Windows 11 - lightweight? fast? and Android?

Windows 11 - lightweight? fast? and Android?

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TameRacingDriver

18,098 posts

273 months

Sunday 15th August 2021
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mikef said:
Anyone else running the Win 11 beta? It seems very stable - I’m playing FS 2020 which is quite demanding and everything rock solid so far. Nice clean UI
I've been tempted, but then I always end up reading about something that would quite likely annoy, so I'll probably just wait for the official release, although I'd have no worries about stability unless it was a work machine.

Ozone

3,046 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th August 2021
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I've installed 11 on an old i7 desktop and a Vostro Core2 Duo to test. They don't have TPM so I used a hack to bypass the check at installation

https://windowsreport.com/install-windows-11-witho...

There are some things you can't change having used the hack but for running programs and surfing it's good and I've had no problems.
The only thing it won't do is allow Android support at the moment which is part of the reason for me trying it but I'll see how it goes.

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

179 months

Sunday 15th August 2021
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If Windows 11 is that easy to hack for TPM what does it say about possibility of other hacks?

Ozone

3,046 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th August 2021
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To be fair, all I've done is bypass the TPM check at installation on a Beta release. It's unlikely that it will work on a full release and as I said, some features are restricted due to the need for a TPM reference so it's not really a hidden to user hack.

Edited by Ozone on Sunday 15th August 22:08

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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After running beta for a couple of months on my laptop, I've had no issues - it's worked flawlessly.

Only used for Office and web, plus RDP and TeamViewer.

It looks good, pretty snappy, and 'it just works', as Steve Jobs said.

sjg

7,455 posts

266 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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Been on dev channel for a few weeks and (touch wood) no issues so far, I'm liking it. I see win11 is on the beta channel now too.

However, absolutely DO NOT hop on these Windows Insider channels unless you understand what's involved and can tolerate that machine being unstable or even unbootable at any time. Even if you have a good experience, getting off these channels again usually means a clean install.

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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Mine's running on HP ProBook x360.

It's my goto laptop which I use at home and out and about, but I have a desktop should anything go tits-up.

sjg

7,455 posts

266 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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anonymous said:
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Daily driver desktop, but I have a plain win10 laptop with all the same software on it as a fallback. Sync docs, etc on onedrive, regular backups to NAS & cloud. For a very long time I've tried to ensure that computers are expendable, and that something breaking doesn't take long to recover from.

If a reinstall would cost you lots of time and/or money, don't play around with early Windows builds.

snuffy

9,812 posts

285 months

Monday 16th August 2021
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anonymous said:
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I started off installing on a VM and then of course realised that I'd never use it that way.

So I installed it on my main PC (used 7 days a week, 12 hours a day), and have been now for a few weeks.

However, I first cloned my Windows 10 drive and removed it from the machine (after ensuring it booted the machine), so if it all does go horribly wrong, I can just pop the other drive back in.

TameRacingDriver

18,098 posts

273 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Officially available now...

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/...

Still haven't done it, can't decide. I do like a pretty UI and my machine is pretty much a toy, I don't know if I'd be quite as keen on it if I had to use it for work, mainly thanks to the gimped taskbar, and it's a shame they haven't thoroughly overhauled the UI as there are still bits of it that look unfinished.

I probably will though just out of curiosity.

mikef

4,887 posts

252 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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I updated my office machine a month ago and just updated my gaming machine. Happy with it, seems more responsive and overall I like the UI changes. Sometimes you drop back into Windows 7 UI but much less often than Win 10

TameRacingDriver

18,098 posts

273 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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I've given in already hehe

I like it. Feels and looks better than Windows 10 which is worth it alone. Not perfect, but feels like its modernised my machine, which is modern but didn't always feel it on Win10.

AJB88

12,466 posts

172 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Only Windows device we have in the house is the missus Dell laptop, apparently it can run Windows 11 so will probably update it.

saaby93

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32,038 posts

179 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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TameRacingDriver said:
I've given in already hehe

I like it. Feels and looks better than Windows 10 which is worth it alone. Not perfect, but feels like its modernised my machine, which is modern but didn't always feel it on Win10.
Has it brought back any of the benefits of XP spin

Nimby

4,606 posts

151 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Have MS announced what their policy is on updates if you install via the ISO on unsupported h/w?

(All I can find so far is pre-launch speculation that Windows Update might not work)

paulrockliffe

15,724 posts

228 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Nimby said:
Have MS announced what their policy is on updates if you install via the ISO on unsupported h/w?

(All I can find so far is pre-launch speculation that Windows Update might not work)
I looked earlier for guidance on what will happen to my unsupported hardware that is currently on the W11 Dev Preview Channel and couldn't find anything, though I didn't look all that hard.

I did see that it was fairly trivial to install W11 while bypassing the TPM etc checks though, so I don't think it matters too much what the official position is.

Nimby

4,606 posts

151 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Well, no harm in trying (backup first!)

I did an in-place upgrade via the ISO and you just tick a box saying that ,as the h/w is unsupported, you accept that you are not entitled to updates or support

However once it's up and running, Windows Update appears normal. It does a check then says "you are up to date". However Install had already done an update so that's not proof either way.

robbiekhan

1,467 posts

178 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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I upgraded my Win10 to 11 yesterday. All fine and there are some obvious unfinished touches to both dark theme and animations and fluidity but otherwise it is fine. I hope they add start menu features like being able to group apps like they did with 10 some months later...

My CPU is unsupported as it's an i7 6700 but I used the media creation tool to create a USB drive which I then clicked into setup.exe from and got prompted about the hardware not being supported but I could click Accept to proceed anyway.

Everything works as expected, no issues at all really.

The Accept prompt stated that because of this the system is no "eligible" for future updates but I've already had a Windows 11 update so I guess they're saying technically you're not eligible, but will still get them.

Heres Johnny

7,238 posts

125 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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robbiekhan said:
I upgraded my Win10 to 11 yesterday. All fine and there are some obvious unfinished touches to both dark theme and animations and fluidity but otherwise it is fine. I hope they add start menu features like being able to group apps like they did with 10 some months later...

My CPU is unsupported as it's an i7 6700 but I used the media creation tool to create a USB drive which I then clicked into setup.exe from and got prompted about the hardware not being supported but I could click Accept to proceed anyway.

Everything works as expected, no issues at all really.

The Accept prompt stated that because of this the system is no "eligible" for future updates but I've already had a Windows 11 update so I guess they're saying technically you're not eligible, but will still get them.
Both my processors came back as unsupported so I’ve held off, any noticeable drop in performance because they must be using some generic mode?

HRL

3,341 posts

220 months

Tuesday 5th October 2021
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Done two upgrades today using the Win 11 Upgrade Assistant, a 2700X based PC and a 5950X PC.

No problems so far and the upgrade was remarkably quick. That is once I’d changed the BIOS settings on both to enable AMD’s fTPM.