4C - Where are we with prices right now?
Discussion
ocrx8 said:
This thread must be closed. I’ve never wanted a car more than a 4C 
A white Spider has just come up with:
Tan leather
Leather dash
Coupe lights
Someone buy it before I sell a body part in order to do so.
MateA white Spider has just come up with:
Tan leather
Leather dash
Coupe lights
Someone buy it before I sell a body part in order to do so.
Edited by ocrx8 on Wednesday 24th October 21:07
Sell a kidney
You won’t regret it
highway said:
I’ve been following the market closely on these for months now. They don’t sell quickly. Private sale cars are very close to dealer money and in totum there aren’t many cars for sale.
Those, like me, who want one, seem to get what the cars are about. A more civilised, and livable Lotus Elise. The trade as a whole don’t get them, save some specialists who seem to be trying to fortify prices.
At mid £40’s the cars don’t seem to sell. Lack of key options hurts desirability. You could reasonably get seats retrimmed in leather but resolving the dash, if not leather trimmed, is going to expensive and loads of hassle.
More than a few cars I’ve enquired after are SOR as well which makes negotiating difficult as dealers aren’t willing to compromise their margin.
Winter on the way and Brexit uncertainty will have some owners getting itchy I’m sure. At mid £40’s you’d need to really want one as that’s buying a nice 981 Cayman/Boxster or Lotus.
The inevitable release of ex lease cars will rock values as well and the 4C forums report that Maserati factory workers have been assured their jobs are safe as production will continue till December 2019. Quite where this leaves ‘Final Edition’ cars is unclear.
I know that you are on the hunt for the perfect 35K car but quite frankly that car doesn't exist at the moment. Regarding traders fortifying prices, they have been pretty solid for quite some time. Any coupe that drops sub 35K generally goes within 48hours. Regarding the SOR cars, most traders charge a fixed fee these days (I do) and therefore its not about margins at all. However, I would sooner tell most of my clients to keep their cars than accept 35K just because someone really wants a great deal. If the car is a good spec then they sell reasonably quickly.Those, like me, who want one, seem to get what the cars are about. A more civilised, and livable Lotus Elise. The trade as a whole don’t get them, save some specialists who seem to be trying to fortify prices.
At mid £40’s the cars don’t seem to sell. Lack of key options hurts desirability. You could reasonably get seats retrimmed in leather but resolving the dash, if not leather trimmed, is going to expensive and loads of hassle.
More than a few cars I’ve enquired after are SOR as well which makes negotiating difficult as dealers aren’t willing to compromise their margin.
Winter on the way and Brexit uncertainty will have some owners getting itchy I’m sure. At mid £40’s you’d need to really want one as that’s buying a nice 981 Cayman/Boxster or Lotus.
The inevitable release of ex lease cars will rock values as well and the 4C forums report that Maserati factory workers have been assured their jobs are safe as production will continue till December 2019. Quite where this leaves ‘Final Edition’ cars is unclear.
Trade in prices for these cars are around 31-33K at the moment regardless of age and reasonable mileage.
Regarding other cars to buy, (and taking money out of the equation) they aren't comparable to much else on the market. They are closer to an upmarket elise/exige I guess. I never compare them to the cayman or boxster (I own a GT4). The Cayman/Boxster is a great sports car, but they never feel as special bar the GT4.
Regarding the ex lease cars, most of them are black cars with plastic headlights, smaller wheels and fabric seats. I doubt they will have an affect on the rest of the market. In addition the UK isn't going to receive any final edition cars, they will all be LHD so they don't affect things at all.
My advice to anyone is to buy purely based on condition and specification. If it works for you, then its worth the money. They won't be 30k cars any time soon.
Edited by _Superleggera_ on Thursday 25th October 08:51
Edited by _Superleggera_ on Thursday 25th October 09:10
_Superleggera_ said:
highway said:
I’ve been following the market closely on these for months now. They don’t sell quickly. Private sale cars are very close to dealer money and in totum there aren’t many cars for sale.
Those, like me, who want one, seem to get what the cars are about. A more civilised, and livable Lotus Elise. The trade as a whole don’t get them, save some specialists who seem to be trying to fortify prices.
At mid £40’s the cars don’t seem to sell. Lack of key options hurts desirability. You could reasonably get seats retrimmed in leather but resolving the dash, if not leather trimmed, is going to expensive and loads of hassle.
More than a few cars I’ve enquired after are SOR as well which makes negotiating difficult as dealers aren’t willing to compromise their margin.
Winter on the way and Brexit uncertainty will have some owners getting itchy I’m sure. At mid £40’s you’d need to really want one as that’s buying a nice 981 Cayman/Boxster or Lotus.
The inevitable release of ex lease cars will rock values as well and the 4C forums report that Maserati factory workers have been assured their jobs are safe as production will continue till December 2019. Quite where this leaves ‘Final Edition’ cars is unclear.
I know that you are on the hunt for the perfect 35K car but quite frankly that car doesn't exist at the moment. Regarding traders fortifying prices, they have been pretty solid for quite some time. Any coupe that drops sub 35K generally goes within 48hours. Regarding the SOR cars, most traders charge a fixed fee these days (I do) and therefore its not about margins at all. However, I would sooner tell most of my clients to keep their cars than accept 35K just because someone really wants a great deal. If the car is a good spec then they sell reasonably quickly.Those, like me, who want one, seem to get what the cars are about. A more civilised, and livable Lotus Elise. The trade as a whole don’t get them, save some specialists who seem to be trying to fortify prices.
At mid £40’s the cars don’t seem to sell. Lack of key options hurts desirability. You could reasonably get seats retrimmed in leather but resolving the dash, if not leather trimmed, is going to expensive and loads of hassle.
More than a few cars I’ve enquired after are SOR as well which makes negotiating difficult as dealers aren’t willing to compromise their margin.
Winter on the way and Brexit uncertainty will have some owners getting itchy I’m sure. At mid £40’s you’d need to really want one as that’s buying a nice 981 Cayman/Boxster or Lotus.
The inevitable release of ex lease cars will rock values as well and the 4C forums report that Maserati factory workers have been assured their jobs are safe as production will continue till December 2019. Quite where this leaves ‘Final Edition’ cars is unclear.
Trade in prices for these cars are around 31-33K at the moment regardless of age and reasonable mileage.
Regarding other cars to buy, (and taking money out of the equation) they aren't comparable to much else on the market. They are closer to an upmarket elise/exige I guess. I never compare them to the cayman or boxster (I own a GT4). The Cayman/Boxster is a great sports car, but they never feels special bar the GT4.
Regarding the ex lease cars, most of them are black cars with plastic headlights, smaller wheels and fabric seats. I doubt they will have an affect on the rest of the market. In addition the UK isn't going to receive any final edition cars, they will all be LHD so they don't affect things at all.
My advice to anyone is to buy purely based on condition and specification. If it works for you, then its worth the money. They won't be 30k cars any time soon.
Edited by _Superleggera_ on Thursday 25th October 08:51
I drove mine yesterday for the first time in a while due to an operation.
I forgot what fun it was.
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