Mac OSX browsers which for PH?

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Spoonman

1,085 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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bacardi said:

. After using InDesign for about a week you realize what a tired old, has been app Quark is/was?
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Too true. But magazine publishing (where I work) is even more behind the times. Some mags didn't even move onto G3s until two years ago...

Rosso Paul

1,080 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Spoonman said: Paul, have you changed any memory preferences to get it to start up quickly? How is your hard drive segmented?

It takes ages on my G4 and iBook (both RAMmed up to the top) to begin Classic. I find it quicker to restart, so I've stopped even bothering.


I haven't made any special adjustments to my settings, I just set it to start Classic on boot-up. I'm running a G4 Quicksilver 1MHz twin processor Mac with just one 80mb hard drive with no extra partitions.
When I first went OSX I thought it was slow to boot until I gave the Mac a network address in Network preferences. Once I did this the Mac booted very quickly.
Paul

Rosso Paul

1,080 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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bacardi said:

After using InDesign for about a week you realize what a tired old, has been app Quark is/was?


I've thought about getting InDesign but like a lot of people I've got years of legacy documents in various flavours of Quark. The other problem I've met is that most of the printers/repro houses I know and the publications I have to send ads to don't seem to want InDesign files yet.
By all accounts if both apps were launched today Quark wouldn't stand a chance.
Paul

bacardi

2,235 posts

276 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Spoonman said:
Too true. But magazine publishing (where I work) is even more behind the times. Some mags didn't even move onto G3s until two years ago...


Yep, I know what you mean.
I work for magazine publishing companies/add agencies (freelance photographer) and they are all looking to change to InDesign and pdf workflow. It will take a little time but I think things are moving in that direction. Adobe are working hard on the promotional side of things and the more Quark drags their heels... time will tell.

Paul, as far as legacy files go I haven't had any problems but there are some gotchas to look out for. As far as repro/print houses not wanting InDesign files yet, I would have to ask 'do they want my business or don't they?' I'm sure the same thing happened when Quark was the new kid on the block and took over from Pagemaker.

mervynP

366 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Rosso Paul said:

mervynP said: wow, Mac nerds on Pistonheads!

So how RAM hungry do people find OSX? I am tempted to get it for my iBook, but am worried that it will bloat it out.


It does like RAM. Minimum requirement is 256mb. 512mb is plenty unless you're in graphics, video or music. I'm in graphics and have stuck 1.5gb in mine. I don't think it's too expensive - I think I paid about £100, or so, for 1gb.
Paul



256mB is a minimum! I am not sure that I can actually get much more in an iBook. Sod that for a laugh.

Bodo

12,375 posts

266 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Marshy said:

Bodo said:You've just made me a


Hey - I *use* Linux too y'know. I just wouldn't want my Mum and Dad to try...


I did it on both my parent's PCs:

Bodo: "Er, mum, I'm doing an upgrade on your PC"
Mum: "Why? I'm happy so far."
Bodo: "Oh, just some new software; a security package for internet-surfing, and a driver to write faxes direct from Word. This needs a new O/S because because the security-pack will never work on Win98."
Mum: "OK, just see that it works this evening."

I've installed SuSe 8.0; selected "no login for default user", configured KDE to Windows-lookalike, and installed the OpenOffice-package. Sorted.
She only realized that the office-software is "a bit different", but never complained.
One day, my brother and I had a conversation about Linux, and she asked what Linux is all about, and I replied: "Mum, you're using it since six months"

Spoonman

1,085 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Bacardi, have I seen your Griff in an Emap car park?

bacardi

2,235 posts

276 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Spoonman said: Bacardi, have I seen your Griff in an Emap car park?


No. Haven't worked for Emap. Wouldn't use the Griff for work even though I can get a fair bit of kit in it. 9' background rolls strapped to the roof spoil the look of it.

MikeyT

16,541 posts

271 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Spoonman said: Bacardi, have I seen your Griff in an Emap car park?


Bacardi, Spoonman, where are you guys? Are you at EMAP at Lynchwood, by the Pearl Spoonman?

Mike

(Also in mag design/production, using Quark but have InDesign too - but have never used it).
Whole mag goes via PDF straight to printers down ISDN line - no film - YIP YAROO!

Spoonman

1,085 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Hi Mikey. I'm a freelance journo, but I used to work on some Emap mags – including a couple now based at Lynchwood.

My girlfriend/business partner used to work there too, as a mag designer.

I definitely saw a dark red Griff in the visitors' car park there a few times though. I tend not to miss these things...

So where are you? Not unfortunate enough to deal with Emap, I hope.

MikeyT

16,541 posts

271 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Hi Spoonman,

Me? Not at EMAP no, but did work for them a long time ago freelance and have also done quite a bit over the years for Automotive in one way and another – Fleet Car etc, and have worked on just about every EMAP mag produced round these parts!

I too, remember a red Griff, must have been just after Automotive moved to Lynch Wood, in the car park one weekend.

Burning the midnight oil on an athletics mag right now!


>> Edited by MikeyT on Thursday 23 January 21:30

Spoonman

1,085 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Midnight oil? That'll be me then, too. Not for Emap though, thankfully.

So did you work at Lynchwood on the top floor just after Emap moved? I was a production editor back then. You could probably hear my swearing from wherever you sat...

bacardi

2,235 posts

276 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Bacardi, Spoonman, where are you guys?



Mike, I'm on the Essex/Sufflok border. One of my clients is a company called Aceville, in Colchester. Not in the same league as Emap but a good cross section of mags, no motoring tho'.

They do their own repro, still to film at the moment. As Spoonman said earlier, mag publishing can be a little slow on the uptake. As a freelancer you see different ways of working. Using transparent layered PS files straight into InDesign, no clipping paths, straight to pdf with built in distilling, surely has to be the way to go?

My Griff's Blackberry rather than red by the way. Putting my oil lamp out now.

k27

186 posts

278 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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Using Chimera 6 here, very fast and stable, only ocassional sites it does not like.

markda

796 posts

258 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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While were on the subject is anyone else out there using a Sun, Solaris desktop?

I have tried both Mozilla nd Netscape 7, both give me layout problems.

Bodo

12,375 posts

266 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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markda said: While were on the subject is anyone else out there using a Sun, Solaris desktop?

I have tried both Mozilla nd Netscape 7, both give me layout problems.


Have you tried to patch it first?

http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/show.pl?target=patchpage

sparks

Original Poster:

1,217 posts

279 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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Thanks for your help.

I have upgraded to Netscape 7.01 and it seems O.K. (well for PH, though I know other stuff won't work/it will crash). IE 5.2.2 will not size the 'what's new' page properly, otherwise it is fine.

Sparks

Rosso Paul

1,080 posts

267 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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k27 said: Using Chimera 6 here, very fast and stable, only ocassional sites it does not like.


Just downloaded and installed Chimera - definitely quicker than IE & Netscape, but the best bit is I can now see pictures in threads that only display as white squares with a read dot in them in IE and Netscape. Yippee!

MikeyT

16,541 posts

271 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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Paul, where did you download from? Sorry, I'd do a bit of surfing but too busy, got stuff to get away this pm.

A link would be great ...

Bodo

12,375 posts

266 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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MikeyT said: Paul, where did you download from? Sorry, I'd do a bit of surfing but too busy, got stuff to get away this pm.

A link would be great ...


www.mozilla.org/projects/chimera/

mmmmmhh, chimera