W204 C63 price

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Xpk123

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22 posts

47 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Have been keeping an eye on (w204) c63 prices this past year.

I believe they have hit the depreciation wall, and are now on the rise again, would I be correct ?

It’s hard too tell as most performance cars have climbed in price in the past 12 months. Sti’s, m3s, even type r’s are all dearer now, compared to this time last year.

Really thinking about pulling the trigger on a c63 at a dealer local to me.

sanguinary

1,346 posts

211 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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I don’t think the good ones will get much cheaper now. I bought last year and don’t appear to have lost anything on it, although difficult to compare sometimes.

If the car is right for you, I’d pull the trigger now, as cars like the C63 are on borrowed time and good ones will become increasingly harder to find as time goes on anyway.

It took me two years to find the spec I wanted, so when I found the car it was a no brainier for me.

belleair302

6,843 posts

207 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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I think the coupes have some way to go but bad ones are vanishing slowly . Four door saloons are about but not numerous and the wagons are being locked away slowly and kept as these seem to be the best balanced. A good one with bills and history will go up in 2022 and 2023 as fewer are sold and they become more classics and approach a decade out of production.

GTRene

16,551 posts

224 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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here in NL and Germany some were also on the rise... for say AMG GTR about 10k euro in the begin of 2021, but I guess they will go lower the next few months.
So yes it was a bit of a disapointment the start of 2021, just when I thought this could be a better year for the c63s and the amg GT(s)(R) luckely its just the beginning ;-)

to be honest, they went maybe a bit to hard downwards and now they cats up a bit, or some do it in the beginning of the year, so they can again lower the price in 2021, if you did not looked at those the last year, maybe some won't notice?

anyway, I hope they go down again, especially the amg gtr, but they are only a few years old, but still they will go a lot is still in the to depreciate before they go up again in a few years...but which year will be the best (lowest point) to buy such car or such C63s hah.

anyhow, great cars for the money second hand if you see what you get, a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde car.



Edited by GTRene on Sunday 21st February 00:34

Xpk123

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22 posts

47 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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Thanks for the reply’s folks.

They were definitely slightly cheaper 12 months ago, I remember seeing categorised examples on for 11-12k, now they are 14k+

They all seem to have high owners for the miles, most 70k examples have between 6-10 owners. Not that it would bother me as long as it would have plenty of history with it.

I reckon they will be a car to keep for the future. Surely they will only become more sought after with age, especially the lower mileage examples.

sanguinary

1,346 posts

211 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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The high number of owners on a car like this would put me off. Easy to buy, but when faced with a high bill the potential cost of ownership is realised and the car is punted on. It’s a sign to me the car’s run on a shoestring.


samoht

5,715 posts

146 months

Monday 22nd February 2021
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Xpk123 said:
I believe they have hit the depreciation wall, and are now on the rise again, would I be correct ?
My general expectation for performance cars is the value changes in three phases: (a) depreciation, (b) holding steady (c) rising values.

Phase (b) is when the declining value brings them in reach of a pool of desirous buyers who couldn't previously afford them, this pool snaps up cars as they come into a certain price band, supporting prices at around that level.

Phase (c) is when declining numbers of cars on the road leads to demand exceeding supply, combined with a fanbase becoming older and richer and being able to afford to pay more.


I can easily imagine the W204 C63 has now moved from (a) to (b), however I'd expect values to stay fairly steady for a few years before starting to rise, especially as they're a pretty common model.

If you want to enjoy driving these cars while there are still plenty around in good condition and parts are easy, then now's probably a good time to buy. However I wouldn't expect it to be an 'investment' that you can flip for a significant profit in three years' time, say.

Chestrockwell

2,628 posts

157 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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I’ve been looking at M4’s and my heart is set on the a M4 for about 30k however.....


I have a C300d at the moment which I think is ste and is nothing like how I think a Benz should be. My cousins husband has a 2011 W204 C220 CDI and I had to park it properly for her so I got in it, parked it and during that time, I felt like I was in a solid car, it really did feel like a proper Merc and even smelt like one too (my dad had a few 124’s and 126’s years ago) and I thought to myself, why not have a look at C63’s. I did and I found them to be around 20k, between 20 and 24. W204 models that is.

They are around 22-25 for decent ones and while they do massively appeal to me, I’m more concerned on the reliability and warranty aspect as I’m very risk averse. This actually was my initial concern until I watched a few YouTube videos on C63 ownership and saw how bad the fuel consumption is.

Before I found this thread, I saw a W205 C63 ownership thread and a lot of people were saying third party warranties aren’t worth the paper they’re written on (this is what I was relying on for my potential M4 purchase and W204 C64 purchase).

So here I am, wondering why I aren’t rich and why being a petrol head is a curse.

While I can afford both both cars and potential bills, I also like to live, I.e holidays, clothes, dinners and nights out SO, shall I just buy an M140i for 20k with a BMW warranty or is W204 C63 ownership not that bad


cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Last week a friend purchased an immaculate 2013 W204 C63 estate with full history and 37000 miles for £22,500.

I think he did well and, given that it's one of last NA V8's, likely to rise in price.

Terzo123

4,312 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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W204 C63's are fairly reliable. If you buy an approved used example you should get a 2 year warranty, although you will pay top dollar for one.

You can also buy a service plan if you intend to keep up the dealer history, for a reasonable monthly fee, or save fortunes and use an independent specialist.

For additional peace of mind purchase a 3rd party Gap policy.

As for the fuel consumption, after a month or so you will forget all about it. Whilst it's not great, it's not that much worse than many other performance cars.


Xpk123

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22 posts

47 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Chestrockwell said:
I’ve been looking at M4’s and my heart is set on the a M4 for about 30k however.....


I have a C300d at the moment which I think is ste and is nothing like how I think a Benz should be. My cousins husband has a 2011 W204 C220 CDI and I had to park it properly for her so I got in it, parked it and during that time, I felt like I was in a solid car, it really did feel like a proper Merc and even smelt like one too (my dad had a few 124’s and 126’s years ago) and I thought to myself, why not have a look at C63’s. I did and I found them to be around 20k, between 20 and 24. W204 models that is.

They are around 22-25 for decent ones and while they do massively appeal to me, I’m more concerned on the reliability and warranty aspect as I’m very risk averse. This actually was my initial concern until I watched a few YouTube videos on C63 ownership and saw how bad the fuel consumption is.

Before I found this thread, I saw a W205 C63 ownership thread and a lot of people were saying third party warranties aren’t worth the paper they’re written on (this is what I was relying on for my potential M4 purchase and W204 C64 purchase).

So here I am, wondering why I aren’t rich and why being a petrol head is a curse.

While I can afford both both cars and potential bills, I also like to live, I.e holidays, clothes, dinners and nights out SO, shall I just buy an M140i for 20k with a BMW warranty or is W204 C63 ownership not that bad
Go for it. You’ve only got one life make the most of it. I’ve done a fair bit of reading up on forums etc about the c63 and to be honest there doesn’t seem to be anything major to go wrong, except the documented head bolt problems but they seem to be nearly all USA cars for some reason. Not many in U.K. have had bother with head bolts seemingly.

Even some U.K. dealers are doing heavily discounted parts now for the c63.

I’ll be defo be going for the right one when it comes up whether it be two weeks or two months, but I don’t mind waiting as I’m not going to buy the first one I see. I’m looking a car with tops around 70k and must have the Performance pack or at-least the lsd.

As for fuel/mpg, you shouldn’t really be thinking of any kind of performance cars if your worried about mpg especially not a 450 bhp v8 lol

Terzo123

4,312 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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I wouldn't get too hung up on waiting for a car with an LSD.

I have one without an LSD and it's fine enough.

Xpk123

Original Poster:

22 posts

47 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Terzo123 said:
I wouldn't get too hung up on waiting for a car with an LSD.

I have one without an LSD and it's fine enough.
I have no doubt in my mind they are fine without the lsd, but at the same time if I’m spending around 20k on a performance car I would rather have the lsd specced but that’s just my personal choice. I know if I bought one without an lsd I would only end up getting one fitted in the future so might aswell do it right from the start.

Have you drove a c63 with an lsd?

DasChin

609 posts

216 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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drove one with and one without.

very very little difference on the road and how you would use. I mean splitting hairs

and its the wrong type of car to be on track where you get the benefit. too big n heavy

you can always add the diff later like the Quaiffe one which folks do if you must have it.

will an LSD help with re sale . maybe? but one added may mean its had a hard life.

Xpk123

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22 posts

47 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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DasChin said:
drove one with and one without.

very very little difference on the road and how you would use. I mean splitting hairs

and its the wrong type of car to be on track where you get the benefit. too big n heavy

you can always add the diff later like the Quaiffe one which folks do if you must have it.

will an LSD help with re sale . maybe? but one added may mean its had a hard life.
Only reason I ask is that I have had a fair number off rear wheel drive cars over the years, drove cars with standard diffs, limited slip and welded diffs.

Standard diffs in a rear wheel drive always annoyed me for the fact that if it was wet and if nobody’s looking and you tried to slip the rear out for a giggle you never really had any control, they kind of have a mind of their own.

I have read that the c63 doesn’t really feel like that due to technology/computer killing power to certain wheels etc to combat this but I still feel that a 450hp+ rear wheel drive car should have came equipped with an lsd from factory!

Edit - even the rear wheel drive cars I have had over the years, you wouldn’t notice any difference from standard/lsd until you tried to go sideways, unless you had a welded diff then you knew the second you turned the steering wheel lol!

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GTRene

16,551 posts

224 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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DasChin said:
drove one with and one without.

very very little difference on the road and how you would use. I mean splitting hairs

and its the wrong type of car to be on track where you get the benefit. too big n heavy

you can always add the diff later like the Quaiffe one which folks do if you must have it.

will an LSD help with re sale . maybe? but one added may mean its had a hard life.
A lot say, wavetrac is a better way then Quaife , wavetrac also gives some power to the wheel with grip even if one wheel is in the air, and has also some advantage when slowing down? I forgot precisely, but when you buy a torsen diff, you better go for the wavetrac so it seems, works more like a LSD but does not have the disadvantage of a plate/clutch diff (worn)

PDP76

2,571 posts

150 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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They are holding steady for good ones.
I’ve been keeping an eye them and tyre kicking for a coupe C204 with around 40k or less on it.

Seems the bigger engines are sought after these days.
Currently I’m in (12) C204 350 V6 petrol. Thirsty definitely when pushed like the 63 but mildly better on fuel.Only has 44k on it and I’ve lost barely anything on it depreciation wise since I bought it 18 months ago.

Not seeing many 63’s on the road lately either.

Pumatwin

38 posts

193 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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cheddar said:
Last week a friend purchased an immaculate 2013 W204 C63 estate with full history and 37000 miles for £22,500.

I think he did well and, given that it's one of last NA V8's, likely to rise in price.
That is a good price, was that private or trade?

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Pumatwin said:
cheddar said:
Last week a friend purchased an immaculate 2013 W204 C63 estate with full history and 37000 miles for £22,500.

I think he did well and, given that it's one of last NA V8's, likely to rise in price.
That is a good price, was that private or trade?
Private and, apparently, a remoursful seller when he realised he'd priced it too low.


Arun_D

2,302 posts

195 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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A very similar price to what I paid for my estate 5 months ago with the same mileage.

To the OP, I agree with the previous poster's sentiments regarding factory fit LSD. You could be waiting a very very long time indeed if you over-constrain yourself with certain options, diff included in my opinion. In my buying experience, 'must haves', became 'nice to haves', became just finding the 'best' car in budget in terms of condition history and with an agreeable colour combination, else I'd have ended up never purchasing anything.