KDE Gnome

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nickfrp

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5,094 posts

236 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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right whast the difference then team.. i have just installed Ubuntu and was thinking about installing kubuntu but dont want to ruin a nice set up (i say nice all i have done is update the install i done 10 mins ago)

THANKS

Mr E

21,632 posts

260 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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Different windows manager.

You can simply install both, try both and then stick with the one you like the most.

I'm currently using Beryl/Gnome and it's rather good.

zaktoo

805 posts

208 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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I suggest you play with both, and use whichever you prefer. I use Gnome purely on idealogical grounds that go back to when KDE used QT and there was a kerfuffle about the licencing. Gnome is irritatingly dumbed-down now, but I get around most of the problems that causes by using IceWM (IIRC) instead of the default Metacity, which really needs to be taken out back & shot, frankly... So that's sort of a 3rd option - Gnome/KDE with a non-standard WM.

HTH

Ciao

Zak

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

236 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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This is KDE


This is GNOME



IMHO, KDE is more 'Windows' like, it has a 'start menu' of sorts from which you can access programs. GNOME is a bit of everything, a little OS X (bar at top n' bottom) a little Windowsy...

To be fair either will run anything (I use a few KDE apps in GNOME) thanks to integration and shared module support.

If you want to install KDE on Ubuntu take a flick through Synaptics for "kubuntu" it'll download and replace some of the graphics (the bootsplashes) and drop off a KDE install in the process. You can then select either a GNOME or KDE session from the login manager.
I haven't tried it but I'm willing to bet if you searched for "kde base" or "kde main" in synaptics you'd find it without the need to replace the splash screens.

zaktoo

805 posts

208 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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Mr E said:

I'm currently using Beryl/Gnome and it's rather good.


Are you liking Beryl? How configurable is it?

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

236 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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zaktoo said:
Mr E said:

I'm currently using Beryl/Gnome and it's rather good.


Are you liking Beryl? How configurable is it?


It's a wee bit unstable I'm finding, not a lot but the occasional fallover and you find yourself back to normal Gnome. Doesn't like waking up from suspend (laptop user). But I rather like it personally

Mr E

21,632 posts

260 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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ThePassenger said:
zaktoo said:
Mr E said:

I'm currently using Beryl/Gnome and it's rather good.


Are you liking Beryl? How configurable is it?


It's a wee bit unstable I'm finding, not a lot but the occasional fallover and you find yourself back to normal Gnome. Doesn't like waking up from suspend (laptop user). But I rather like it personally



Pretty much what he said. Very tweakable, surprisingly easy to setup, and with all the eye candy on (and I mean all of it) performance is fine on an elderly 256MB FX5200 at 1680x1050.

I like it, although occasionally it doesn't start up quite right (1 boot in 20), and very very very occasionally it does something silly. The nice thing is, you define fallback windows managers, so if it fails to start or does something silly, you just drop back to standard Gnome, fix it and go back to Beryl via a tray icon. Absolute worst case, <ctrl> <alt> <backspace> will restart X entirely without needing the machine to be booted.

It's all good.

nickfrp

Original Poster:

5,094 posts

236 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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thanks team. im just messing aorund with them both onow on 2 virtual machines

now installing ubuntu server to see if i can work some magic

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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I use fedora with gnome on my vmware linux box here and gnome is cloud9

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

236 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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Silent1 said:
I use fedora with gnome on my vmware linux box here and gnome is cloud9


Must admit I used to be a die hard KDE person, but since switching the laptop to Ubuntu... rather impressed with Gnome and not bothered to install it.

Although I'm investigating the old "How do I make X look like Windows" problem for the inlaws, so far Beryl+Vista theme's ticked the box just need to skin the underlying OS. Don't ask... this is less hassle than having to show them everything... five times... including how to click on an icon.

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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ThePassenger said:
Silent1 said:
I use fedora with gnome on my vmware linux box here and gnome is cloud9


Must admit I used to be a die hard KDE person, but since switching the laptop to Ubuntu... rather impressed with Gnome and not bothered to install it.

Although I'm investigating the old "How do I make X look like Windows" problem for the inlaws, so far Beryl+Vista theme's ticked the box just need to skin the underlying OS. Don't ask... this is less hassle than having to show them everything... five times... including how to click on an icon.



Ah yes the age old, "so if i click this icon and wait something happens?" "yeah" "NO WAI" etc etc

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

236 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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Silent1 said:
ThePassenger said:
Silent1 said:
I use fedora with gnome on my vmware linux box here and gnome is cloud9


Must admit I used to be a die hard KDE person, but since switching the laptop to Ubuntu... rather impressed with Gnome and not bothered to install it.

Although I'm investigating the old "How do I make X look like Windows" problem for the inlaws, so far Beryl+Vista theme's ticked the box just need to skin the underlying OS. Don't ask... this is less hassle than having to show them everything... five times... including how to click on an icon.



Ah yes the age old, "so if i click this icon and wait something happens?" "yeah" "NO WAI" etc etc


Pretty much, they aren't 'old and forgetful' but well. They went from Win2k to WinXP and needed to be shown how the where there programs were again (i.e. the Start menu)... they aren't technophobes either... but oddly enough with computers it must be totally different each time.

Mr E

21,632 posts

260 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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ThePassenger said:


Pretty much, they aren't 'old and forgetful' but well. They went from Win2k to WinXP and needed to be shown how the where there programs were again (i.e. the Start menu)... they aren't technophobes either... but oddly enough with computers it must be totally different each time.



I tend to configure 3 icons. Email, Internet and VPN so I can sort it out when they break it.

What the Email and internet programs are is largely irrelevant.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

236 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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Mr E said:
ThePassenger said:


Pretty much, they aren't 'old and forgetful' but well. They went from Win2k to WinXP and needed to be shown how the where there programs were again (i.e. the Start menu)... they aren't technophobes either... but oddly enough with computers it must be totally different each time.



I tend to configure 3 icons. Email, Internet and VPN so I can sort it out when they break it.

What the Email and internet programs are is largely irrelevant.


Tried it. The 'loose' everything and need to be shown from first principals (this is keyboard, this is a mouse) again. I'm doing this because they're systems are running XP dodgy edition; thanks to someone who will remain nameless... and WGA has finally caught up with them.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

236 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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For those wondering WTF we're talking about with Beryl+Gnome... behold the ultimate eye candy (that is all it does... eye candy):



rebelstar

1,146 posts

245 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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Beryl was great for me when I used it. Unfortunately I've had to leave it behind for a while - I've got myself a nice 3 monitor desktop and Beryl doesn't live happily with Xinerama Here's hoping XRandR 1.2 fixes all of that when it (supposedly) officially appears in XOrg 7.3...

Mr E

21,632 posts

260 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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ThePassenger said:
For those wondering WTF we're talking about with Beryl+Gnome... behold the ultimate eye candy (that is all it does... eye candy):


Kick ass eye candy though, you have to admit. Knocks Vista Aero into next week.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

236 months

Saturday 5th May 2007
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Mr E said:
ThePassenger said:
For those wondering WTF we're talking about with Beryl+Gnome... behold the ultimate eye candy (that is all it does... eye candy):


Kick ass eye candy though, you have to admit. Knocks Vista Aero into next week.


No comment. No experience of Vista. But I do find it fun that Beryl is doing all this OpenGL lift n' shift on early 3D IGP solutions and Vista can't or won't by all accounts.