4C - Where are we with prices right now?
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skircoatshed said:
lawrywild said:
What spec are you looking for?
Ideally a 50th anniversary in Rosso competizione. Failing that a high spec spider with the 18/19 wheels, racing exhaust, leather dash, carbon air intake, leather or microfibre seats, parking sensors and cruise control in any colour except yellow. Full service history and not an ex lease would be a bonus.I had the same idea and in fact bought that exact car in December, thinking I want the Alfa warranty and to be able to extend it. But now I’ve owned it for 6 months I couldn’t have been more wrong. The service from AR is so, so bad it’s not worth worrying about. Genuinely I’m happy the warranty has expired and I never have to deal with them again.
Chrisatronic said:
skircoatshed said:
lawrywild said:
What spec are you looking for?
Ideally a 50th anniversary in Rosso competizione. Failing that a high spec spider with the 18/19 wheels, racing exhaust, leather dash, carbon air intake, leather or microfibre seats, parking sensors and cruise control in any colour except yellow. Full service history and not an ex lease would be a bonus.I had the same idea and in fact bought that exact car in December, thinking I want the Alfa warranty and to be able to extend it. But now I’ve owned it for 6 months I couldn’t have been more wrong. The service from AR is so, so bad it’s not worth worrying about. Genuinely I’m happy the warranty has expired and I never have to deal with them again.
skircoatshed said:
Those are fair points. To be honest I’d rather see an Alfaworks stamp in the service book than a random Alfa dealer. I’m probably being unfair saying not ex lease seen as I had one. I just know a lot sat at Manheim for months and a couple I went to look at hadn’t been particularly well looked after. I think most of them will be out of the Leasys system by now.
Yes, the main reason for me was to keep that warranty intact. But turns out in reality it's worthless as the service is so, so bad anyway. Just recently I've claimed on the NSF balljoints and the parts have taken over 2 months to arrive, with no ETA that whole time. Just worthless having a car off the road for 2 months for a bloody balljoint! Took it to AlfaWorks and paid to get it done, at least I can use the car now!What use is a warranty if they have no requirement to actually do anything in a timely manner? You could have a gearbox explode and 'yes sir the parts are on backorder' for a year! Awful. There's a Giulia QF in Swindon that's been sat with a blown engine since March!
My servicing has always been done by Alfaworks. Never even crossed my mind to use a dealership!
Ive left Johnsons Swindon do some warranty work on replacing the battery when it died on the M4. Ben and Jamie just identified a dead air con pump in the 60,000 mile service this week, so she is booked back in with Johnsons to have that replaced. In the last month of the 3 yr warranty!
And I live at the opposite end of the country to Alfaworks!
Ive left Johnsons Swindon do some warranty work on replacing the battery when it died on the M4. Ben and Jamie just identified a dead air con pump in the 60,000 mile service this week, so she is booked back in with Johnsons to have that replaced. In the last month of the 3 yr warranty!
And I live at the opposite end of the country to Alfaworks!
PeterGadsby said:
I get mine serviced at Alfaworks as well, they are always really good.
Only real issue is their courtesy cars are a bit crap, but I can live with that.
Pete
I get mine turned around same day, just take my laptop there and do some work, either there or in the Costa in the nearby Tesco.Only real issue is their courtesy cars are a bit crap, but I can live with that.
Pete
Chrisatronic said:
From experience I would recommend dropping the not ex-lease and FSH requirement (almost).
I had the same idea and in fact bought that exact car in December, thinking I want the Alfa warranty and to be able to extend it. But now I’ve owned it for 6 months I couldn’t have been more wrong. The service from AR is so, so bad it’s not worth worrying about. Genuinely I’m happy the warranty has expired and I never have to deal with them again.
Spot on! I was supposed to book my car in with AR dealer for the year 5 major service this year since I have done the service with them last year. But when mentioned to them about checking the bolt torque, they look blank at me. That's when I decided it's time to go with Alfawork. I had the same idea and in fact bought that exact car in December, thinking I want the Alfa warranty and to be able to extend it. But now I’ve owned it for 6 months I couldn’t have been more wrong. The service from AR is so, so bad it’s not worth worrying about. Genuinely I’m happy the warranty has expired and I never have to deal with them again.
With regarding to warranty I think its pretty safe to not even have one as the car is generally solid by the looks of other 4C owners experience. Mind have had no issues whatsoever for the past 2 years.
I’ve had 2 4c’s Both had a few niggles when new but have since been incredibly reliable . I’m 60+ so have many cars and they are both the most reliable cars I’ve owned. Re servicing I would agree whole heartedly that AlfaWorks are the best. As with many Marques if you find someone who tunes and modifies cars in a logical and detailed way as Alfaworks do they tend to work out fairly quickly the bits that break easily so that gives vast experience to draw on when fairly std or std cars have those annoying faults you can’t identify and a dealers 20 year old with a lap top has no idea because the lap top won’t tell him .
As for main dealers I’ve had good and bad. The one in Portsmouth was great but sadly are no more. I’ve used Swindon for a basic service and that was faultless but a service should be anyway. I’ll add at this point my second 4c came with 3 years free servicing so my wallet guided me to main dealers .
Of the others I found HWM in Walton on Thames were excellent, they are no Longer an Alfa dealer but they are still an Alfa recognized service centre so can do all warranty work and have some decent older techies who are proper mechanics , not just the lad with the infamous lap top . They are also privately owned so not part of some faceless motor group
Now as mine is 3+ I will use Alfaworks as there’s the experience there and they will be cheaper than a main stealer , their enthusiasm for the brand and the car I think is incredible and they have a lot of things you can add to the car / lighten your wallet with.
Barring me bumping into something they will see my car for many more years as it’s a keeper
As for main dealers I’ve had good and bad. The one in Portsmouth was great but sadly are no more. I’ve used Swindon for a basic service and that was faultless but a service should be anyway. I’ll add at this point my second 4c came with 3 years free servicing so my wallet guided me to main dealers .
Of the others I found HWM in Walton on Thames were excellent, they are no Longer an Alfa dealer but they are still an Alfa recognized service centre so can do all warranty work and have some decent older techies who are proper mechanics , not just the lad with the infamous lap top . They are also privately owned so not part of some faceless motor group
Now as mine is 3+ I will use Alfaworks as there’s the experience there and they will be cheaper than a main stealer , their enthusiasm for the brand and the car I think is incredible and they have a lot of things you can add to the car / lighten your wallet with.
Barring me bumping into something they will see my car for many more years as it’s a keeper
Clean looking example just gone up for sale at a reasonable price......in the current market.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008242...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008242...
Are UK cars cheaper than European S/Hand ??
I’ve just seen this private add on the 4c faceless page , works out at £51806
I'm selling my 4C (2017), I'm the first owner, only 7.000km, located in Germany. Rosso Competizione, sport package, perfect status, new service, only summer-season, Price: 57.500,- (incl. 16% VAT).
I’ve just seen this private add on the 4c faceless page , works out at £51806
I'm selling my 4C (2017), I'm the first owner, only 7.000km, located in Germany. Rosso Competizione, sport package, perfect status, new service, only summer-season, Price: 57.500,- (incl. 16% VAT).
Chrisatronic said:
They have to be the lowest mileage ‘normal’ cars on the road. 8000 miles in 5 years! Slightly worried I’m going to have the highest mileage car when it comes to sale time, really struggling to keep it under the 7500 I declared to insurance this year.
Same "problem" here too, but it's the price of enjoyment. I'm pretty sure there are some cars above 30k miles. Mine's at almost 22k and I bought it at 8k so won't be long until it's at 30k. Just imagine owning say, a 458 Speciale, and how you would feel about doing mileage then...
In relative terms, these engines should be fine well above 100k miles, so it's nothing in the grand scheme of things, as long maintenance is kept on top of.
Edited by lawrywild on Tuesday 25th August 10:27
lawrywild said:
Same "problem" here too, but it's the price of enjoyment. I'm pretty sure there are some cars above 30k miles. Mine's at almost 22k and I bought it at 8k so won't be long until it's at 30k.
Just imagine owning say, a 458 Speciale, and how you would feel about doing mileage then...
In relative terms, these engines should be fine well above 100k miles, so it's nothing in the grand scheme of things, as long maintenance is kept on top of.
Several cars documented on the 4C forum in excess of 100k miles with very few issuesJust imagine owning say, a 458 Speciale, and how you would feel about doing mileage then...
In relative terms, these engines should be fine well above 100k miles, so it's nothing in the grand scheme of things, as long maintenance is kept on top of.
Edited by lawrywild on Tuesday 25th August 10:27
burty39 said:
At least 1 UK car that I am aware of
Oh fair play to that person. Even on a LE that's almost 20k a year on average.A 35k mile grey one just popped up on AT too. I guess the high mileage ones are owned and being driven hence they rarely pop up!
I'm starting to get an itch to replace mine with a 570s, but every time I sit down and consider it seriously, although I can afford to buy one, I think about a) warranty b) insurance c) track days (consumables and insurance) and d) whether it will work when I want/need it to and I generally circle back round to keeping my 4C. The 570s is better but.. is it worth that difference? 4C is way cheaper to run, and it works all the time. Pretty sure I'll be unable to resist forever and do it eventually though
Edited by lawrywild on Wednesday 26th August 17:00
lawrywild said:
I'm starting to get an itch to replace mine with a 570s, but every time I sit down and consider it seriously, although I can afford to buy one, I think about a) warranty b) insurance c) track days (consumables and insurance) and d) whether it will work when I want/need it to and I generally circle back round to keeping my 4C. The 570s is better but.. is it worth that difference? 4C is way cheaper to run, and it works all the time. Pretty sure I'll be unable to resist forever and do it eventually though
Are you me? Exact same thoughts, not there yet but hopefully this time next year. But as you say, the step up to the ‘next’ level is vast in terms of cost, at least double the running costs if not more. Not convinced it’s worth it, maybe for a year just to get it out the system?Edited by lawrywild on Wednesday 26th August 17:00
Chrisatronic said:
Are you me? Exact same thoughts, not there yet but hopefully this time next year. But as you say, the step up to the ‘next’ level is vast in terms of cost, at least double the running costs if not more. Not convinced it’s worth it, maybe for a year just to get it out the system?
I think it’ll be a lot more than double the running costs of a 4c.. Don’t get me wrong it’s a beautiful car, but is it really worth the additional expense, not for me.I’ve owned all sorts of performance cars over the years, the 4c is by some margin the cheapest car to run. Insurance for me is £300 a year, road tax £200 (prior to March 2017) . Fuel consumption is mid to high 30’s, it’s a very lightweight car so it’s easy on brakes and Tyres, they seem to be extremely reliable based on the forums that I belong to and serving is circa £600 for a major, £300 for a minor give or take. Arguably it’s a rarer car than the Mac and remains a beautiful thing to look at..
I’m going the other way. Sold my LE last year and got a Ferrari F355 GTS manual. Absolutely fantastic car and it’s everything I’ve wanted it to be for the 20 odd years I’ve been listing after one but it hasn’t replaced the gap the Alfa left in my life so I’ll be looking to let the F car go at some point next year and get another 4c to hopefully keep hold of for a long time
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