Tablet style computers

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freddies_dad

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258 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Hi,

Possibly (probably!) a dumb question but does anyone know whether, in general, those tablet type computers where the screen pivots round the screen is completely touch-sensitve. That is, can you press the any OK button etc on the screen - or does the application in question have to be specifically written to deal with touch-screens?

If that makes any sense at all!

Cheers,
Phil

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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They work in my experience, on any application without it being coded specifically for touchscreens.

freddies_dad

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Monday 13th August 2007
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Plotloss said:
They work in my experience, on any application without it being coded specifically for touchscreens.
Cool! Thanks Plotters, I'd hoped you'd be around to answer that one.

Cheers! thumbup

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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If you're looking for wireless touch screens...

whistle

freddies_dad

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Monday 13th August 2007
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Plotloss said:
If you're looking for wireless touch screens...

whistle
Whassem then? I'll PM you what I'm planning on...

Noger

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250 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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The answer is No and Yes !

Depends on the type of tablet, but most PC tablets have active digitisers, which means that they don't respond to your fingers prodding at the screen. So no, they are not "touch sensitive" they repspond to a pen.

But yes, if you have a passive digitiser or the pen, then they work exactly like a mouse, that is how the operating system sees them. So anything that can be prodded with a mouse, will work exactly the same with a pen.

It is only when you want to "ink enable" applications that you need special code. So MS Excel allows you to scribble in cells, the Open Office spreadsheet doesn't.

freddies_dad

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Monday 13th August 2007
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Noger said:
The answer is No and Yes !

Depends on the type of tablet, but most PC tablets have active digitisers, which means that they don't respond to your fingers prodding at the screen. So no, they are not "touch sensitive" they repspond to a pen.

But yes, if you have a passive digitiser or the pen, then they work exactly like a mouse, that is how the operating system sees them. So anything that can be prodded with a mouse, will work exactly the same with a pen.

It is only when you want to "ink enable" applications that you need special code. So MS Excel allows you to scribble in cells, the Open Office spreadsheet doesn't.
OK. Do you mean it's similar to my graphics tablet thingy? As in, the pen has some kind of gubbins in it that allows the pad to determine where the pen is?

No "ink enable" needed - just the ability to "press" OK, Cancel whatever. IYSWIM.

Cheers!

Noger

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250 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Yes, exactly like the Wacom type pen things. Not all tablets use this, the tiny Fujitsu P1610 is a "touch" screen, but most of a laptop size do, otherwise you get vectoring from resting your hand on the screen.

roadsweeper

3,786 posts

275 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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My company supplies a range of touchscreen hardware. YHM. smile

rdhawkins

322 posts

284 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Plotloss said:
If you're looking for wireless touch screens...

whistle
[Hijack]

Plotloss,

I may be interested in something like this myself. My missus has tasked me with the job of replacing her scrappy calendar that is stuck to the fridge with something more high tech. What I want to do is mount a tablet screen to the wall (PC hidden somewhere) and have it showing a full screen browser window of Google Calendar.

Ideally I'd like to quite large (22"+) to make it easily viewable plus it has to look half decent.

I presume that a touch screen is not the same as a screen compatible with XP Tablet Edition? Also is there a limit to the size of the tablet compatible display as they don't seem very big?

[/Hijack]

Regards,

Rob

ariel

423 posts

259 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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Hi Plotloss, what's your view (pardon the pun) on daylight readable touchscreens?
My idea is to install a 7" screen in the aeroplane and run from laptop on the floor for navigation.
Should I just choose the Samsung Q1 as the simpler solution? $800 from the US.

Edited by ariel on Tuesday 14th August 11:35

Hut49

3,544 posts

263 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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rdhawkins said:

What I want to do is mount a tablet screen to the wall (PC hidden somewhere) and have it showing a full screen browser window of Google Calendar.
Samsung beat you to it hehe

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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Rob - Big touchscreens arent easy to come by, AMX make one but its proprietary (though a calendar app could be written for it) but its very very very expensive - five figures. A compromise might be something like the Viewsonic V212. It runs XP Embedded and if you need more meat than that can provide the RDP client allows pass through to a full fat desktop.

Ariel - Not a huge amount of experience in daylight readable stuff, I did have a look at a Toughbook with the tablet daylight touchscreen and that was astonishing at an astonishing price admittedly. I'm about to embark on a project using Samsung Q1s so will have some in for configuration, when that happens I'll take one outside to test it. I'll report back with findings.

HTH smile

Ace-T

7,719 posts

256 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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Yet another thread hikack wink

Matt, you involved in Surface in any way? And do you know if the hardware going to be proprietory or just a pc in a table in effect?

Ace-T smile

Plotloss

67,280 posts

271 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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Ace-T said:
Yet another thread hikack wink

Matt, you involved in Surface in any way? And do you know if the hardware going to be proprietory or just a pc in a table in effect?

Ace-T smile
I've seen it but as a HMI I think it will be a while before it reaches the automation market. Its a great toy and a great looking thing but probably overkill for control applications.

On a personal note I'd like to see Surface mated with that resolution independent technology that they acquired last year (the video was posted on here) as that would just be amazing. Resolution free content in a free HMI environment, truly the future of computing.

Now if you'll excuse me, I appear to have soiled my tank top.