Nvidia RTX 4000 Launch

[Mr Whippy]

Yeah the crypto scene will distort GPU prices.

With electricity costs up too, efficient GPU will be in high demand. This next gen 40 series doesn’t move stuff on much in that regard like 20 to 30.


In any case all this really does is make people defer upgrades, so game dev target hardware is lower spec, so newer gear is increasingly under-utilised except for driving fps or resolution, both of which are ample for many people at 1440p at 60hz.

I’m not sure I’ll be spending £££ just to run higher fps or higher resolution than I can get away with.

Even now on my TV I’m running 60hz at 1080p… looks fine on most games.

[bloomen]

The only thing that'll make me move on from a 1080ti is perfect VR and the next generation still might not have the grunt.

Other than that I've yet to feel that I'm missing out on anything.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Stock shouldn't be an issue as they have a boat load of fab time they are wanting rid of as they purchased it all before the crypto winter. Also factor in people my not want they anergy bills this generation are bringing some 3080ti recommend 850w so might be needing more in the kw+ territory especially if you running a 12900k


if you think a 3090 ti has a 450w power requirement transient draw could be 2.5x so thats 1125 W + a 12900k at 250w + everything else you could be closer to 1.5KW maximum draw if you have a very good psu than likely a 1kw will deal with a transient spike upto 1.5kw But you may find your getting weird crashing if the psu cant handle the transient load

Edited by Trustmeimadoctor on Wednesday 20th July 14:04

[Mr Whippy]

As I mentioned further up, if you’re desperate to run 4k or higher at 144hz+ for ‘competition’ or ‘whatever’ needs then you’ll be spending a fair old wodge of money on electricity and it’ll not probably feel much different to 1440p/60hz with about 8x less processing power needed.

Given where UE5 is going with nanite and lumen, without needing RTX, and mega resolutions and fps, I can see a 1080Ti as mentioned by Bloomen above, or a 3070 (for its efficiency and DLSS mostly), plenty for most real use cases.

[Lucas Ayde]

Mr Whippy said:

Yeah the crypto scene will distort GPU prices.

With electricity costs up too, efficient GPU will be in high demand. This next gen 40 series doesn’t move stuff on much in that regard like 20 to 30.


In any case all this really does is make people defer upgrades, so game dev target hardware is lower spec, so newer gear is increasingly under-utilised except for driving fps or resolution, both of which are ample for many people at 1440p at 60hz.

I’m not sure I’ll be spending £££ just to run higher fps or higher resolution than I can get away with.

Even now on my TV I’m running 60hz at 1080p… looks fine on most games.

Another '1080p on TV' player here ... even though I have a G9 monitor I much prefer to stream PC games to my Nvidia Shield and play them from the couch down in the living room.

I have an RTX3070 / Ryzen 5900X and it will be a while before it's not capable of pumping 1080p/60 at high detail levels on any game.

I have thought about an RTX 4070 but seeing as it apparently will consume 300W and won't really show any improvement on the TV feed, think I'll wait for a while.

[FourWheelDrift]

If true this will be a lot better - https://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-40xx-leak-suggests-...

RTX 4080 - 320w
RTX 4070 - 285w

[Trustmeimadoctor]

im sure linus was saying that the 4070 is going to be 3090ti performance but at current/future electricity prices im not sure why anyone would want anything that consumes MORE energy on a high end rig it could be about 60p an hour at full pelt

[Narcisus]

I've just splurged my 'secret cache cash' on a Steam Deck so looks like i'll be using my 2070S for another year at least.

[Prak]

Trustmeimadoctor said:

im sure linus was saying that the 4070 is going to be 3090ti performance but at current/future electricity prices im not sure why anyone would want anything that consumes MORE energy on a high end rig it could be about 60p an hour at full pelt

And yet I used to put 20p a time in the slot at the arcade to play Outrun ... badly ... decades ago

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Prak said:

Trustmeimadoctor said:

im sure linus was saying that the 4070 is going to be 3090ti performance but at current/future electricity prices im not sure why anyone would want anything that consumes MORE energy on a high end rig it could be about 60p an hour at full pelt

And yet I used to put 20p a time in the slot at the arcade to play Outrun ... badly ... decades ago

indeed but paying 1K plus for a card then 60p an hour just to play a game when you can use an xbox or ps5 (£400 ish) for 200w 12p ish per hour yes lot of stuff isnt available but it rally doesnt make much sense

[MickC]

bloomen said:

The only thing that'll make me move on from a 1080ti is perfect VR and the next generation still might not have the grunt.

Other than that I've yet to feel that I'm missing out on anything.

Same feeling here, the games I play don't really need anything more than this 1070, that's at 1440p. I usually got for either the xx70 or xx80 every other generation though so i was after a 3070/80. Now you can actually get them at vaguely sensible prices I cant be bothered though, with the 40 cards incoming for around the same prices hopefully.

My main worry is how long this aging 1070 will last - really don't want to be at the mercy of the crypto market when it decides to blow up!

[Mr Whippy]

I think with leccy the way it is ETH will move to that new thingy without using gpu.

Btc is on ASICS.

Gpu will go back to just gamers imo.

Lots of pro stuff will use improving cpu/gpu combo in future too I think.


I just need to get MSI afterburner running on my sons non-admin account, as it saves a decent chunk of power while he plays Animal Revolt Battle Simulator, TABS and world of warships!

So far I think it’s task scheduler to start it with admin privileges at system start…

[FourWheelDrift]

Some more compiled data leaks, 4060 and 4060 Ti.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-rt...

[FourWheelDrift]

5.85Ghz boost on the Ryzen 9 7950x !!

https://www.eteknix.com/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-reported...

[Mr Whippy]

It’s safe to say from my end that unless they come in with twice the performance for the same price, with the same energy usage, I won’t be bothering given the prevailing economic situation.

Given the continued stupid pricing on the 30 I’m still not bothering to even update my work machine either.


I’m waiting until the 50 or 60 series.

[tafkattn]

I'll probably skip this generation. 3090 is still doing the job for me.

[FourWheelDrift]

Alleged RTX 4080 in the wild. Same heatsink design it seems

https://videocardz.com/newz/alleged-geforce-rtx-40...

[mmm-five]

FourWheelDrift said:

Alleged RTX 4080 in the wild. Same heatsink design it seems

https://videocardz.com/newz/alleged-geforce-rtx-40...

Just need to get a new logo for mine...and no-one will know the difference

[Lucas Ayde]

Trustmeimadoctor said:

indeed but paying 1K plus for a card then 60p an hour just to play a game when you can use an xbox or ps5 (£400 ish) for 200w 12p ish per hour yes lot of stuff isnt available but it rally doesnt make much sense

As long as you wait a couple of months, PC games are waaaaay cheaper than console. And even though the Microsoft and Sony stores have games sales from time to time, they don't come anywhere near to the Steam sales nor the various third party game key reseller stores who always have really cheap stuff on offer (legally).

Also, you don't have to go for the very highest end PC that needs 800-1000W and costs a fortune. A more mid-range setup will still deliver excellent, better than console, performance at a reasonable wattage.

And of course, you can get a Steamdeck and enjoy your games with a consumption of about 25-30W max.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

I have PC and Xbox and seem to play neither at the moment
With Xbox the key is not buying games as in using Xbox live ultimate or buying them from turkey or Argentina then you have very cheap gaming