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I see there's a Veloce ti being launched - maybe the wrong word as some markets already seem to have the ti as a model - at Geneva. Although I cannot find any UK information, this appears to be a high spec Veloce - no power increase though - with many of the QV carbon trim pieces.
Although I hope to replace my current car with a Giulia at the end of this year my comfortable budget falls between the Veloce and the QV. Whichever it is will be leased and I have a suspicion that adding some nice options will make a Veloce almost the same price as a QV. Tempting as it is to use man-maths to justify the QV, the ti does sound interesting.
Does anyone know if and when we might be getting it?
Although I hope to replace my current car with a Giulia at the end of this year my comfortable budget falls between the Veloce and the QV. Whichever it is will be leased and I have a suspicion that adding some nice options will make a Veloce almost the same price as a QV. Tempting as it is to use man-maths to justify the QV, the ti does sound interesting.
Does anyone know if and when we might be getting it?
velocemitch said:
The better informed amongst us are saying the ti version isn't coming to RHD markets. Although a 350 BHP 24V Hybrid electric turbo jobby is supposed to be coming eventually.
You would have to go some with the options to bring a Veloce up to the price of a QF though.
Thanks for the reply., it’s a pity as it seems to be ideal for what I want to spend. I’ll have to see then, fortunately I’ve got time to see what happens.You would have to go some with the options to bring a Veloce up to the price of a QF though.
The prices quoted (as monthly costs) on the configurator do increase pretty quickly on a 2 year lease (which is all I’m looking at). The main options I’d probably want are power seats, sunroof and leather dash plus some sundries. A hybrid would probably work well as a business car depending on when (if?) it comes to the market.
Soooo ... I've ended up buying a Veloce today.
Amazing deal from Beechdale in Derby, financed at 1.5%. I own my current car outright so it's free'd up a bit of cash for me too which will help with my impending wedding.
Ended up taking one they had in stock as it was really close to the spec I wanted. Still kept it under £40k, pick it up next week.
Brand new Stromboli Grey with the 5 hole alloys, opulent red leather interior and red calipers with tinted rear windows. It's beautiful.
Happy to share the deal over pm if anyone wants more info.
Amazing deal from Beechdale in Derby, financed at 1.5%. I own my current car outright so it's free'd up a bit of cash for me too which will help with my impending wedding.
Ended up taking one they had in stock as it was really close to the spec I wanted. Still kept it under £40k, pick it up next week.
Brand new Stromboli Grey with the 5 hole alloys, opulent red leather interior and red calipers with tinted rear windows. It's beautiful.
Happy to share the deal over pm if anyone wants more info.
aureol40012 said:
when you are spending £40k on a car already you aren’t going to give £500 a year a seconds thought.
Except.....1. people are not spending £40k, my Veloce was £30700, delivered in December, yet the official list price (which determines the road tax) was nudging the £40k / £500 limit, which is plain daft.
2. few people buy cars, they pay £xxx per month to use one, whether it's a lease, company car tax or PCP. So the road tax limit may be a consideration if it increases your monthly costs too much or puts you outside your company car rules. Heck I wanted to avoid it on principle because I already pay 75% of my income in taxes one way or another.
Edited by jaffa98 on Saturday 17th March 11:17
Edited by jaffa98 on Saturday 17th March 11:18
ColdoRS said:
Leasing is something I'm still not sure I ‘believe’ in...
Looks just like mine, excpet I have the Carbon fibre rear spoiler and tan leather..........but I digress.I do believe in leasing, or at least PCP-type deals, because I think modern cars are becoming rather difficult to own beyond the warranty period due to the amount of electronics / wiring and the associated repair costs, it's too much of a lottery.
Leasing makes a lot of sense to me. Unless you have a bucket load of cash to throw at a car, then it is a much less risky way of running a car than taking a risk with the residuals on. PCP or a balloon payment loan system.
The key obviously is to get the right deal, good discount and low interest. My car will cost me roughly half what I would have expected to pay cash at even at the massive discounts you can get. Ok I wil hand it back after three years and 45000 miles, but I have no worries about it being worth less than I owe at that point.
The key obviously is to get the right deal, good discount and low interest. My car will cost me roughly half what I would have expected to pay cash at even at the massive discounts you can get. Ok I wil hand it back after three years and 45000 miles, but I have no worries about it being worth less than I owe at that point.
velocemitch said:
taking a risk with the residuals on. PCP or a balloon payment loan system
My PCP deals have always had the option to hand the car back at the end of the term instead of making the baloon payment, so there's no risk over the residual any more than there would be on a lease. On a positive note you can get out of a PCP deal early, under the same terms as a normal HP deal if you need to or pay the baloon and own the car at the end if that suits.The problem with the PCPs at least when I was looking was the interest rates were higher and they seemed to have a lower expectation of value at the end. Hence higher total cost.
Paying off a PCP or handing back isn’t always that straight forward, the Toyota one we have for an Aygo, states that you must have paid at least half the outstanding debt before they will let you return the car. It’s pretty unlikely that’s going to happen until the very end of the term.apply that to my lease deal and I doubt it would ever reach 50%.
Paying off a PCP or handing back isn’t always that straight forward, the Toyota one we have for an Aygo, states that you must have paid at least half the outstanding debt before they will let you return the car. It’s pretty unlikely that’s going to happen until the very end of the term.apply that to my lease deal and I doubt it would ever reach 50%.
Edited by velocemitch on Saturday 17th March 17:27
velocemitch said:
The problem with the PCPs at least when I was looking was the interest rates were higher and they seemed to have a lower expectation of value at the end.
I didn't experience that with my Veloce, the rate with AR finance was 1.1% and the final value a little over £15000 which for a 3 year old £30700 car seemed reasonable. And if it happens to be worth more at the end I can sell it and keep the difference.All that matters is we're happy with the car and the deal - I certainly am.
jaffa98 said:
I didn't experience that with my Veloce, the rate with AR finance was 1.1% and the final value a little over £15000 which for a 3 year old £30700 car seemed reasonable. And if it happens to be worth more at the end I can sell it and keep the difference.
All that matters is we're happy with the car and the deal - I certainly am.
Exactly the same here. I was always against PCP and admit to being someone who made the 'occasional' off the cuff comment about the number of base spec white financed A-classes on the roads.All that matters is we're happy with the car and the deal - I certainly am.
Then I started looking at replacing my car and found that in this case in particular, PCP was the way forward for me. Especially if I wanted anything above £25k.
Had the same offer - about £31k for a car nudging £40k list, with 1.5% APR, and a retained value of just under £15k.
Over the moon with the deal I ended up with, and it free'd up cash from my previous car to sort other things (like my wedding).
Absolutely stunning car, seems excellent quality and hugely refined, just a shame it's snowed overnight so I can't go anywhere in it today!
I got my Veloce last November on PCP. I'd not been a fan of PCP prior to this, but my offer was too good to pass up. Similar to those above, the list price was just shy of £40K, but the car was actually around £31.5K after discounts. I got 0% APR over 3 years, with a residual value just over £15K. The numbers worked for me (having put a deposit down, I'm only paying £142 a month on 12K miles pa). Tremendous machine!
Edited by Noisy Neighbour on Sunday 18th March 13:39
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