400, its just MS has not tested that far back. TPM2.0 and DX12 capable do not seem to be hard requirements.
My old X220 never officially supported Win10, but only needs a couple of Win8 drivers (which was officially supported by the X220) to run Win10 for a number of years with almost perfect reliability.

[paulrockliffe]

anonymous said:

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Yes, what's your point?

Hopefully your argument is more than, "Companies are free to do what they like"?

Because if it is, the counter argument is the rather obvious, "Yes, but consumers are also free to complain about it."

And given none of this is set in stone, the more people complain about it, the more likely MS are to change things.

If there's a good reason for it, then fine, but if it's artificial, then why would I approve on the basis that MS are free to do whatever they like?

[anonymoususer]

anonymous said:

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Yes you are correct
It was very silly of me to make the points I did and I feel thoroughly ashamed for doing so

[sbarclay62]

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I could get the debate with Windows v MacOS.

However most times I hear how bad Windows is and how good Apple are is when someone is comparing a 10 year old Core2Duo with 4gb ram Toshiba with their brand spanking new £1000 Macbook.

Quite looking forward to the new release. I've like all Window OS's since XP (yep - even Vista) except Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. They were absolutely dreadful!

[Narcisus]

Cant say I'm particular worried yet but I cant find a TPM module for Asus X570 plus I intended to keep this MB for a while and drop a 5 series Ryzen in at some point.

If there is no TMP module for it i'll probably keep current processor and upgrade MB and CPU further down the line.

[Narcisus]

anonymous said:

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haha ! As you were typing that I was enabling it in the BIOS Works fine ... Would have been nice to fill that blank header though

[beko1987]

Yey my (utterly perfectly fine) ickle Ryzen 5 2600X is supported!

I've got the ISO downloaded and am spinning a vm up to have a play.

[jimmyjimjim]

My main PC, built last year needed the TPM module enabling in the BIOS ('enable security module'). CPU is supported. Same goes for the NUC from a year prior, except no BIOS tweaking needed.

Both laptops, which date from ~2015 and are running fine*, have the TPM although the CPUs are not officially supported. Given the MS line that it should work, I'll probably upgrade mine in due course, and replace my wife's one when she either breaks it or complains about performance. They'll both be about 10 years old when W10 is EoL, anyway.

This is probably the most relevant point - by the time W10 is done with, anything running it is either going to be capable of upgrading to W11, or will be 10 years old.

* sorry mac users, Windows PCs do last longer than a couple of years. Both are in daily use without issues, though one has had a replacement battery for $30. The old main PC was built in 2011 and still runs fine, was just hitting 16Gb of memory use regularly, and I decided to upgrade everything instead of just the memory.

[PiesAreGreat]

Just as long as it isn't another Windows 8...