AMG GT-R current values...

[GTRene]

tomvcarter said:

The GTR looks so good in black.

I thought/think so to, I was thinking, which I would like more, so I made this picture and found that I would like the GTR more.

Sadly the prices of a GTR are going up instead of down...
even when they are still young, in 2019 I thought hey, good early ones were in Germany by the end of 2019 from 115-119k euro (or higher), so I thought, I wait till 2020 then about another 15k comes' of and the Dutch BPM/Co2 tax is then also a little bit lower.

But then 2020 came and the GTR were not 15k less but at least 15k more and and 2021 also a bit higher and 2022 still the same, so instead of say the 'cheap' est accident free I saw for 115kand the 100k, became 130k and in 2022 around 140k, so when thinking about that 100k became 140k for the same car but 2 year older makes 40k difference in a negative way (when you would like to buy)

so, thats of my chest

[RB Will]

tomvcarter said:

How are you getting on with the GTRs?

I'm just about to take the plunge after watching the market for about 6 months the prices seem to be holding firm. 100k to 120k.

Just not sure I can wait much longer.

The only think stopping me now is falling for a Aston Martin Vantage AMR (Manual). It's similar money, sure not as fast, but soooo sexy.

Any thoughts?

Have you driven each?

I was all geared up to get a GTR a couple of months ago but after a decent test drive was actually put off it, which was annoying as I love the looks and idea of it.

[Zippee]

RB Will said:

tomvcarter said:

How are you getting on with the GTRs?

I'm just about to take the plunge after watching the market for about 6 months the prices seem to be holding firm. 100k to 120k.

Just not sure I can wait much longer.

The only think stopping me now is falling for a Aston Martin Vantage AMR (Manual). It's similar money, sure not as fast, but soooo sexy.

Any thoughts?

Have you driven each?

I was all geared up to get a GTR a couple of months ago but after a decent test drive was actually put off it, which was annoying as I love the looks and idea of it.

IMHO the GTC has many of the best bits of the GTR but just that bit softer for the road - of the intention is mainly track then obviously GTR all the way

[RB Will]

Zippee said:

RB Will said:

tomvcarter said:

How are you getting on with the GTRs?

I'm just about to take the plunge after watching the market for about 6 months the prices seem to be holding firm. 100k to 120k.

Just not sure I can wait much longer.

The only think stopping me now is falling for a Aston Martin Vantage AMR (Manual). It's similar money, sure not as fast, but soooo sexy.

Any thoughts?

Have you driven each?

I was all geared up to get a GTR a couple of months ago but after a decent test drive was actually put off it, which was annoying as I love the looks and idea of it.

IMHO the GTC has many of the best bits of the GTR but just that bit softer for the road - of the intention is mainly track then obviously GTR all the way

GTC would solve a couple of the gripes I had with the GTR but then doesn’t have aspects about the GTR I did like so swings and roundabouts I guess. Both share the same major flaw that veered me right off them though

[Zippee]

RB Will said:

Zippee said:

RB Will said:

tomvcarter said:

How are you getting on with the GTRs?

I'm just about to take the plunge after watching the market for about 6 months the prices seem to be holding firm. 100k to 120k.

Just not sure I can wait much longer.

The only think stopping me now is falling for a Aston Martin Vantage AMR (Manual). It's similar money, sure not as fast, but soooo sexy.

Any thoughts?

Have you driven each?

I was all geared up to get a GTR a couple of months ago but after a decent test drive was actually put off it, which was annoying as I love the looks and idea of it.

IMHO the GTC has many of the best bits of the GTR but just that bit softer for the road - of the intention is mainly track then obviously GTR all the way

GTC would solve a couple of the gripes I had with the GTR but then doesn’t have aspects about the GTR I did like so swings and roundabouts I guess. Both share the same major flaw that veered me right off them though

What was that flaw out of interest?

[RB Will]

Zippee said:

RB Will said:

Zippee said:

RB Will said:

tomvcarter said:

How are you getting on with the GTRs?

I'm just about to take the plunge after watching the market for about 6 months the prices seem to be holding firm. 100k to 120k.

Just not sure I can wait much longer.

The only think stopping me now is falling for a Aston Martin Vantage AMR (Manual). It's similar money, sure not as fast, but soooo sexy.

Any thoughts?

Have you driven each?

I was all geared up to get a GTR a couple of months ago but after a decent test drive was actually put off it, which was annoying as I love the looks and idea of it.

IMHO the GTC has many of the best bits of the GTR but just that bit softer for the road - of the intention is mainly track then obviously GTR all the way

GTC would solve a couple of the gripes I had with the GTR but then doesn’t have aspects about the GTR I did like so swings and roundabouts I guess. Both share the same major flaw that veered me right off them though

What was that flaw out of interest?

The engine / drivetrain didn’t feel special enough.
I’ve spent a fair bit of time driving an E63 with the similar architecture and the GTR didn’t sound or feel much different to that.
It isn’t a bad setup by any means but this would have been a big investment for me and it just didn’t feel worth it. Because it didn’t feel special cruising about it meant I’d have to be risking my licence every time I wanted to enjoy it or I just wouldn’t get to enjoy it often.

Other issues I had with it personally were that it is rather large, especially the nose. Not such a problem in itself but the seating position meant there really wasn’t much idea of where the front left was. I’m used to large things or large bonnets, had a snouty Cerbera recently and currently drive a Dodge Ram, and despite being huge and LHD I can place it on the road better than the AMG.
Size of it also made it a bit of a problem on my local fun roads, left hand side mostly in the gutter smacking potholes if a car was coming towards me and a bit tight overtaking.
Then kind of surprising for a car like this (and top gear lied) but it doesn’t have a nose lift, which makes getting onto my drive a bit of a challenge. I watched the salesman inch it on and there was 1-2mm clearance at a crawl, definitely would end up chinning and beaching it at some point.

The GTC would probably deal with the latter of those practicality problems but then it is the looks of the GTR and and track ability that were the big draw to it.


If I were a bit richer I may well have gone for it just to say I’d had one for a bit but I couldn’t talk myself into it

[tomvcarter]

RB Will said:

Zippee said:

RB Will said:

Zippee said:

RB Will said:

tomvcarter said:

How are you getting on with the GTRs?

I'm just about to take the plunge after watching the market for about 6 months the prices seem to be holding firm. 100k to 120k.

Just not sure I can wait much longer.

The only think stopping me now is falling for a Aston Martin Vantage AMR (Manual). It's similar money, sure not as fast, but soooo sexy.

Any thoughts?

Have you driven each?

I was all geared up to get a GTR a couple of months ago but after a decent test drive was actually put off it, which was annoying as I love the looks and idea of it.

IMHO the GTC has many of the best bits of the GTR but just that bit softer for the road - of the intention is mainly track then obviously GTR all the way

GTC would solve a couple of the gripes I had with the GTR but then doesn’t have aspects about the GTR I did like so swings and roundabouts I guess. Both share the same major flaw that veered me right off them though

What was that flaw out of interest?

The engine / drivetrain didn’t feel special enough.
I’ve spent a fair bit of time driving an E63 with the similar architecture and the GTR didn’t sound or feel much different to that.
It isn’t a bad setup by any means but this would have been a big investment for me and it just didn’t feel worth it. Because it didn’t feel special cruising about it meant I’d have to be risking my licence every time I wanted to enjoy it or I just wouldn’t get to enjoy it often.

Other issues I had with it personally were that it is rather large, especially the nose. Not such a problem in itself but the seating position meant there really wasn’t much idea of where the front left was. I’m used to large things or large bonnets, had a snouty Cerbera recently and currently drive a Dodge Ram, and despite being huge and LHD I can place it on the road better than the AMG.
Size of it also made it a bit of a problem on my local fun roads, left hand side mostly in the gutter smacking potholes if a car was coming towards me and a bit tight overtaking.
Then kind of surprising for a car like this (and top gear lied) but it doesn’t have a nose lift, which makes getting onto my drive a bit of a challenge. I watched the salesman inch it on and there was 1-2mm clearance at a crawl, definitely would end up chinning and beaching it at some point.

The GTC would probably deal with the latter of those practicality problems but then it is the looks of the GTR and and track ability that were the big draw to it.


If I were a bit richer I may well have gone for it just to say I’d had one for a bit but I couldn’t talk myself into it

Interesting that you were not wowed by the engine/drivetrain, much of what I have read and watched says it's all about that. "One of "the great engines" etc.

I've not managed to test one yet, but this week I hope.

How hard is the ride?
Is comfort ok on UK country roads?

[RB Will]

It isn’t a bad engine or gearbox by any means, plenty of power etc gearbox is fast.

I think my problem is my experience with the E63. Sound and feel is so similar that if I were blindfolded I’d just think I was in a mapped E63.
If I didn’t have that prior experience the V8 would have been a new exciting experience and feel and noise but it was just so familiar.

As good as the drivetrain is, in my opinion it just doesn’t have much character, though maybe that is the price you pay for a modern, reliable, efficient engine.

Having a manual trans may have helped too just to have a bit more interaction when not on it.

I think the suspension was alright. Id seen reviews saying it was a bit hard. I was on some of the smoother country roads around here but did remark to the salesman that it rode better than expected. More compliant than my i30N in sporty settings.

[GTRene]

RB Will said:

It isn’t a bad engine or gearbox by any means, plenty of power etc gearbox is fast.

I think my problem is my experience with the E63. Sound and feel is so similar that if I were blindfolded I’d just think I was in a mapped E63.
If I didn’t have that prior experience the V8 would have been a new exciting experience and feel and noise but it was just so familiar.

As good as the drivetrain is, in my opinion it just doesn’t have much character, though maybe that is the price you pay for a modern, reliable, efficient engine.

hm, I read it like, when you are pushing it, it shines...
just like why it is so fast on almost all circuits... could mean, to good to drive slowly.

I was also thinking, the prices still very high instead of going down because still not old, they went up...

So then you maybe better could buy a AMG SLS natural engine 575ps not so rare, but very good for investors because of gullwing doors, so prices stay good, but those did not went up like the GTR at least, what I saw.

Edit: Or buy a AMG CLK63 Black-series first, its a bit old tech, but it seems involving also at lower speeds I guess, because its not perfect, like say a TVR?

at least, I think also this way, but then I keep a lot cars in mind (also some lightweights ala Wiesmann MF3 but with tuning or a Donkervoort GTO-RS and sorts) when I've sold my present car.

Edited by GTRene on Tuesday 8th March 22:02

[tomvcarter]

RB Will said:

Having a manual trans may have helped too just to have a bit more interaction when not on it.

This is why the Aston Vantage AMR (Manual) appeals to me. Same engine (less power), smaller, softer with the manual for more interaction.

I guess it's really the stats of the AMG that draw me to it. The ring time is extraordinary.

But would would this extreme performance be worth it over the interaction that the AMR has... Just can't work it out!

[RB Will]

I think unless you are a trackday hero or going for times at the Ring regularly then go for the car that you would enjoy most of the time.

After not going for the GTR I have bought an Ariel Nomad (supercharged) so bit of a U turn but it ticks every box the GTR didnt for me even though on the road or racetrack it is nowhere near as quick. I'm absolutely loving it.

[sunnym3]

I almost bought a gtr a while back, although a great car it just didn't feel special enough for me. Went completely mad and ended up with a Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera LP570😽

[GTRene]

sunnym3 said:

I almost bought a gtr a while back, although a great car it just didn't feel special enough for me. Went completely mad and ended up with a Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera LP570??

Those look also great with that alcantara interior, I also looked at some on the web, sometimes a better price then the AMG GTR
but I guess? the AMG will be more reliable? and or cheaper to maintain? just a guess, could be wrong though.

[rianos]

I had a 2018 GTR that I used as a daily for a year and put about 10,000 miles on. I thought the engine and gearbox were absolutely superb and loved the guttural sound it made even cruising around at low speed/revs.

I thought the tech for such a car was great too with lane change assist, reverse camera, distronic cruise control etc and that the interior was the nicest of any car i’ve seen to date - I had the performance seats with yellow seatbelts and matching yellow trim with the alcantara.

My only issue with it was the ride quality on the crap roads where I live. It was surprisingly good on smooth roads but on anything else was far too harsh and as someone else said-it’s a very wide car and on a narrower road you had to hug the white centre line and when something else was coming you ended up smashing into the drainage dips on the left side of the road.

The GTC wasn’t an option for me as part of the appeal for the R was the way it looked but I loved the engine so much I got a 2018 C63 coupe as a daily.

I’ve looked around at other super cars for a weekend car and still can’t find anything that comes close to the GTR.

[GTRene]

Maybe a R171 or R172 SLK with the 4.0 biturbo engine would be nice, not to wide, not to big and then making the interior more sporty.

and indeed, the 2016-2018 model AMG GTR has a lovely interior, don't need anything more (for me) never owned one, but sad in one to see if its something for me, we have smooth roads here in NL so no problem, also mostly wider roads, so also not a big problem, although the enginehood is a bit longer then I would like, but I guess you get used to it.

but look at such SLK, nicely compact, could use a bruter engine and some changes, maybe some interior items from the AMG GT series.

under 4.10 meter, also such lovely SLS 6.2 with 575 NA hp, would be lovely as well under that bonnet :-) or even those with around the 500hp

[tomvcarter]

sunnym3 said:

I almost bought a gtr a while back, although a great car it just didn't feel special enough for me. Went completely mad and ended up with a Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera LP570??

Oooh, interesting. I'm also being drawn to the Superlegerra LP570, it still looks amazing.

I'm just frightened of buying a moneypit, but I guess it's had it's depreciation so should be a safer bet financially than a GTR.

What spec did you get? And if you don't mind me asking what did you pay...
There are two for sale on here and they have been up for months.

[chrisABP]

chrisABP said:

Thanks for the replies guys - much appreciated.

I decided as much as I love the Magno Green (epic in the flesh) it was just too shouty for me. So Silver was the preference and I've found a car, massive spec - collecting on Friday! Pics to follow

With the thread being resurrected I realised that I hadn't posted up any pics of the GT-R that I bought last September...

Found a stunning low mileage fully spec'd car in Magno Silver with full PPF from new, had all my must-have options plus a load more I would never have considered - must be one of the highest spec cars in the UK. Matt Magno silver, carbon packs 1 & 2, carbon interior & door sills, track pack including harnesses (never fitted), extinguisher and body coloured cage, upgraded high end Burmester stereo, carbon brakes and the much better looking RXC forged alloy wheels. In fact the only thing its really missing is the carbon engine cover which you can't see anyway!

7 months in and I'm still very smitten - love everything about it. Performance is fantastic, the engine and gearbox are both wonderful and its various modes allow you to waft along or feel like you're on a qualifying lap. Yes, the suspension is on the firm side but so far never in the realms of undrivable. The Cup 2 tyres are great once you get some heat into them but awful in very cold weather so it sat in the garage from November to February. Car is universally liked and has such road presence - unlike any previous cars I've owned. Sounds epic and never fails to make me smile. The performance is staggering and the way it accelerates from 80, 90, 100+ is unbelievable, it just keeps pulling.

Values wise I don't think they have shifted much since I bought it, maybe they are even slightly up. The good spec cars sell quickly whilst the lower spec cars with higher miles seem to hang around with some still on the market from when I was looking last September.

My advice if you're considering one is stop thinking about it and go buy one!

I have a first edition V6 Lotus Emira arriving in June - owning the GT-R now, I don't think the Lotus will be staying for long!

[chrisABP]

[tomvcarter]

chrisABP said:

With the thread being resurrected I realised that I hadn't posted up any pics of the GT-R that I bought last September...

Found a stunning low mileage fully spec'd car in Magno Silver with full PPF from new, had all my must-have options plus a load more I would never have considered - must be one of the highest spec cars in the UK. Matt Magno silver, carbon packs 1 & 2, carbon interior & door sills, track pack including harnesses (never fitted), extinguisher and body coloured cage, upgraded high end Burmester stereo, carbon brakes and the much better looking RXC forged alloy wheels. In fact the only thing its really missing is the carbon engine cover which you can't see anyway!

7 months in and I'm still very smitten - love everything about it. Performance is fantastic, the engine and gearbox are both wonderful and its various modes allow you to waft along or feel like you're on a qualifying lap. Yes, the suspension is on the firm side but so far never in the realms of undrivable. The Cup 2 tyres are great once you get some heat into them but awful in very cold weather so it sat in the garage from November to February. Car is universally liked and has such road presence - unlike any previous cars I've owned. Sounds epic and never fails to make me smile. The performance is staggering and the way it accelerates from 80, 90, 100+ is unbelievable, it just keeps pulling.

Values wise I don't think they have shifted much since I bought it, maybe they are even slightly up. The good spec cars sell quickly whilst the lower spec cars with higher miles seem to hang around with some still on the market from when I was looking last September.

My advice if you're considering one is stop thinking about it and go buy one!

I have a first edition V6 Lotus Emira arriving in June - owning the GT-R now, I don't think the Lotus will be staying for long!

This is great, I'mm just about to pull the trigger, I've found one with all the bits I'm after but it's just working out what the correct price is.
Ive seen a few fail to sell, then drop to around 100k and then go fast.

There are a load of higher-spec cars around 120k but these don't seem to be selling.

Do you mind me asking what you paid 7 months ago?

[GTRene]

chrisABP said:

nice one, great combo and yes, they are selling good so it seems, prices are stil up instead of down considering there are just a few years old.
even in the US they sell good, say on bring a trailer, I mostly follow those to see what they get.