4C - Where are we with prices right now?
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I visited HWM in a futile bid on their Spider (that someone else on this thread bought) Met Ollie and previously spoke to Paul. Professional, friendly chaps. Shame they aren’t a dealer anymore.
I like the Hampshire car. But it’s in the envy tax band and it’s had 3 owners. Other than that spec is 100% for me. Also like the black Stoneacre car. But I prefer teledials and the regular headlights over the carbon spider units.
Hitting the classifieds morning and night..
I like the Hampshire car. But it’s in the envy tax band and it’s had 3 owners. Other than that spec is 100% for me. Also like the black Stoneacre car. But I prefer teledials and the regular headlights over the carbon spider units.
Hitting the classifieds morning and night..
I'm looking at purchasing a 4C but have a few questions. I'm looking at a 2016 coupe, they seem to be around the 37k mark. What should be my target price? and also any must have options?
I have also seen a few launch editions advertised around the 40k mark, do you guys see these depreciating less than a 2016? and is there any difference between the 2016s?
Thanks
I have also seen a few launch editions advertised around the 40k mark, do you guys see these depreciating less than a 2016? and is there any difference between the 2016s?
Thanks
gb93 said:
I'm looking at purchasing a 4C but have a few questions. I'm looking at a 2016 coupe, they seem to be around the 37k mark. What should be my target price? and also any must have options?
I have also seen a few launch editions advertised around the 40k mark, do you guys see these depreciating less than a 2016? and is there any difference between the 2016s?
Thanks
Hard to give a target price as the price is always dependant on the condition of the car , if it’s cheap there’s usually a reason , if it’s pricey but pristine it might be worth itI have also seen a few launch editions advertised around the 40k mark, do you guys see these depreciating less than a 2016? and is there any difference between the 2016s?
Thanks
Re launch editions if your going to put mikes on it then I don’t think it will be worth the premium , there are quite a few with. very low mileage and the market will always favour those.
If you want one to drive and enjoy the newer the car the better it will be. I’ve had 2 and the 2017 was so much better than the 2014 .
Must haves , reversing sensors is the biggest I think , leather seems to be preferred for seats and dash . PPF a good idea as it saves the front, cruise really nice to have as it’s so easy to find yourself load testing your licence on long runs . The parrot radio in the early cars I found needlessly complex but that’s not a deal breaker, with no sound proofing the exhaust note takes over
Must have full service history , servicing isn’t cheap and I believe a few low mileage cars may not have been serviced to the schedule
There’s a thread somewhere listing the must haves but I can’t find it, maybe someone else will be able to find it
Edited by Stuart J on Sunday 21st October 06:35
Edited by Stuart J on Sunday 21st October 06:36
Edited by Stuart J on Sunday 21st October 06:38
gb93 said:
I'm looking at purchasing a 4C but have a few questions. I'm looking at a 2016 coupe, they seem to be around the 37k mark. What should be my target price? and also any must have options?
I have also seen a few launch editions advertised around the 40k mark, do you guys see these depreciating less than a 2016? and is there any difference between the 2016s?
Thanks
No difereences that I'm aware of for the 2016 model year other than a cars individual spec or the fact it's a coupe or spider.I have also seen a few launch editions advertised around the 40k mark, do you guys see these depreciating less than a 2016? and is there any difference between the 2016s?
Thanks
There's a lot of excellent info in the guide posted by Joe at the top of this thread.
Stuart J said:
Must have full service history , servicing isn’t cheap and I believe a few low mileage cars may not have been serviced to the schedule
That’d be the worry for me - with so many of these cars on relatively short-term leases, there is less incentive for the ‘owner’ to look after them well. There’s a thread on here somewhere with folks actively looking for ways to weasel out of the servicing commitments before handing the car back, I’m not sure it’s a car I’d like to take on without a solid history.I’ve been following the market closely on these for months now. They don’t sell quickly. Private sale cars are very close to dealer money and in totum there aren’t many cars for sale.
Those, like me, who want one, seem to get what the cars are about. A more civilised, and livable Lotus Elise. The trade as a whole don’t get them, save some specialists who seem to be trying to fortify prices.
At mid £40’s the cars don’t seem to sell. Lack of key options hurts desirability. You could reasonably get seats retrimmed in leather but resolving the dash, if not leather trimmed, is going to expensive and loads of hassle.
More than a few cars I’ve enquired after are SOR as well which makes negotiating difficult as dealers aren’t willing to compromise their margin.
Winter on the way and Brexit uncertainty will have some owners getting itchy I’m sure. At mid £40’s you’d need to really want one as that’s buying a nice 981 Cayman/Boxster or Lotus.
The inevitable release of ex lease cars will rock values as well and the 4C forums report that Maserati factory workers have been assured their jobs are safe as production will continue till December 2019. Quite where this leaves ‘Final Edition’ cars is unclear.
Those, like me, who want one, seem to get what the cars are about. A more civilised, and livable Lotus Elise. The trade as a whole don’t get them, save some specialists who seem to be trying to fortify prices.
At mid £40’s the cars don’t seem to sell. Lack of key options hurts desirability. You could reasonably get seats retrimmed in leather but resolving the dash, if not leather trimmed, is going to expensive and loads of hassle.
More than a few cars I’ve enquired after are SOR as well which makes negotiating difficult as dealers aren’t willing to compromise their margin.
Winter on the way and Brexit uncertainty will have some owners getting itchy I’m sure. At mid £40’s you’d need to really want one as that’s buying a nice 981 Cayman/Boxster or Lotus.
The inevitable release of ex lease cars will rock values as well and the 4C forums report that Maserati factory workers have been assured their jobs are safe as production will continue till December 2019. Quite where this leaves ‘Final Edition’ cars is unclear.
highway said:
I’ve been following the market closely on these for months now. They don’t sell quickly. Private sale cars are very close to dealer money and in totum there aren’t many cars for sale.
Those, like me, who want one, seem to get what the cars are about. A more civilised, and livable Lotus Elise. The trade as a whole don’t get them, save some specialists who seem to be trying to fortify prices.
At mid £40’s the cars don’t seem to sell. Lack of key options hurts desirability. You could reasonably get seats retrimmed in leather but resolving the dash, if not leather trimmed, is going to expensive and loads of hassle.
More than a few cars I’ve enquired after are SOR as well which makes negotiating difficult as dealers aren’t willing to compromise their margin.
Winter on the way and Brexit uncertainty will have some owners getting itchy I’m sure. At mid £40’s you’d need to really want one as that’s buying a nice 981 Cayman/Boxster or Lotus.
The inevitable release of ex lease cars will rock values as well and the 4C forums report that Maserati factory workers have been assured their jobs are safe as production will continue till December 2019. Quite where this leaves ‘Final Edition’ cars is unclear.
Alfa and the truth is always to be interpreted . They have the final edition cars announced at Geneva to build which I understand Alfa UK aren’t taking and they are still available on the Alfa North America site so honestly who knows . Re the lease cars I believe some were base spec so won’t comment re price . Those, like me, who want one, seem to get what the cars are about. A more civilised, and livable Lotus Elise. The trade as a whole don’t get them, save some specialists who seem to be trying to fortify prices.
At mid £40’s the cars don’t seem to sell. Lack of key options hurts desirability. You could reasonably get seats retrimmed in leather but resolving the dash, if not leather trimmed, is going to expensive and loads of hassle.
More than a few cars I’ve enquired after are SOR as well which makes negotiating difficult as dealers aren’t willing to compromise their margin.
Winter on the way and Brexit uncertainty will have some owners getting itchy I’m sure. At mid £40’s you’d need to really want one as that’s buying a nice 981 Cayman/Boxster or Lotus.
The inevitable release of ex lease cars will rock values as well and the 4C forums report that Maserati factory workers have been assured their jobs are safe as production will continue till December 2019. Quite where this leaves ‘Final Edition’ cars is unclear.
For anyone buying just answer one question, do you want to go out and drive it and enjoy or just do a few runs a year , that will have a bearing on what you buy . I’ve had no reliability issues and I haven’t heard of any major issues so don’t be scared to buy one and stick some miles on it . The car market in general is in free fall at the top and a few might dump the exotics and get a 4c as a stop gap , it’s completely unpredictable imho . As always if you can’t to afford to buy, enjoy and risk depreciation buy a car that you can , cars are built to be driven and the only way you really learn how to drive and enjoy it is stick some miles on it . For me for value for money nothing comes close for the shear smile and driver satisfaction
Edited by Stuart J on Sunday 21st October 19:57
Edited by Stuart J on Monday 22 October 09:49
Stuart J said:
The car market in general is in free fall at the top and a few might dump the exotics and get a 4c as a stop gap , it’s completely unpredictable imho .
There could be some traction in that as the Social Media types are promoting some interest in 4C after @888_mf bought one as a 'daily' to run alongside his Perfomante. He's going to make a review video in the next few days 
highway said:
So you don’t think that anyone wanting a 4C would consider anything else? You are mistaken. I’d like a 4C. I’d consider the right 981 or Elise. Despite the uniqueness of the carbon tub, as a driving experience the car doesn’t compete in market devoid of alternatives.
I test drove a couple of well spec'd 981 Boxsters when I first decided I needed a fun car. They were nice enough, and suited my basic requirement of being relatively quick to sell if circumstances changed. However, they definitely didn't scream "buy me".I test drove a 4C Spider, and knew I needed one.
Unfortunately, to meet my requirement of being able to bail if I needed to, I leased one - novated someone elses lease. This means I've been renting one for the past year, whilst secondhand prices have remained pretty much static. My current plan is to try to extend the lease to 3 years, but I'll make my mind up closer to the time.
DeejRC said:
The 4C is NOT an alternative to an Elise or Exige!
It might help matters if ppl stopped thinking it was for a start!
It isn’t a rival to Boxsters or Alpines.
If you think it is, then you don’t “get” a 4C at all.
Ours is. Had 3 Elises then this. It’s a rival to anything you want it to be it’s a car and a pretty one at that. The biggest problem is people over thinking sIt might help matters if ppl stopped thinking it was for a start!
It isn’t a rival to Boxsters or Alpines.
If you think it is, then you don’t “get” a 4C at all.
t. I had a Cayman GTS before the 4C. To be honest I'm baffled at people like Chris Harris bothering to compare the two. Other than the mid-engined layout and pricing they have very little in common. The Cayman is a very comfortable and capable GT car, and if you're in the right situation allowing you to dig deep enough, an impressive sports car. However the 4C's identity is apparent as soon as you get in and turn the key. You don't need to press several buttons or be doing 90 in second gear for the (infinitely more engaging) fun to begin. I picked mine up on Wednesday and absolutely love it. I'll stick up a pic when I get a chance.
Apologies if either on topic or posted before but thought I’d share this link.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=faFo40izlhk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=faFo40izlhk
I totally agree with the above that they are just different. I came out of a manual 991.2 GTS and it is a totally different animal. If you want a fun lively car then this hits the spot.
If anything price and interest has increased since I first started looking, mine was intended as a stop gap, but I will keep it now.
It is just a lot of fun, and so alive. Comparing with the great all round skills of the Cayman is just to difficult, they are two different animals.
Apart from the awful dealer network, they are the bargain of the car world, but that is just a subjective opinion.
So I guess you just pick what suits your needs, and then just enjoy it.
If anything price and interest has increased since I first started looking, mine was intended as a stop gap, but I will keep it now.
It is just a lot of fun, and so alive. Comparing with the great all round skills of the Cayman is just to difficult, they are two different animals.
Apart from the awful dealer network, they are the bargain of the car world, but that is just a subjective opinion.
So I guess you just pick what suits your needs, and then just enjoy it.
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