RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI Pirelli | Spotted

RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI Pirelli | Spotted

Tuesday 14th March 2023

Volkswagen Golf GTI Pirelli | Spotted

The run-out Pirelli trim harked back to the good old days - and a very specific tyre tread


It was just too obvious. It couldn’t be, surely?  But don’t assume anything is the golden rule, so I didn’t. And thank sweet Jesus I didn’t, because if I’d published anything about this car and hadn’t pointed it out, well, I’d have been toast. It would have been comment number one and one hundred, and all of the ones in between. You lot would’ve spotted it in an instant, no question of that, and I’d have felt jolly silly.

Goodyears. It’s on flipping Goodyears. How could they do such a thing? Was it parsimony, apathy? Or was it a wonderful moment of irony when the previous owner headed to Kwik Fit – other tyre suppliers are available – and the person behind the counter said: “So, what tyres would you like on your Volkswagen Golf GTI Pirelli special edition? We have the lot, all the good makes, don’t feel constrained in any way. Go for it?”

And they said: “Stick a set of Goodyears on it, please.”  

Okay then. I really hope it was irony.

Anyway, I need to get a grip. I need to tell you about the whole car and not just its tyres. It’s a Mk5 Golf GTI Pirelli, of course, but this wasn’t the first of its kind as many of you will know. The original Golf GTI Pirelli came out in 1983, and if you’ve always wondered why you see Mk1 Golf GTIs with a ‘P’ pattern running around the rim of the wheel, that’s why. ‘P’ for Pirelli. Makes sense, doesn’t it.

Except it was only called the Pirelli edition in Germany. Over here it was called the Golf GTI Campaign, although either way it was the runout model for the Mk1 Golf GTI. And along with its P-slot wheels it had Pirelli tyres, obviously, quad headlights rather than the standard two, tinted glass, a factory-fitted sunroof, a leather-trimmed steering wheel and a trip computer. Boy was it popular. In just six months, Volkswagen shifted 10,500 cars, which makes you wonder why it took 25 years and the end of the line for the Mk5 to produce a follow-up.  

This time, the Pirelli link in the wheel design wasn’t quite so obvious. Its name was on the centre caps, but otherwise the 18-inch wheels looked like a relatively unadventurous set of five-spokes that could easily have been mistaken for an aftermarket upgrade – especially because this car appears to have been rudely lowered as well. Look closely, though, and you will see that the spokes are, in fact, the elongated 'P' of the Pirelli logo.

I mentioned that this one appears to have been lowered. The Pirelli Edition’s suspension was 20mm lower than the standard Mk5 GTI’s (the same as the Edition 30's) but this looks a lot lower than that. It has the same TSI engine from the Edition 30, too, which gave it a 30hp boost to 230hp plus an extra 14lb ft, taking the total torque to 221lb ft.

The tyres were unique, though. You couldn’t get a set of Pirelli P Zeros on an ordinary Golf GTI, and to emphasise that the Pirelli edition had them the tread pattern was embossed into the Alcantara centre section of the part-leather seats. Those, by the way, also had exclusive contrasting yellow stitching, which appeared on the steering wheel as well, and there was a yellow Pirelli logo mounted above the glovebox.

Like the Mk1 Golf GTI, the Mk5 was a good car. Much better resolved than the Mk3 and Mk4 dynamically, which injected the fun back into the GTI brand it so desperately needed. So this wasn’t a special edition based on hot air; it was a celebration of a good car. That makes this one worth having in my book, even if it needs a little love to bring it back to minty fresh. The good news is the tricky bit to restore – the interior – looks tidy and the MOT history doesn't indicate there's anything nasty going on underneath. Two things, though. Stick the suspension back to stock and, for heaven’s sake, when someone asks you what tyres you want, just say “Pirellis, please.”


SPECIFICATION | Volkswagen Golf GTI Pirelli (Mk5)

Engine: 1,984cc, four-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 230 @ 5,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 221 @ 2,200rpm
CO2: 194g/km
MPG: 34.4
Recorded mileage: 94,000
Year registered: 2009
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £7,999

See the original advert here

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simonwedge

Original Poster:

743 posts

180 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Far too many red flags on this particular specimen: lowered, debadged, wheels need a refurb, looks like rust starting on rear wheelarch (fronts probably not far behind), seats laid back gangster-style as well as wrong tyres. Is this the best (only) one they could find?

Edited by simonwedge on Wednesday 15th March 07:08

Dombilano

1,138 posts

55 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Missing a rear wiper blade, gained wind deflectors and a 4D wikkid number plate.

Avoid

fantheman80

1,439 posts

49 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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I have to admit, there has been one on my street for years I walk past many times and is kept mint...but I never saw the Ps in the alloys until now....thanks PH



yme402

386 posts

102 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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The lowering looks awful. Says something about the previous owner who clearly thought they could improve on the chassis design engineers at VAG.

Macron

9,876 posts

166 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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This is a dire example.

Slowlygettingit

649 posts

41 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Those wheels are awful.
Wasn’t there a mk2 edition? Certainly remember seeing lots with the ‘p’ alloys.

The spinner of plates

17,698 posts

200 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Dombilano said:
Missing a rear wiper blade, gained wind deflectors and a 4D wikkid number plate.

Avoid
Agree on the number plate. I’m looking for a used car now and anything with one of them then is just a no for me.

GreatScott2016

1,183 posts

88 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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simonwedge said:
Far too many red flags on this particular specimen: lowered, debadged, wheels need a refurb, looks like rust starting on rear wheelarch (fronts probably not far behind), seats laid back gangster-style as well as wrong tyres. Is this the best (only) one they could find?

Edited by simonwedge on Wednesday 15th March 07:08
Caveat Emptor biggrin

soxboy

6,231 posts

219 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Slowlygettingit said:
Those wheels are awful.
Wasn’t there a mk2 edition? Certainly remember seeing lots with the ‘p’ alloys.
The mk2 came with Pirelli alloys as standard in the UK for a couple of years from launch. The Scirocco mk2 GTX had them too.

Anorak fact is the P alloys on the mk2 have a different spacing between the Ps. They also didn’t have Pirelli on the centre caps.

There was a mk2 Campaign edition, but it had nothing to do with Pirelli.

MDMA .

8,896 posts

101 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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My old one below. Was a very good car. A lot of the earlier pictures got lost when Tinypic went, but a few towards the end.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...


Whydoyoutalkcrap

198 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Given my recent experiences with Pirellis I can fully understand someone going for a decent make of tyre.

PSB1967

281 posts

156 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Where's the engine cover?

Gad-Westy

14,568 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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simonwedge said:
Far too many red flags on this particular specimen: lowered, debadged, wheels need a refurb, looks like rust starting on rear wheelarch (fronts probably not far behind), seats laid back gangster-style as well as wrong tyres. Is this the best (only) one they could find?

Edited by simonwedge on Wednesday 15th March 07:08
Yellow painted cailpers, 3D plates. The front wings might actually be okay simply because so many have had replacements over the years. Rears would be a worry. Unfortunately a lot of Mk5 Golfs are looking like this. They're just at that age and cost where they fall into the naff modding, neglect everything else market.

Not sure I like the Pirelli addition much anyway. I don't think the wheels suit the car and I far prefer regular Tartan setas or the half tartan/leather in the ED30.

bumskins

1,369 posts

15 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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simonwedge said:
Far too many red flags on this particular specimen: lowered, debadged, wheels need a refurb, looks like rust starting on rear wheelarch (fronts probably not far behind), seats laid back gangster-style as well as wrong tyres. Is this the best (only) one they could find?

Edited by simonwedge on Wednesday 15th March 07:08
Agreed, looks straight out of Bradford/Leeds vomit

Portofino

4,286 posts

191 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Weird one isn’t it. Doesn’t really work, especially now it’s Bazzed.

Pirelli’s for me have always been a let down as well. Goodyear or Michelin my preferred choice.

P6000’s, anyone remember them? The ditchfinder of the early 2000’s.

Maccmike8

1,034 posts

54 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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I just dont see £8k in that.

Wab1974uk

996 posts

27 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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The original car looked great as it came.

Why change it to look S**te?

S600BSB

4,628 posts

106 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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A big PH no then!

walnut3

222 posts

132 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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The fact the tyres are no longer Pirelli is the only visible upgrade to this otherwise dreadful example.

Re: tyres and even though the whole edition is branded after Pirelli, and I get that some people would value originality, I cannot understand why you'd forever stick to subpar parts that are crucial as to how a car performs just for the sake of a couple of badges. Bit like Porsche and their N-rated tyres.

sixor8

6,292 posts

268 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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I've seen several of these at classic car auctions the last few years, most of them JDM cars imported. But here's a UK model (in yellow) with 49k miles that sold for under £10k at CCA 12 months ago:

https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/2008-volkswag...