Anyone else pre ordered the new AMG GTR?
Discussion
threesixty said:
I can't remember if you've mentioned before, yours must be first uk car?
There's lots of delays with us cars so I'm a bit concerned.
By luck more than judgement I was , so I am told, the ist to order and put down a deposit. I am also told that my car comes in the 1st batch of 4 cars, late May. Subsequently I have been told the 1st June. We will see. Maybe Lewis is L Hamilton, would accept if he gets his before me!There's lots of delays with us cars so I'm a bit concerned.
Otherwise I think the 1st 4 cars, for us ordinary folks arrive in strict chronological order. Please let us know when yours arrives Lewis.
Edited by stoatage17 on Monday 15th May 19:33
stoatage17 said:
By luck more than judgement I was , so I am told, the ist to order and put down a deposit. I am also told that my car comes in the 1st batch of 4 cars, late May. Subsequently I have been told the 1st June. We will see. Maybe Lewis is L Hamilton, would accept if he gets his before me!
Otherwise I think the 1st 4 cars, for us ordinary folks arrive in strict chronological order. Please let us know when yours arrives Lewis.
I am first 4 cars as well (or so I've been told!) My car is due w/c 12th of June. I'm surprised that they're not all together.Otherwise I think the 1st 4 cars, for us ordinary folks arrive in strict chronological order. Please let us know when yours arrives Lewis.
Edited by stoatage17 on Monday 15th May 19:33
I have a trackday at monza on the 28th so I need to get the car PPF'd and run it in before then. Will be tight!
threesixty said:
I am first 4 cars as well (or so I've been told!) My car is due w/c 12th of June. I'm surprised that they're not all together.
I have a trackday at monza on the 28th so I need to get the car PPF'd and run it in before then. Will be tight!
The anticipation is killing me but still have another 6 weeks before mine arrives providing there are no delays (touch wood)I have a trackday at monza on the 28th so I need to get the car PPF'd and run it in before then. Will be tight!
Which PPF are you going for? Does the colour choice have an impact on which film is preferred?
I'm hoping to do my 30mins @ Brooklands this week also!mhh said:
CitySlicker said:
Is anyone here protecting their car with PPF? I am considering doing the whole car.
I'm getting Green Hell Magno so a full PPF wrap is essential imo.
TX.
Dan de HellenBaque said:
Driving one on track tomorrow!
Driving the AMG GTR on track, Wednesday 16th May 2017…Getting drenched whilst walking to the car, not a great start. Torrential rain, standing water on track…
Yet, still oh so happy! That was the feeling as the back end stepped out, coming out of a right hander in 2nd, through into 3rd wheels aligning, onto the straight, floored it with a reckless abandon, into 4th, very little stability control intervention. Such traction in these conditions shouldn’t be possible, riding on a seemingly bottomless pit of ever increasing power and torque, over too soon (straight too short), hard on the brakes, very hard, harder, back end squirms a little as front end bites, so hard the rain drops from my face collect and fly horizontally off the tip of my nose, and BANG, BANG and another BANG and, turn in, trail brake, slight over steer into the apex, then feed the power in and bring on the visceral primal roar! Then too much, cos it feels good and because you can, because it feels so beautifully balanced and controllable.
Corners so flat, the front end bites even in the wet, yes coming in too fast it will push wide, but tickle the throttle and the back end will come round in an instant and find neutrality, before your heart gets back to where it came from!
Played with the yellow knob! Great fun, and found that ¾ off was perfect for sliding around in the wet!
Again, bearing in mind this was in the wet; almost imperceptible roll, pitch and yaw. The steering for me was perfectly weighted i.e. a little heavier than the F12 (which is very light) but about as quick, which I like as it makes it easier to catch the breakaway before it actually gets away!
The way the GTR changes direction makes it feel lighter than it really is, maybe that is down to the rear wheel steer, I wouldn’t know as it’s the first time I’ve driven a car with RWS. I would even say that it feels lighter than the F12, even though they are almost identical Kerb Weights at 1630kg (wet & laden)
Even taking into account that I was not able to push it to its limits due to the conditions and the size of the track, the engine feels as though it could easily deliver so much more power and torque. Not that it feels lacking in any way, quite the opposite in fact, even coming from what I am used to in the F12 with 730HP. It does not feel under any stress whatsoever. Lot more to come then…. Black Series? here’s hoping!
I realise they are at completely different price points, with the F12 being virtually double that of the AMG GTR, however front engine, rear drive, one can’t help but compare. I am pleased to say that they are very different machines indeed, more in terms of how they feel and how they make you feel. I have driven the F12 at Donington, it performed superbly without missing a beat, immense power, amazing sound, but I didn’t feel that it was enjoying it as much as I was, whereas the GTR makes you feel like it really enjoys it, and ask for more.
Both sound fantastic, but the F12 wins in that department, as it should. However, without doubt, the AMG GTR is the best sounding turbocharged car being manufactured today, both from in the cabin and from outside. McLaren take note, there can be no excuses now!
So, F12 in your Zegna moccasins with a ‘special friend’ driving down to the Four Seasons (other luxury hotels also available) in Florence or to any elegant event anywhere, in the sunshine! AMG GTR in your racing boots for any weather Sunday morning blasts, on tour, on track, on your own or with your mates!
Very difficult to talk more about ‘driving feel’ and ‘dynamics’ due to the conditions, I am very much looking forward to finding out what it is like on dry and warm tarmac!
Good points; do you need any more!
Bad points; 7 more weeks to wait!
Dan de HellenBaque said:
Dan de HellenBaque said:
Driving one on track tomorrow!
Driving the AMG GTR on track, Wednesday 16th May 2017…Getting drenched whilst walking to the car, not a great start. Torrential rain, standing water on track…
Yet, still oh so happy! That was the feeling as the back end stepped out, coming out of a right hander in 2nd, through into 3rd wheels aligning, onto the straight, floored it with a reckless abandon, into 4th, very little stability control intervention. Such traction in these conditions shouldn’t be possible, riding on a seemingly bottomless pit of ever increasing power and torque, over too soon (straight too short), hard on the brakes, very hard, harder, back end squirms a little as front end bites, so hard the rain drops from my face collect and fly horizontally off the tip of my nose, and BANG, BANG and another BANG and, turn in, trail brake, slight over steer into the apex, then feed the power in and bring on the visceral primal roar! Then too much, cos it feels good and because you can, because it feels so beautifully balanced and controllable.
Corners so flat, the front end bites even in the wet, yes coming in too fast it will push wide, but tickle the throttle and the back end will come round in an instant and find neutrality, before your heart gets back to where it came from!
Played with the yellow knob! Great fun, and found that ¾ off was perfect for sliding around in the wet!
Again, bearing in mind this was in the wet; almost imperceptible roll, pitch and yaw. The steering for me was perfectly weighted i.e. a little heavier than the F12 (which is very light) but about as quick, which I like as it makes it easier to catch the breakaway before it actually gets away!
The way the GTR changes direction makes it feel lighter than it really is, maybe that is down to the rear wheel steer, I wouldn’t know as it’s the first time I’ve driven a car with RWS. I would even say that it feels lighter than the F12, even though they are almost identical Kerb Weights at 1630kg (wet & laden)
Even taking into account that I was not able to push it to its limits due to the conditions and the size of the track, the engine feels as though it could easily deliver so much more power and torque. Not that it feels lacking in any way, quite the opposite in fact, even coming from what I am used to in the F12 with 730HP. It does not feel under any stress whatsoever. Lot more to come then…. Black Series? here’s hoping!
I realise they are at completely different price points, with the F12 being virtually double that of the AMG GTR, however front engine, rear drive, one can’t help but compare. I am pleased to say that they are very different machines indeed, more in terms of how they feel and how they make you feel. I have driven the F12 at Donington, it performed superbly without missing a beat, immense power, amazing sound, but I didn’t feel that it was enjoying it as much as I was, whereas the GTR makes you feel like it really enjoys it, and ask for more.
Both sound fantastic, but the F12 wins in that department, as it should. However, without doubt, the AMG GTR is the best sounding turbocharged car being manufactured today, both from in the cabin and from outside. McLaren take note, there can be no excuses now!
So, F12 in your Zegna moccasins with a ‘special friend’ driving down to the Four Seasons (other luxury hotels also available) in Florence or to any elegant event anywhere, in the sunshine! AMG GTR in your racing boots for any weather Sunday morning blasts, on tour, on track, on your own or with your mates!
Very difficult to talk more about ‘driving feel’ and ‘dynamics’ due to the conditions, I am very much looking forward to finding out what it is like on dry and warm tarmac!
Good points; do you need any more!
Bad points; 7 more weeks to wait!
mhh said:
Brilliant review Dan! I particularly liked the comparison comments re F12. I've got an 812 on a tentative order and wondered if the AMG was different enough that the two cars can live in the same garage. It seems like they can.
Thank you, very ,much appreciated. That was my first review of any car! I have an 812 on order too. I can honestly say, yes the AMG GTR and F12 can definitely co-exist quite happily, as long as they are specified in a way to be able to coexist. My F12 is Blu Scozia with crema, comfort heated seats, loads of carbon, extended leather (entire boot, headlining, seats, parcel shelf, everything), together with other creature comforts. I specified my GTR with bucket seats, which should tell you what I wanted from the car. I will most probably spec my 812 in a similar way to my F12, for the Grand Tour. I only put a deposit on the 812 at the Geneva show, so will have to wait until 2020, maybe even until 2021, I have been told I will probably get one of the last ones, which is fine by me, benefitting from the upgrades! When did you get your order in for the 812?
From my very limited experience with the AMG GTR, when they (GTR & F12) are side by side in my garage, the GTR is the car I would choose for a 'blast' and pure driving thrills and enjoyment, and the F12 for an 'event' with the Minister of Interior Affairs. I hope that makes sense! Not sure about the 812 though, what with the drivetrain mods, power increase, rear wheel steer and increased aero, but then again, £320k vs £170k, well, enough said!
I ran the first road registered Radical RXC 500 Coupe in the UK for nearly 2 years, quicker than the McLaren P1, 918 and La Ferrari on any track, it set the fastest Nurburgring lap earlier this year, but that was on a public day, so couldn't be published. I sold it this year under serious pressure. You can see it on instagram or twitter on @exhilar8ing and youtube on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7UoztlvWUg&t=... I earned my Race License with it. I am not allowed to tell you who I sold it to, suffice to say it is right now being used as a development mule for a spectacular hyper car, which I am also helping with. The AMG GTR is to replace that car, not my F12. I also have a McLaren 720S on order for delivery in September, and I am more concerned about that not being able to coexist with the 812 than the GTR, ...we shall see!
Even though my family would say that I have sacrificed so much, continue to commit to, and work relentlessly to achieve, I am so grateful, and so lucky to have such problems!
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houlbt said:
So.... you were saying...
Haha yes! Makes me look a bit silly doesn't it hence my post further up about feeling annoyed.All my info came from the lady at head office referenced elsewhere in this thread(either first or second hand).
I've absolutely no idea where this grey car(or any other car that arrives this month) has come from, I know there are a few demo cars coming to the uk perhaps they're just going straight to customers.
threesixty said:
Haha yes! Makes me look a bit silly doesn't it hence my post further up about feeling annoyed.
All my info came from the lady at head office referenced elsewhere in this thread(either first or second hand).
I've absolutely no idea where this grey car(or any other car that arrives this month) has come from, I know there are a few demo cars coming to the uk perhaps they're just going straight to customers.
I just want mine now... I'm pretty sure it's physically built now from the conversations I've had.All my info came from the lady at head office referenced elsewhere in this thread(either first or second hand).
I've absolutely no idea where this grey car(or any other car that arrives this month) has come from, I know there are a few demo cars coming to the uk perhaps they're just going straight to customers.
Dan de HellenBaque said:
Driving the AMG GTR on track, Wednesday 16th May 2017…
Getting drenched whilst walking to the car, not a great start. Torrential rain, standing water on track…
Yet, still oh so happy! That was the feeling as the back end stepped out, coming out of a right hander in 2nd, through into 3rd wheels aligning, onto the straight, floored it with a reckless abandon, into 4th, very little stability control intervention. Such traction in these conditions shouldn’t be possible, riding on a seemingly bottomless pit of ever increasing power and torque, over too soon (straight too short), hard on the brakes, very hard, harder, back end squirms a little as front end bites, so hard the rain drops from my face collect and fly horizontally off the tip of my nose, and BANG, BANG and another BANG and, turn in, trail brake, slight over steer into the apex, then feed the power in and bring on the visceral primal roar! Then too much, cos it feels good and because you can, because it feels so beautifully balanced and controllable.
Corners so flat, the front end bites even in the wet, yes coming in too fast it will push wide, but tickle the throttle and the back end will come round in an instant and find neutrality, before your heart gets back to where it came from!
Played with the yellow knob! Great fun, and found that ¾ off was perfect for sliding around in the wet!
Again, bearing in mind this was in the wet; almost imperceptible roll, pitch and yaw. The steering for me was perfectly weighted i.e. a little heavier than the F12 (which is very light) but about as quick, which I like as it makes it easier to catch the breakaway before it actually gets away!
The way the GTR changes direction makes it feel lighter than it really is, maybe that is down to the rear wheel steer, I wouldn’t know as it’s the first time I’ve driven a car with RWS. I would even say that it feels lighter than the F12, even though they are almost identical Kerb Weights at 1630kg (wet & laden)
Even taking into account that I was not able to push it to its limits due to the conditions and the size of the track, the engine feels as though it could easily deliver so much more power and torque. Not that it feels lacking in any way, quite the opposite in fact, even coming from what I am used to in the F12 with 730HP. It does not feel under any stress whatsoever. Lot more to come then…. Black Series? here’s hoping!
I realise they are at completely different price points, with the F12 being virtually double that of the AMG GTR, however front engine, rear drive, one can’t help but compare. I am pleased to say that they are very different machines indeed, more in terms of how they feel and how they make you feel. I have driven the F12 at Donington, it performed superbly without missing a beat, immense power, amazing sound, but I didn’t feel that it was enjoying it as much as I was, whereas the GTR makes you feel like it really enjoys it, and ask for more.
Both sound fantastic, but the F12 wins in that department, as it should. However, without doubt, the AMG GTR is the best sounding turbocharged car being manufactured today, both from in the cabin and from outside. McLaren take note, there can be no excuses now!
So, F12 in your Zegna moccasins with a ‘special friend’ driving down to the Four Seasons (other luxury hotels also available) in Florence or to any elegant event anywhere, in the sunshine! AMG GTR in your racing boots for any weather Sunday morning blasts, on tour, on track, on your own or with your mates!
Very difficult to talk more about ‘driving feel’ and ‘dynamics’ due to the conditions, I am very much looking forward to finding out what it is like on dry and warm tarmac!
Good points; do you need any more!
Bad points; 7 more weeks to wait!
Great write up! I also had the pleasure of driving the GT R for 30 mins at Brooklands today in the dry and I was blown away with the experience. What was immediately noticeable was how playful yet safe it was on/near the limit, immense turn in grip and if you're too hot on the entry the front tyres told you before losing your line and washing off corner speed, back off the loud peddle by a few mm and the front bites assertively, hit the apex and accelerate progressively allowing the back to squirm on exit.Getting drenched whilst walking to the car, not a great start. Torrential rain, standing water on track…
Yet, still oh so happy! That was the feeling as the back end stepped out, coming out of a right hander in 2nd, through into 3rd wheels aligning, onto the straight, floored it with a reckless abandon, into 4th, very little stability control intervention. Such traction in these conditions shouldn’t be possible, riding on a seemingly bottomless pit of ever increasing power and torque, over too soon (straight too short), hard on the brakes, very hard, harder, back end squirms a little as front end bites, so hard the rain drops from my face collect and fly horizontally off the tip of my nose, and BANG, BANG and another BANG and, turn in, trail brake, slight over steer into the apex, then feed the power in and bring on the visceral primal roar! Then too much, cos it feels good and because you can, because it feels so beautifully balanced and controllable.
Corners so flat, the front end bites even in the wet, yes coming in too fast it will push wide, but tickle the throttle and the back end will come round in an instant and find neutrality, before your heart gets back to where it came from!
Played with the yellow knob! Great fun, and found that ¾ off was perfect for sliding around in the wet!
Again, bearing in mind this was in the wet; almost imperceptible roll, pitch and yaw. The steering for me was perfectly weighted i.e. a little heavier than the F12 (which is very light) but about as quick, which I like as it makes it easier to catch the breakaway before it actually gets away!
The way the GTR changes direction makes it feel lighter than it really is, maybe that is down to the rear wheel steer, I wouldn’t know as it’s the first time I’ve driven a car with RWS. I would even say that it feels lighter than the F12, even though they are almost identical Kerb Weights at 1630kg (wet & laden)
Even taking into account that I was not able to push it to its limits due to the conditions and the size of the track, the engine feels as though it could easily deliver so much more power and torque. Not that it feels lacking in any way, quite the opposite in fact, even coming from what I am used to in the F12 with 730HP. It does not feel under any stress whatsoever. Lot more to come then…. Black Series? here’s hoping!
I realise they are at completely different price points, with the F12 being virtually double that of the AMG GTR, however front engine, rear drive, one can’t help but compare. I am pleased to say that they are very different machines indeed, more in terms of how they feel and how they make you feel. I have driven the F12 at Donington, it performed superbly without missing a beat, immense power, amazing sound, but I didn’t feel that it was enjoying it as much as I was, whereas the GTR makes you feel like it really enjoys it, and ask for more.
Both sound fantastic, but the F12 wins in that department, as it should. However, without doubt, the AMG GTR is the best sounding turbocharged car being manufactured today, both from in the cabin and from outside. McLaren take note, there can be no excuses now!
So, F12 in your Zegna moccasins with a ‘special friend’ driving down to the Four Seasons (other luxury hotels also available) in Florence or to any elegant event anywhere, in the sunshine! AMG GTR in your racing boots for any weather Sunday morning blasts, on tour, on track, on your own or with your mates!
Very difficult to talk more about ‘driving feel’ and ‘dynamics’ due to the conditions, I am very much looking forward to finding out what it is like on dry and warm tarmac!
Good points; do you need any more!
Bad points; 7 more weeks to wait!
Out of the 2nd gear right hander it is pretty much (didn't quite have the nerve) full throttle all the way down to the straight slipping it into 5th gear briefly before braking. Crackle, pop as you downshift with authority and prepare for the next bend; a very nice touch from AMG here is that the bangs are never the same removing the sense that it is artificially programmed to do so. It feels raw and exciting, a bit of a hooligan when compared to the SLS and other AMGs and the most capable on track by a country mile.
The meatier steering, a quicker rack and communicative chasis gives you confidence to explore the limits from the moment you jump in the car, it feels natural and enables the driver to learn how to improve on the next lap. The gearbox is one of the most noticeable improvements from its predecessors, I drove it in manual mode the entire time and it delivers gears on command without hesitation on the way up and down. Like you Dan, I am looking forward to driving it on a full size circuit for a whole day where it will undoubtedly reveal more of its characteristics.
Ultimately a very positive introduction to the car, it has exceeded my expectations. Well done AMG and thanks to Brooklands!
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