4C - Where are we with prices right now?

4C - Where are we with prices right now?

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Wayne95

404 posts

246 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Thanks for the feedback on daily use.

Sounds like I would be better not getting the sports exhaust and fitting an Alfaworks - probably st the same time as the suspension tweaks.

Is the spider much noisier , and how easy to go topless and back? I had an Elise and it took ages to put back on right and usually broke a finger

Noise cancelling ear plugs a good idea, my lad does the same on his very loud Harley for longer journeys


Jim82

177 posts

62 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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The race exhaust is a joy - except at 80 mph - I find the top very easy to take out and put back even on your own. Just take your time and be careful that it doesn’t fall into the car. I love the car, it begs to be driven fast and attracts loads of positive attention. Can’t convince myself either way about the Alfaworks geo fix.

Moley RUFC

3,616 posts

189 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Wayne95 said:
Thanks for the feedback on daily use.

Sounds like I would be better not getting the sports exhaust and fitting an Alfaworks - probably st the same time as the suspension tweaks.

Is the spider much noisier , and how easy to go topless and back? I had an Elise and it took ages to put back on right and usually broke a finger

Noise cancelling ear plugs a good idea, my lad does the same on his very loud Harley for longer journeys
The Spider with roof off and with a race exhaust is far louder than the coupe having driven both - it really does make some noise!!!

In terms of taking the roof off I would suggest around 2 minutes maximum.

1) Unscrew the two centre bolts whilst sat in the car.
2) Climb out and release the driver side internal catches (not forgetting to unclip the boot release on the way out). Lift the unfixed section of the roof and fold across towards the passenger side.
3) Lift and fix the boot in position on the way around to the passenger side. Repeat the internal catch whilst standing at the side of the passenger sit.
4) Fold the remaining half of the roof across - pick up and place in the already opened boot - don the shades, lower the windows and enjoy!

_Superleggera_

2,004 posts

197 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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The drone is much less in the spider.

Of course it’s louder with the roof off!

The drone is due to the way the engine is contained in the coupe with glass reflecting the sound back into the car. The GRP boot of the spider allows a lot more of the sound to escape.

Wayne95

404 posts

246 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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_Superleggera_ said:
The drone is much less in the spider.

Of course it’s louder with the roof off!

The drone is due to the way the engine is contained in the coupe with glass reflecting the sound back into the car. The GRP boot of the spider allows a lot more of the sound to escape.
Thanks, so there are no compromises with the spider , quieter when needed, louder when needed.

Just need to find one now, like the yellow but couldn’t live with it as a daily - draw even more attention .

Any specialists selling these, not sure Alfa dealers are really up to it

DeejRC

5,799 posts

82 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Wayne95 said:
DeejRC said:
73/74 will see you return 44mpg, ie the pre boom speed.

2000 miles a month on mway and local traffic returns around 41mpg.
Hi
Thinking of getting a 4c, but commute 70 miles each way three times a week, and 125 miles home on Fridays . Will the 4c be too stressful or can it cope well with motorway miles in some comfort?

If the seat is good and not too loud at a cruise I can cope with ride harshness for handling reward when I hit the A roads
The ride isn't that harsh. Its not Lotus level of otherworldly God-like, but its not bad at all.

The 4C isn't stressful to do that journey at all, piece of cake. The car wraps around you like a glove. I find it a perfect travel companion.

MawsleyCarValeting

278 posts

184 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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MawsleyCarValeting said:


Evening peoples. Depending on how Saturday goes I may be selling our launch Edition. For more details message me thanks. Chris
Well that was a kick in the balls. Buying a Ferrari Cali from Grey Paul’s Nottingham until they gave me a trade in price today. Worst was £28k best is £33k. For the above 4c with 11k mile Alfaworks exhaust,280bhp ECU and geo done. Trouble is there is now five launch edition come up for sale.

Stuart J

1,301 posts

257 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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MawsleyCarValeting said:
Well that was a kick in the balls. Buying a Ferrari Cali from Grey Paul’s Nottingham until they gave me a trade in price today. Worst was £28k best is £33k. For the above 4c with 11k mile Alfaworks exhaust,280bhp ECU and geo done. Trouble is there is now five launch edition come up for sale.
Have dropped you a meesage on FB to your company account as I cant mail you from here

_Superleggera_

2,004 posts

197 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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MawsleyCarValeting said:
Well that was a kick in the balls. Buying a Ferrari Cali from Grey Paul’s Nottingham until they gave me a trade in price today. Worst was £28k best is £33k. For the above 4c with 11k mile Alfaworks exhaust,280bhp ECU and geo done. Trouble is there is now five launch edition come up for sale.
That is accurate for a trade on your car to be honest. Give me a call.

lawrywild

157 posts

62 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Why are trade in values so much lower than market value? Dealers can't be making 7-12k per sale on every 40k car (albeit there are costs/overheads/tax I get that) otherwise I'm in the wrong business

Terminator X

15,090 posts

204 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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lawrywild said:
Why are trade in values so much lower than market value? Dealers can't be making 7-12k per sale on every 40k car (albeit there are costs/overheads/tax I get that) otherwise I'm in the wrong business
Whilst un-sold they have to employ a chap to rub them down weekly with a brillo pad and some dirty water remember. Also dealer other overheads to pay eg the building, coffee, fizzy pop etc.

TX.

BlackPorker

379 posts

175 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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lawrywild said:
Why are trade in values so much lower than market value? Dealers can't be making 7-12k per sale on every 40k car (albeit there are costs/overheads/tax I get that) otherwise I'm in the wrong business
The spread on high end cars is much bigger than your usual family hatchback and reflects the risk a dealer takes with trade in. Best to go down the sale or return route.

At the end of the day the market value is what someone will buy it at. Dealers always need to take some margin!

Edited by BlackPorker on Tuesday 5th March 13:47

_Superleggera_

2,004 posts

197 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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6-7K spread on trade is normal for a 4C.

Realistically they might make 5K on the car after some haggling from a buyer.

is-uk

1,481 posts

216 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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If you saw what they'd offer you for the California literally 5 minutes after you'd driven out of their showroom with it you'd realise you have dodged a real bullet in terms of stinging depreciation.

BlackPorker

379 posts

175 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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is-uk said:
If you saw what they'd offer you for the California literally 5 minutes after you'd driven out of their showroom with it you'd realise you have dodged a real bullet in terms of stinging depreciation.
Absolutely, the more expensive the metal the bigger the spread!

MawsleyCarValeting

278 posts

184 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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I’m up to £35k now on another Cali from Meridien but had to go to £90k to get it. Looking at a GT4 Porsche Friday from Silverstone so let’s see what they offer. If £35k is the max then that will have to do.

is-uk

1,481 posts

216 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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I'm sure you've done your homework on the California. I've had two and had some roof troubles with the first car that were fixed under warranty. The running costs will be considerable compared to the 4C or a GT4 as annual services are not cheap at Ferrari main dealers and buyers will still expect to see main dealer stamps in the book on these cars. The dealer spread come trade in time will be at least £10k on a Cali. They are nice cars but definitely in the GT as opposed to sports car class. Having said that I owned a GT4 as well and that felt like a Bentley in comparison to the 4C in terms of comfort and refinement.

Stuart J

1,301 posts

257 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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90 will get you into an early McKaren as well , I know build quality is sometimes a lottery, maybe worse on current models but I know a few who’ve had 12c,s with no issues and they are meant to be very good to drive . There are also independent specialists appearing which is fine for an older car and with the std of some McLaren dealers they are arguably better . As with all things it’s personal choice but might be another consideration

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Edited by Stuart J on Wednesday 6th March 06:21

_Superleggera_

2,004 posts

197 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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Have a drive in all, I’m not sure how much you would like a Cali. Get a GT4. Or even a 997 GT3.

Coming from a 4C, I don’t think you will be happy with the Cali.




Edited by _Superleggera_ on Wednesday 6th March 10:45

_Superleggera_

2,004 posts

197 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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Quick update for you all on 4C Prices since my last update on the 30th Jan. On the up again.

Coupe asking prices have increased since last month with Coupe's now £1000 more. The current average is now £40,448

Spider asking prices have also increased by £1500 compared to last month at market average asking £43,790

Average Mileages for Both cars...
Coupe - 7338
Spider - 5974


Edited by _Superleggera_ on Wednesday 6th March 15:56