The Mighty SEC. Pictures, Ownership Stories and Tips.

[MarshPhantom]

Very nice car OP.

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Lowtimer said:

But 50 is so obviously an arbitrary number pulled out of thin air, and such a transparent attempt to re-set the whole market.

He's taking the piss. But he's appreciating my asset, and that can only be a good thing!

[swindler]

At £50k it's clearly the top of the market, but

i. one can always bid
ii. it's not much more than this achieved a couple of years ago:


https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/mercedes-560-s...

[CharlesdeGaulle]

You'd do better bidding for this, with a rather low estimate.

0a said:

I wonder what this 560 will go for https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/mercedes-560-se...

[Lowtimer]

With that one much depends how how well the recent structural corrosion ("offside rear suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded In corner of inner wheel arch") was repaired in the short time between the MOT fail and the subsequent MOT pass. Hopefully it wasn;t just a glop of underseal and a change of MOT station. At the right price it makes a tempting restoration project.

Edited by Lowtimer on Sunday 8th January 16:23

[erics]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

It's a bargain!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...

I have got the same car with 43,000km from new in lhd. Smoke silver, black interior, one owner from new before me. Euro car (not japanese or US). Full 300ps decat version. I certainly would not let it go for less than £50k.

[Lowtimer]

Quite possibly. Similarly, the amount of money it would take to persuade me to sell any of my cars is pretty high.

But neither you nor I want to sell our cars, and on the face of it we have to assume the bloke in the advert does.

[erics]

Lowtimer said:

Quite possibly. Similarly, the amount of money it would take to persuade me to sell any of my cars is pretty high.

But neither you nor I want to sell our cars, and on the face of it we have to assume the bloke in the advert does.

Just look at what Germans pay for top quality w126, r107, w124 500e... the 560sec is a very, very special car and there are extremely few left in their original conditions.

Every formula 1 driver of the era had one which tells you something.

An intergalagtic mileage porsche 964 commands £50k, a crappy pagoda (trust me i have seen dozens) often advertised for £100k, an average 993 c2s approaches £100k etc....

I think a super mint low miles 560sec is actually a lot of car for £50k. I often drove mine back to back with a bentley conti gt and the merc whilst 20 years older is more refined, better built, better finished and more comfortable.

I am talking with a degree experience since i owned all the above cars. A good sec is at least as good as any of them if not better. Germans figured it out already, the uk will eventually come to it..

Edited by erics on Monday 9th January 23:11

Edited by erics on Tuesday 10th January 07:51

Edited by erics on Wednesday 11th January 11:58

[sim16v]

A barn find belonging to one of my mates with something interesting under the bonnet...

[jet_noise]

sim16v said:

A barn find belonging to one of my mates with something interesting under the bonnet...

Tell us more!
Is that forced induction perchance?

[bmthnick1981]

Looks like a turbo V8, cant tell if 500 or 560 tho. More details please? What is the turbo set up? Koenig? Turbo Technics? Bespoke ?

[Hugo a Gogo]

cornershop said:

So i'm told the rear screen is NLA from MB, by 2 different sources, Edward Hall and MercedesMark

Bit of time this afternoon researching, suggests Pilkington offer a replacement rear screen, circa 280 Euros, plus shipping (quoted via a german parts reseller https://www.originparts.de/?lang=1 )

"Pilkington have stock of this windscreen for MERCEDES 280-500 SEC W126 CPE 10/81-02/92; GREEN HEATED; OE PART NR.: A1266701680.
Item price will be 285,50 Euro ex works. Delivery time to us is approx. 5-7 working days."

Have emailed Pilkington UK to confirm - somewhat mad at myself for passing on a minty genuine used item earlier this year thinking they were still available from MB.


ETA - these guys also do one, but don't deliver outside of Austria

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heckscheibe-MERCEDES-W-1...

Edited by cornershop on Monday 5th December 23:08

did you get a reply?

I know a guy at Pilks if you didn't

[cornershop]

Hugo a Gogo said:

cornershop said:

So i'm told the rear screen is NLA from MB, by 2 different sources, Edward Hall and MercedesMark

Bit of time this afternoon researching, suggests Pilkington offer a replacement rear screen, circa 280 Euros, plus shipping (quoted via a german parts reseller https://www.originparts.de/?lang=1 )

"Pilkington have stock of this windscreen for MERCEDES 280-500 SEC W126 CPE 10/81-02/92; GREEN HEATED; OE PART NR.: A1266701680.
Item price will be 285,50 Euro ex works. Delivery time to us is approx. 5-7 working days."

Have emailed Pilkington UK to confirm - somewhat mad at myself for passing on a minty genuine used item earlier this year thinking they were still available from MB.


ETA - these guys also do one, but don't deliver outside of Austria

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heckscheibe-MERCEDES-W-1...

Edited by cornershop on Monday 5th December 23:08

did you get a reply?

I know a guy at Pilks if you didn't

Thanks for asking - i eventually ordered via originparts.de, and the screen arrived with Edward Hall yesterday. Delivery was ~100Euro, which is fine at it arrived fully intact. Still don't understand why Pilkington EU can offer the screen, but the UK division can't - low demand i imagine.

Will be taking the car up to Edward next week for new screen, seal and tidy up of the interior above the rear screen.

In the meantime, have been busy cleaning out all 4 wheel arches with Surfex HD and coating liberally with Dynax UC wax. Will hopefully keep any rust potential at bay, especially around the leading edge of the front wings which have a ready and willing rust trap just waiting to cause mischief.

I bought myself a LS400 last week so will look to keep the SEC off the mean streets of north London over the winter.

[Lowtimer]

erics said:

I have got the same car with 43,000km from new in lhd. Smoke silver, black interior, one owner from new before me. Euro car (not japanese or US). Full 300ps decat version. I certainly would not let it go for less than £50k.

The one in the advert is now down to £39,995 I note. When it comes down another £5K I'll go to see it.

[erics]

Lowtimer said:

The one in the advert is now down to £39,995 I note. When it comes down another £5K I'll go to see it.

I saw that today. I think it's a good deal for what it is. If i did not have mine (which is nearly identical), i would be there in a flash.

2 things i don't like on this car though: the non flush wheel bolts and the after market head-unit which looks awful. Becker or nothing in that car!

[MarshPhantom]

My CE is Smoke Silver, how do you find out what paint they used on the lower panels?

[Lowtimer]

Should be Mussel Grey 7176

[MarshPhantom]

Thanks Lowtimer, nice one.

[Lowtimer]

No worries. Bet it looks nice, it's a good combo on a 124.
Sometimes MB paints are referred to as three-digit codes, in which case it's the last three digits, so if 7176 gets you a blank look at some point try referring to it as Mussel Grey 176 instead.

[MarshPhantom]

I shall post some pics when the weather perks up a bit.