Virusised!

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gorvid

22,233 posts

226 months

Friday 14th July 2006
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Nod 32 isn't free is it??

Scraggles

7,619 posts

225 months

Saturday 15th July 2006
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NOD 32 is not free, there is a trial for 30 days, I then paid £54 for 3 years licence.

It works, it flashes up it has found a trojan or virus and then asks if it can kill it, which it does.

I also use outpost firewall, it is also paid for and think costs about £20 per year.

What do you want, an anti virus that is free and picks up most infections or one that is not free and picks up all of them ?

There are cracked versions on the net, but with av software I dont want cracks

annodomini2

6,867 posts

252 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Scraggles said:
NOD 32 is not free, there is a trial for 30 days, I then paid £54 for 3 years licence.

It works, it flashes up it has found a trojan or virus and then asks if it can kill it, which it does.

I also use outpost firewall, it is also paid for and think costs about £20 per year.

What do you want, an anti virus that is free and picks up most infections or one that is not free and picks up all of them ?

There are cracked versions on the net, but with av software I dont want cracks


There is a free version, see the link I posted.

jamieboy

5,911 posts

230 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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annodomini2 said:
There is a free version, see the link I posted.


That link says it's shareware, $39 to license it.

annodomini2

6,867 posts

252 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Saabyfox said:
annodomini2 said:
Saabyfox said:
Best advice with all viruses and spyware removal tools- once it has detected something and potentially removed it, reboot your machine and Run the program again; alot of malicious files will try to reinstall upon reboot, so you need to be 100% certain it has actually got rid of the threat by scanning again.

One of the good things about Norton/Symantec AV is that it runs in Windows Safe mode- you can remove alot of viruses and spyware in safeware effectively. I always keep an install of this handy just for this purpose.


I'm sorry but Norton is CRAP! end of story.

AVG is Good, but I have found NOD32(free) to very good aswell.


Stop making generalisations- Its not crap. - Nortons engine is excellent- maybe the Home user interface is poor, and the corporate version is slower than some competitors, but properly configured it is excellent. Symantec has the corporate market dominance due to its deployment capabilities, client management and solid virus detection techniques.
I use a combination of Sophos , Kaspersky and Symantec for my work laptop- AVG is good for the home user. Also try Avira AV.

What i was mentioning is that Norton is one of the few AV engines that will run in windows safe mode. This is a lifesaver at times when you have a virus or spyware integrated into the windows shell. Install Norton on an infected machine, update the patterns, reboot in safe mode and run a scan, and it will detect and remove viruses that other AV /s[pyware tools cannot. Then uninstall it, and update your existing AV.

Most virus outbreaks that i have dealt with over the years has been down to 2 things; Poorly configured AV polices, and client software that has not been updated. Human IT admin errors, not usually the fault of the software at all.


The main problem with Norton is it wraps itself around your system and literally strangles your computer. You see a significant performance difference in the operation of the computer, this may not be an issue for yourself, but for many it is.

The second major problem with Norton is its prevelance, as you probably know it is quite widely used, this makes it a target and viruses are specifically written to target it. You may get a update at a later point, but if your computer is already infected then the potential damage could have already been done. So the question then is it worth it? And are you getting your monies worth?

1. Ok you can run in safe mode, but if it had detected the virus before infection we wouldn't have a need for this.

2. If the system can be configured with such policies then maybe the creators haven't thought about the market very well, most joe public haven't got a clue when it comes to computers, let alone viruses and such. Therefore if they expect the consumer to configure this system they are blind to the needs of the user. Not to mention that it would probably make the computer even slower to add the needed level of protection.

3. I will check a few of the ones I have installed on my various PC's and let you know which will run in safe mode, as have you have said yourself, you don't run it generally only in safe mode, which if there are other available then its a bit pointless really isn't it?

Parrot of Doom

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23,075 posts

235 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Well I use NOD32, paid for a year for it a couple of months ago.

It didn't detect this virus, although Spyware Doctor recognised it as a trojan. NOD32 did detect several instances of virii trying to run once the icky file was on my system, and it did stop them easily enough but it didn't prevent the initial file from running, in fact even when I scanned the file by right clicking it, it found nothing.

Anyhow, Spyware Doctor took a while, but finally removed all traces of it. I have a minor issue with a few tracking cookies continually reinstalling themselves, but no trojans or anything else. Nothing I have run so far has managed to find out why these cookies (all low-risk) keep coming back.

Oh and I used to use NAV, but it was a massive drain on system resources. I eventually removed it when the licence expired, together with ZA (as it intefered with Steam), now I run NOD32 with the XP firewall.

Edited by Parrot of Doom on Monday 17th July 12:03

Darth Dave

2,253 posts

233 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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I use the best virus removal tool of the lot - Fdisk.

It's easier to keep nothing of value on your primary HDD and blat it if the system has a major problem or starts running badly.

well i think it is anyway....

Scraggles

7,619 posts

225 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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maybe safe surfing and when going to sites that are probably virus infected, to run scans on the downloaded files, I do that for all suspect files and hope that it all works

also run prevx anti intrusion software that pops up if something tries to install itself, like say a trojan or virus writing to protected areas