Samsung Galaxy S II
Discussion
GreigM said:
For me:
I hate to answer all these for fear of being labelled a fanboy, which I'd like to think I'm not. but I've tried to above.- Built-in Google Navigation - Granted the iPhone doesn't have it built in, but the available aps are superior IME (TomTom)
- Removable storage (i.e. can swap memory cards - what happens on the iphone when you run out of space?) - Can't say I've ever run out of space so has never been an issue.
- Widgets (a big game-changer compared to the inanimate home screens on iphone) - Honestly can't see the point of them, I've tried using them but all they seem to do is hog screen real estate and chew resources.
- The ability to change keyboards (I disagree with your statement about the built-in keyboards...swype is outstanding) - we'll agree to differ on that, I found swype an amusing novelty, but nothing useable.
- Not being tethered to itunes and Kies Air - being able to transfer files like this from any PC is superb - If you don't want to use iTunes you no longer have to on iOS5, plus there are 3rd party programs to browse the folder structure of your iPhone if you really want to.
- Flash - dead so a moot point.
- Proper app integration - such as being asked which dialer to use to make a call once skype is installed - Not experienced this so can't comment.
- The Notification Bar - no equivalent on iPhone and soooooo useful - granted the toggles are pretty handy, but a simple jailbreak will provide this functionallity.
- Removable/changeable battery - I travel for long periods with no opportunity to charge - fair comment, but never been an issue for me, plus there's the plethora of aftermarket battery boosters available.
- Speed - it destroys any version of the iPhone in speed, especially if using heavy websites and multiple applications - my 3GS was as quick IME.
- Automation via Tasker - yes an app, but its power is incredible and simply can't be replicated on iOS - never heard of it, I'll take a look.
Richyvrlimited said:
GreigM said:
For me:
I hate to answer all these for fear of being labelled a fanboy, which I'd like to think I'm not. but I've tried to above.- Built-in Google Navigation - Granted the iPhone doesn't have it built in, but the available aps are superior IME (TomTom)
- Removable storage (i.e. can swap memory cards - what happens on the iphone when you run out of space?) - Can't say I've ever run out of space so has never been an issue.
- Widgets (a big game-changer compared to the inanimate home screens on iphone) - Honestly can't see the point of them, I've tried using them but all they seem to do is hog screen real estate and chew resources.
- The ability to change keyboards (I disagree with your statement about the built-in keyboards...swype is outstanding) - we'll agree to differ on that, I found swype an amusing novelty, but nothing useable.
- Not being tethered to itunes and Kies Air - being able to transfer files like this from any PC is superb - If you don't want to use iTunes you no longer have to on iOS5, plus there are 3rd party programs to browse the folder structure of your iPhone if you really want to.
- Flash - dead so a moot point.
- Proper app integration - such as being asked which dialer to use to make a call once skype is installed - Not experienced this so can't comment.
- The Notification Bar - no equivalent on iPhone and soooooo useful - granted the toggles are pretty handy, but a simple jailbreak will provide this functionallity.
- Removable/changeable battery - I travel for long periods with no opportunity to charge - fair comment, but never been an issue for me, plus there's the plethora of aftermarket battery boosters available.
- Speed - it destroys any version of the iPhone in speed, especially if using heavy websites and multiple applications - my 3GS was as quick IME.
- Automation via Tasker - yes an app, but its power is incredible and simply can't be replicated on iOS - never heard of it, I'll take a look.
Care to comment on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
Teppic said:
I would suggest you head over to XDA Developers and enquire there.
Personally I would re-flash the appropriate firmware via ODIN (there is a thread on XDA with all the official firmwares, a link to ODIN and instructions on how to flash the ROM, although it's a bit daunting at first, what with there being many ROMs to choose from) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1...
Bloody hell! Definitely going to have to do some reading to find out which firmware ROM to use! That is mental! I reckon once I have that decided, it should be quite easy (famous last words...)Personally I would re-flash the appropriate firmware via ODIN (there is a thread on XDA with all the official firmwares, a link to ODIN and instructions on how to flash the ROM, although it's a bit daunting at first, what with there being many ROMs to choose from) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1...
Not sure why you needed to come here to explain what you like about your phone, perhaps you should head to Starbucks for a frothy coffee and chill Richyvrlimited said:
GreigM said:
For me:
I hate to answer all these for fear of being labelled a fanboy, which I'd like to think I'm not. but I've tried to above.- Built-in Google Navigation - Granted the iPhone doesn't have it built in, but the available aps are superior IME (TomTom)
- Removable storage (i.e. can swap memory cards - what happens on the iphone when you run out of space?) - Can't say I've ever run out of space so has never been an issue.
- Widgets (a big game-changer compared to the inanimate home screens on iphone) - Honestly can't see the point of them, I've tried using them but all they seem to do is hog screen real estate and chew resources.
- The ability to change keyboards (I disagree with your statement about the built-in keyboards...swype is outstanding) - we'll agree to differ on that, I found swype an amusing novelty, but nothing useable.
- Not being tethered to itunes and Kies Air - being able to transfer files like this from any PC is superb - If you don't want to use iTunes you no longer have to on iOS5, plus there are 3rd party programs to browse the folder structure of your iPhone if you really want to.
- Flash - dead so a moot point.
- Proper app integration - such as being asked which dialer to use to make a call once skype is installed - Not experienced this so can't comment.
- The Notification Bar - no equivalent on iPhone and soooooo useful - granted the toggles are pretty handy, but a simple jailbreak will provide this functionallity.
- Removable/changeable battery - I travel for long periods with no opportunity to charge - fair comment, but never been an issue for me, plus there's the plethora of aftermarket battery boosters available.
- Speed - it destroys any version of the iPhone in speed, especially if using heavy websites and multiple applications - my 3GS was as quick IME.
- Automation via Tasker - yes an app, but its power is incredible and simply can't be replicated on iOS - never heard of it, I'll take a look.
1. - yes, Tom Tom is good, and offline, but it costs ££££ - free, fully integrated (can take calls while still running etc) for me wins hands down.
2. - but for many people its a big issue
3. - correctly set up you have 80% of your common information available without activating any apps
4. - I thought if you want to buy apps you still had to have itunes? Can you do everything without it? New tunes/movies etc?
5. - Flash is very much not dead, adobe might have decided to retire it, but many sites still use it and will do for longer than the current generation of devices will last
8. - I don't see jailbreaking as a suitable response to the device lacking functionality
9. - Having a booster hanging out of the end of your phone is just a nasty solution
Wing Commander said:
Teppic said:
I would suggest you head over to XDA Developers and enquire there.
Personally I would re-flash the appropriate firmware via ODIN (there is a thread on XDA with all the official firmwares, a link to ODIN and instructions on how to flash the ROM, although it's a bit daunting at first, what with there being many ROMs to choose from) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1...
Bloody hell! Definitely going to have to do some reading to find out which firmware ROM to use! That is mental! I reckon once I have that decided, it should be quite easy (famous last words...)Personally I would re-flash the appropriate firmware via ODIN (there is a thread on XDA with all the official firmwares, a link to ODIN and instructions on how to flash the ROM, although it's a bit daunting at first, what with there being many ROMs to choose from) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1...
I believe that XWKK2 or XWKK5 are the current firmwares of choice.
Oh, it might be worth investing in a USB Jig too. You can get them on eBay for a couple of quid - I got mine from here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140613132507. This is basically a modified USB Micro B plug that will enable you to force the phone in to download mode (simply by plugging it in and booting the phone) if things go tits up.
You won't need the stock kernels unless you have rooted your phone and need to reset the download counter in order to return it for warranty purposes (some root methods increase the download counter, which is checked if the phone is returned for a warranty fix). The USB Jig also has the added bonus of resetting this counter on the older bootloaders.
One last thing: Disclaimer - you do all of this at your own risk, etc. But from what you've posted about being stuck in a bootloop you've pretty much got nothing to lose.
GreigM said:
For me:
iphone 4s just as fast *edit* faster = http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-vs...- Built-in Google Navigation
- Removable storage (i.e. can swap memory cards - what happens on the iphone when you run out of space?)
- Widgets (a big game-changer compared to the inanimate home screens on iphone)
- The ability to change keyboards (I disagree with your statement about the built-in keyboards...swype is outstanding)
- Not being tethered to itunes and Kies Air - being able to transfer files like this from any PC is superb
- Flash
- Proper app integration - such as being asked which dialer to use to make a call once skype is installed
- The Notification Bar - no equivalent on iPhone and soooooo useful
- Removable/changeable battery - I travel for long periods with no opportunity to charge
- Speed - it destroys any version of the iPhone in speed, especially if using heavy websites and multiple applications
- Automation via Tasker - yes an app, but its power is incredible and simply can't be replicated on iOS
ios5 has notification bar, therefore all iphones have notification bar
widgets pointless
android market is pants, useless apps, and half as many to choose from
removable battery, wow, what do you do when you remove it?
automated fully through Siri
4s camera is and alwayds will be, better
Edited by dorme on Thursday 12th January 15:12
dorme said:
iphone 4s just as fast - Comparing a new phone against a year old phone... yawn..
ios5 has notification bar, therefore all iphones have notification bar - Its about time they caught up with android
widgets pointless - Couldnt have a phone without widgets, everything I want at a glance
android market is pants, useless apps, and half as many to choose from - Its got everything I want and need
removable battery, wow, what do you do when you remove it? - Flat battery out,charged battery in. Its not complicated
automated fully through Siri - Great gizmo for 30 minutes, nothing more. Android has the same anyway.
4s camera is and alwayds will be, better - My DSLR is and always will be better than both phones when I want quality shots.
ios5 has notification bar, therefore all iphones have notification bar - Its about time they caught up with android
widgets pointless - Couldnt have a phone without widgets, everything I want at a glance
android market is pants, useless apps, and half as many to choose from - Its got everything I want and need
removable battery, wow, what do you do when you remove it? - Flat battery out,charged battery in. Its not complicated
automated fully through Siri - Great gizmo for 30 minutes, nothing more. Android has the same anyway.
4s camera is and alwayds will be, better - My DSLR is and always will be better than both phones when I want quality shots.
Edited by dorme on Thursday 12th January 15:12
R60EST said:
I think you've inadvertently made yourself look (more) like a fanboy with that reply .
Care to comment on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
Glass smashes whilst plastic bounces, no news there.Care to comment on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
Just because the screen cracks doesn't make the iPhone badly put together, it's a much nicer piece of hardware and much better put together IMO.
I'm not saying the SGS2 is bad, merely that I think the iPhone feels higher quality.
Richyvrlimited said:
Glass smashes whilst plastic bounces, no news there.
Just because the screen cracks doesn't make the iPhone badly put together, it's a much nicer piece of hardware and much better put together IMO.
I'm not saying the SGS2 is bad, merely that I think the iPhone feels higher quality.
the iphone is definatly made better and feels solid.Just because the screen cracks doesn't make the iPhone badly put together, it's a much nicer piece of hardware and much better put together IMO.
I'm not saying the SGS2 is bad, merely that I think the iPhone feels higher quality.
most android fanboys either havent tried an iphone out or cant afford one so have irrational hate for i devices, you only have to google "android vs iphone" to get reems of people trying to defend android phones, i think it speaks volumes.
Richyvrlimited said:
Glass smashes whilst plastic bounces, no news there.
Just because the screen cracks doesn't make the iPhone badly put together, it's a much nicer piece of hardware and much better put together IMO.
I'm not saying the SGS2 is bad, merely that I think the iPhone feels higher quality.
So how do you explain the screen surviving then?Just because the screen cracks doesn't make the iPhone badly put together, it's a much nicer piece of hardware and much better put together IMO.
I'm not saying the SGS2 is bad, merely that I think the iPhone feels higher quality.
h session... 
dorme said:
automated fully through Siri
Been thinking of maybe going from SGS2 to iPhone for a change - how good is the automation? I get that Siri can do some stuff, but other options maybe limited?Currently when I leave the house my phone switches off wifi and sync, and Mon-Fri switches on bluetooth. Coming back to the house bluetooth goes off, wifi and sync on, and it emails the house to unlock the door and switch off the alarm. Is this (easily) possible with an iPhone?
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