Windows 11 - lightweight? fast? and Android?
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mikef said:
Anyone else running the Win 11 beta? It seems very stable - I’m playing FS 2020 which is quite demanding and everything rock solid so far. Nice clean UI
I've been tempted, but then I always end up reading about something that would quite likely annoy, so I'll probably just wait for the official release, although I'd have no worries about stability unless it was a work machine.I've installed 11 on an old i7 desktop and a Vostro Core2 Duo to test. They don't have TPM so I used a hack to bypass the check at installation
https://windowsreport.com/install-windows-11-witho...
There are some things you can't change having used the hack but for running programs and surfing it's good and I've had no problems.
The only thing it won't do is allow Android support at the moment which is part of the reason for me trying it but I'll see how it goes.
https://windowsreport.com/install-windows-11-witho...
There are some things you can't change having used the hack but for running programs and surfing it's good and I've had no problems.
The only thing it won't do is allow Android support at the moment which is part of the reason for me trying it but I'll see how it goes.
To be fair, all I've done is bypass the TPM check at installation on a Beta release. It's unlikely that it will work on a full release and as I said, some features are restricted due to the need for a TPM reference so it's not really a hidden to user hack.
Edited by Ozone on Sunday 15th August 22:08
Been on dev channel for a few weeks and (touch wood) no issues so far, I'm liking it. I see win11 is on the beta channel now too.
However, absolutely DO NOT hop on these Windows Insider channels unless you understand what's involved and can tolerate that machine being unstable or even unbootable at any time. Even if you have a good experience, getting off these channels again usually means a clean install.
However, absolutely DO NOT hop on these Windows Insider channels unless you understand what's involved and can tolerate that machine being unstable or even unbootable at any time. Even if you have a good experience, getting off these channels again usually means a clean install.
anonymous said:
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Daily driver desktop, but I have a plain win10 laptop with all the same software on it as a fallback. Sync docs, etc on onedrive, regular backups to NAS & cloud. For a very long time I've tried to ensure that computers are expendable, and that something breaking doesn't take long to recover from.If a reinstall would cost you lots of time and/or money, don't play around with early Windows builds.
anonymous said:
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I started off installing on a VM and then of course realised that I'd never use it that way.So I installed it on my main PC (used 7 days a week, 12 hours a day), and have been now for a few weeks.
However, I first cloned my Windows 10 drive and removed it from the machine (after ensuring it booted the machine), so if it all does go horribly wrong, I can just pop the other drive back in.
Officially available now...
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/...
Still haven't done it, can't decide. I do like a pretty UI and my machine is pretty much a toy, I don't know if I'd be quite as keen on it if I had to use it for work, mainly thanks to the gimped taskbar, and it's a shame they haven't thoroughly overhauled the UI as there are still bits of it that look unfinished.
I probably will though just out of curiosity.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/...
Still haven't done it, can't decide. I do like a pretty UI and my machine is pretty much a toy, I don't know if I'd be quite as keen on it if I had to use it for work, mainly thanks to the gimped taskbar, and it's a shame they haven't thoroughly overhauled the UI as there are still bits of it that look unfinished.
I probably will though just out of curiosity.
Nimby said:
Have MS announced what their policy is on updates if you install via the ISO on unsupported h/w?
(All I can find so far is pre-launch speculation that Windows Update might not work)
I looked earlier for guidance on what will happen to my unsupported hardware that is currently on the W11 Dev Preview Channel and couldn't find anything, though I didn't look all that hard.(All I can find so far is pre-launch speculation that Windows Update might not work)
I did see that it was fairly trivial to install W11 while bypassing the TPM etc checks though, so I don't think it matters too much what the official position is.
Well, no harm in trying (backup first!)
I did an in-place upgrade via the ISO and you just tick a box saying that ,as the h/w is unsupported, you accept that you are not entitled to updates or support
However once it's up and running, Windows Update appears normal. It does a check then says "you are up to date". However Install had already done an update so that's not proof either way.
I did an in-place upgrade via the ISO and you just tick a box saying that ,as the h/w is unsupported, you accept that you are not entitled to updates or support
However once it's up and running, Windows Update appears normal. It does a check then says "you are up to date". However Install had already done an update so that's not proof either way.
I upgraded my Win10 to 11 yesterday. All fine and there are some obvious unfinished touches to both dark theme and animations and fluidity but otherwise it is fine. I hope they add start menu features like being able to group apps like they did with 10 some months later...
My CPU is unsupported as it's an i7 6700 but I used the media creation tool to create a USB drive which I then clicked into setup.exe from and got prompted about the hardware not being supported but I could click Accept to proceed anyway.
Everything works as expected, no issues at all really.
The Accept prompt stated that because of this the system is no "eligible" for future updates but I've already had a Windows 11 update so I guess they're saying technically you're not eligible, but will still get them.
My CPU is unsupported as it's an i7 6700 but I used the media creation tool to create a USB drive which I then clicked into setup.exe from and got prompted about the hardware not being supported but I could click Accept to proceed anyway.
Everything works as expected, no issues at all really.
The Accept prompt stated that because of this the system is no "eligible" for future updates but I've already had a Windows 11 update so I guess they're saying technically you're not eligible, but will still get them.
robbiekhan said:
I upgraded my Win10 to 11 yesterday. All fine and there are some obvious unfinished touches to both dark theme and animations and fluidity but otherwise it is fine. I hope they add start menu features like being able to group apps like they did with 10 some months later...
My CPU is unsupported as it's an i7 6700 but I used the media creation tool to create a USB drive which I then clicked into setup.exe from and got prompted about the hardware not being supported but I could click Accept to proceed anyway.
Everything works as expected, no issues at all really.
The Accept prompt stated that because of this the system is no "eligible" for future updates but I've already had a Windows 11 update so I guess they're saying technically you're not eligible, but will still get them.
Both my processors came back as unsupported so I’ve held off, any noticeable drop in performance because they must be using some generic mode?My CPU is unsupported as it's an i7 6700 but I used the media creation tool to create a USB drive which I then clicked into setup.exe from and got prompted about the hardware not being supported but I could click Accept to proceed anyway.
Everything works as expected, no issues at all really.
The Accept prompt stated that because of this the system is no "eligible" for future updates but I've already had a Windows 11 update so I guess they're saying technically you're not eligible, but will still get them.
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