iPhone vs PalmPre War has already been won.

[6655321]

jamoor said:

I have different accounts for business and personal, when replying I want to reply from different email addresses.
Eh? I have different inboxes for different accounts

Also re: the checking of email, I just have to take it out of the holster and the email is there in front of me, it also has a handy LED to let you know if you have recieved a message.
It will beep when you get a new message, and shows how many new messages on the icon

Different buzzes and beeps for different types of messages (IM, PIN, Email)
Yup, different beeps, etc, for different application notifications

IMO the blackberries are designed for communcation, the iphones seem to be designed around music, browsing and the like.
How? You say this, but what do YOU see as the difference? The iPhone does all the communicating you want, as well as music, browsing, and the like.

Edit - I guess if you didn't need your curve for email, Messaging etc then you probbably don't see its strengths.
I did use it, but it was clunky, and I never liked the keyboard

Edited by jamoor on Sunday 25th October 15:36

You havene't actually used an iPhone have you, or you would know most of these questions.

Edited by 6655321 on Sunday 25th October 15:42

[jamoor]

6655321 said:

jamoor said:

I have different accounts for business and personal, when replying I want to reply from different email addresses.
Eh? I have different inboxes for different accounts

Also re: the checking of email, I just have to take it out of the holster and the email is there in front of me, it also has a handy LED to let you know if you have recieved a message.
It will beep when you get a new message, and shows how many new messages on the icon

Different buzzes and beeps for different types of messages (IM, PIN, Email)
Yup, different beeps, etc, for different application notifications

IMO the blackberries are designed for communcation, the iphones seem to be designed around music, browsing and the like.
How? You say this, but what do YOU see as the difference? The iPhone does all the communicating you want, as well as music, browsing, and the like.

Edit - I guess if you didn't need your curve for email, Messaging etc then you probbably don't see its strengths.
I did use it, but it was clunky, and I never liked the keyboard

Edited by jamoor on Sunday 25th October 15:36

You havene't actually used an iPhone have you, or you would know most of these questions.

Edited by 6655321 on Sunday 25th October 15:42

I owned one for nine months...

I guess you should borrow a curve and see how customisable it actually is compared to an iphone.

[6655321]

You owned one for 9 months, and didn't know if it has a single inbox, or multiple? Didn't know if there were IM applications? Different tones for different application notifications? Seriously, you want us to take your viewpoint seriously NOW?

[jamoor]

6655321 said:

You owned one for 9 months, and didn't know if it has a single inbox, or multiple? Didn't know if there were IM applications? Different tones for different application notifications? Seriously, you want us to take your viewpoint seriously NOW?

You really think I didn't know it had single or multiple inboxes? Do you think those questions were actually me wanting to know more about the iphone or making a point???

I don't believe you owned a curve, or you used one for 2 minutes in a shop.

[6655321]

jamoor said:

6655321 said:

You owned one for 9 months, and didn't know if it has a single inbox, or multiple? Didn't know if there were IM applications? Different tones for different application notifications? Seriously, you want us to take your viewpoint seriously NOW?

You really think I didn't know it had single or multiple inboxes? Do you think those questions were actually me wanting to know more about the iphone or making a point???
Well, I utterly missed the point then. Could you please explain what the point was?

I don't believe you owned a curve, or you used one for 2 minutes in a shop.

Well, I haven't asked questions that someone who owned one wouldn't know. That does seem odd, fellow.

[LDNrevs]

jamoor said:

6655321 said:

jamoor said:

I have different accounts for business and personal, when replying I want to reply from different email addresses.
Eh? I have different inboxes for different accounts

Also re: the checking of email, I just have to take it out of the holster and the email is there in front of me, it also has a handy LED to let you know if you have recieved a message.
It will beep when you get a new message, and shows how many new messages on the icon

Different buzzes and beeps for different types of messages (IM, PIN, Email)
Yup, different beeps, etc, for different application notifications

IMO the blackberries are designed for communcation, the iphones seem to be designed around music, browsing and the like.
How? You say this, but what do YOU see as the difference? The iPhone does all the communicating you want, as well as music, browsing, and the like.

Edit - I guess if you didn't need your curve for email, Messaging etc then you probbably don't see its strengths.
I did use it, but it was clunky, and I never liked the keyboard

Edited by jamoor on Sunday 25th October 15:36

You havene't actually used an iPhone have you, or you would know most of these questions.

Edited by 6655321 on Sunday 25th October 15:42

I owned one for nine months...

I guess you should borrow a curve and see how customisable it actually is compared to an iphone.

Horses for courses but IMO, every Blackberry I've used - and I've owned a Curve - is a joke compared to the iPhone. Yes a BB is good for email... and that's where it ends. iPhone changed the game and since it's launch, no-one has been able to catch up. I agree that one can argue most APPs are usless but with regard useful APPs, no other platform comes close. Multimedia is unrivalled and yes I've played with every 'iPhone killer' as part of my job and trust me, those suggesting that other platforms have caught up are simply wrong. iPhone is the benchmark and I'm no Apple fan.

Also, I'd like to add that whoever said the iPhone is a toy unless being jailbroken is as daft as a brush.

[jamoor]

6655321 said:

jamoor said:

6655321 said:

You owned one for 9 months, and didn't know if it has a single inbox, or multiple? Didn't know if there were IM applications? Different tones for different application notifications? Seriously, you want us to take your viewpoint seriously NOW?

You really think I didn't know it had single or multiple inboxes? Do you think those questions were actually me wanting to know more about the iphone or making a point???
Well, I utterly missed the point then. Could you please explain what the point was?

I don't believe you owned a curve, or you used one for 2 minutes in a shop.

Well, I haven't asked questions that someone who owned one wouldn't know. That does seem odd, fellow.

Well let's expand on what you didn't like about the curve, or was it the fact that it had a keyboard??

The bottom line is this - iphone is IMO, GOOD at Browsing (maybe music too), the blackberry devices are GOOD at communicating, which the iphone IME failed at due to the lack of push email, it's email handling was also poor and offered no push for my service (google although that's changed) and multiple inboxes are a pain in the ass as i had to switch back and forward between them (another problem I remember was marking items read, I couldnt mark 3-4 messages as read at one time) can you do that now? The communcations aspect of the iphone simply didn't have a patch on the BB.

I can also link my facebook contacts, my phone contacts, google talk contacts and pin contacts together, I can't remember a feature on the iphone that let you do that. There are numerous shortfalls with the communications stuff on the iphone.

[jamoor]

LDNrevs said:

jamoor said:

6655321 said:

jamoor said:

I have different accounts for business and personal, when replying I want to reply from different email addresses.
Eh? I have different inboxes for different accounts

Also re: the checking of email, I just have to take it out of the holster and the email is there in front of me, it also has a handy LED to let you know if you have recieved a message.
It will beep when you get a new message, and shows how many new messages on the icon

Different buzzes and beeps for different types of messages (IM, PIN, Email)
Yup, different beeps, etc, for different application notifications

IMO the blackberries are designed for communcation, the iphones seem to be designed around music, browsing and the like.
How? You say this, but what do YOU see as the difference? The iPhone does all the communicating you want, as well as music, browsing, and the like.

Edit - I guess if you didn't need your curve for email, Messaging etc then you probbably don't see its strengths.
I did use it, but it was clunky, and I never liked the keyboard

Edited by jamoor on Sunday 25th October 15:36

You havene't actually used an iPhone have you, or you would know most of these questions.

Edited by 6655321 on Sunday 25th October 15:42

I owned one for nine months...

I guess you should borrow a curve and see how customisable it actually is compared to an iphone.

Horses for courses but IMO, every Blackberry I've used - and I've owned a Curve - is a joke compared to the iPhone. Yes a BB is good for email... and that's where it ends. iPhone changed the game and since it's launch, no-one has been able to catch up. I agree that one can argue most APPs are usless but with regard useful APPs, no other platform comes close. Multimedia is unrivalled and yes I've played with every 'iPhone killer' as part of my job and trust me, those suggesting that other platforms have caught up are simply wrong. iPhone is the benchmark and I'm no Apple fan.

Also, I'd like to add that whoever said the iPhone is a toy unless being jailbroken is as daft as a brush.

Email, calendaring, messaging, essentially business functions.

I would also disagree that noone has been able to catch up, look at android and WebOS devices, they are pretty damn close, and not leagues behind like they once were.

[6655321]

jamoor said:

Well let's expand on what you didn't like about the curve, or was it the fact that it had a keyboard??

The bottom line is this - iphone is IMO, GOOD at Browsing (maybe music too), the blackberry devices are GOOD at communicating, which the iphone IME failed at due to the lack of push email, it's email handling was also poor and offered no push for my service (google although that's changed) and multiple inboxes are a pain in the ass as i had to switch back and forward between them (another problem I remember was marking items read, I couldnt mark 3-4 messages as read at one time) can you do that now? The communcations aspect of the iphone simply didn't have a patch on the BB.

I can also link my facebook contacts, my phone contacts, google talk contacts and pin contacts together, I can't remember a feature on the iphone that let you do that. There are numerous shortfalls with the communications stuff on the iphone.

Keyboards? What? This curve?



Sorry... I'm ignoring you now, as you seem to be a bit odd.

[jamoor]

6655321 said:

jamoor said:

Well let's expand on what you didn't like about the curve, or was it the fact that it had a keyboard??

The bottom line is this - iphone is IMO, GOOD at Browsing (maybe music too), the blackberry devices are GOOD at communicating, which the iphone IME failed at due to the lack of push email, it's email handling was also poor and offered no push for my service (google although that's changed) and multiple inboxes are a pain in the ass as i had to switch back and forward between them (another problem I remember was marking items read, I couldnt mark 3-4 messages as read at one time) can you do that now? The communcations aspect of the iphone simply didn't have a patch on the BB.

I can also link my facebook contacts, my phone contacts, google talk contacts and pin contacts together, I can't remember a feature on the iphone that let you do that. There are numerous shortfalls with the communications stuff on the iphone.

Keyboards? What? This curve?



Sorry... I'm ignoring you now, as you seem to be a bit odd.

[6655321]

OK.. You're weird. What is your point about the keyboard?

[LDNrevs]

jamoor said:

LDNrevs said:

Horses for courses but IMO, every Blackberry I've used - and I've owned a Curve - is a joke compared to the iPhone. Yes a BB is good for email... and that's where it ends. iPhone changed the game and since it's launch, no-one has been able to catch up. I agree that one can argue most APPs are usless but with regard useful APPs, no other platform comes close. Multimedia is unrivalled and yes I've played with every 'iPhone killer' as part of my job and trust me, those suggesting that other platforms have caught up are simply wrong. iPhone is the benchmark and I'm no Apple fan.

Also, I'd like to add that whoever said the iPhone is a toy unless being jailbroken is as daft as a brush.

Email, calendaring, messaging, essentially business functions.

I would also disagree that noone has been able to catch up, look at android and WebOS devices, they are pretty damn close, and not leagues behind like they once were.

Disagree with all of those features being better on the BB... it's a myth that the iPhone is not good as a business phone bar the security issues where the iPhone is definetly behind the BB.

Android is good and looks like it will be brilliant, no doubt about that but for now it's not as good. It seems that we actually agree on this.

Edited by LDNrevs on Sunday 25th October 16:27

[SunderJimmy]

They need to lower the ridiculous costs to develop the applications.

[LDNrevs]

SunderJimmy said:

They need to lower the ridiculous costs to develop the applications.

Who does, Apple? You know that they give you the kit you need to develop APPs yourself. There's been many a success story by people who had no programming experience. Also, depending on your requirements you can use an APP platform / CMS to create and manage your APP for very little cost.

[page3]

I disagree that the BB has better email functionality than the iPhone. Certainly HTML email support is very poor on the BB and this is very important to us. Far better on the iPhone.

[jamoor]

page3 said:

I disagree that the BB has better email functionality than the iPhone. Certainly HTML email support is very poor on the BB and this is very important to us. Far better on the iPhone.

LOL

I am really tempted to make a video and stick on youtube to get my points accross.

[6655321]

jamoor said:

page3 said:

I disagree that the BB has better email functionality than the iPhone. Certainly HTML email support is very poor on the BB and this is very important to us. Far better on the iPhone.

LOL

I am really tempted to make a video and stick on youtube to get my points accross.

Go on then.

[jamoor]

6655321 said:

jamoor said:

page3 said:

I disagree that the BB has better email functionality than the iPhone. Certainly HTML email support is very poor on the BB and this is very important to us. Far better on the iPhone.

LOL

I am really tempted to make a video and stick on youtube to get my points accross.

Go on then.

I think I might, question is all my personal stuff will show up, is there any way of fuzzing it out, also what should I use to edit the video?

[6655321]

Windows movie maker, or imovie would probably do a basic one.

[page3]

jamoor said:

page3 said:

I disagree that the BB has better email functionality than the iPhone. Certainly HTML email support is very poor on the BB and this is very important to us. Far better on the iPhone.

LOL

I am really tempted to make a video and stick on youtube to get my points accross.

Eah?

I'll tell our CEO that she made a mistake then and ask for her iPhone back? The one she especially requested in addition to her BB as she needed to see HTML emails properly.