Abarth - why a 595 comp over a 695 XSR?

[pidsy]

Time has come to buy - I don’t want to spend more than £18k so naturally I’ve been looking at 595 comps.
Looking through autotrader the other day I noticed that the 695 XSR is in reach.

Other than the drop in power to 160 on the 695, it looks the better car - loads of carbon, the Akrapovich exhaust and I like the grey it comes in.

Am I missing something?
The lower power will be taken care of on either so that’s not really an issue.

I still don’t know the difference between a 595 and a 695 either.

So, why would you chose the comp over the XSR? (Or the other way round)

[Squadrone Rosso]

You can get the performance pack with a mechanical limited slip diff on the Comp.

As nice as it is, I don’t consider the XSR to be worthy of the 695 badge.

[pidsy]

Ok - because...?

It’s only the Biposto that should be a 695?

I’m not seeing any comps coming up with the PP at the moment for my budget.

Whatever I get will not stay standard for long, I was under the impression that the Akra was a far better exhaust too?

[Squadrone Rosso]

pidsy said:

Ok - because...?

It’s only the Biposto that should be a 695?

I’m not seeing any comps coming up with the PP at the moment for my budget.

Whatever I get will not stay standard for long, I was under the impression that the Akra was a far better exhaust too?

Exactly that. Ref the exhaust, I think it looks better but the Monza, to my ears at least, sounds better.

I’ve wired my Monza valve open to prevent the seizure issue. I don’t know if the Akrapovic suffers from the same (easily resolvable) issue.

[pidsy]

Ok - I’ll have to do some reading re the exhaust.

[Exoticaholic]

XSR doesn't have Sabelt sports seats like the Competizione.

[tomtom]

What does the performance pack add?

[Squadrone Rosso]

tomtom said:

What does the performance pack add?

Carbon Sabelt seats, mechanical LSD & lightweight sports wheels.

[pidsy]

Exoticaholic said:

XSR doesn't have Sabelt sports seats like the Competizione.

I saw they were leather. They looked nice - I wasn’t 100% sold on the comfort of the sabelts when I had a comp for a few days.

[Exoticaholic]

pidsy said:

I saw they were leather. They looked nice - I wasn’t 100% sold on the comfort of the sabelts when I had a comp for a few days.

Needs must. I am in Abarth number five right now, the last 3 with Sabelts which I'm hooked on.

Sabelts are absurdly expensive when ordered from a dealer after sales.

[tomtom]

Squadrone Rosso said:

Carbon Sabelt seats, mechanical LSD & lightweight sports wheels.

Cheers.

[ecsrobin]

tomtom said:

Squadrone Rosso said:

Carbon Sabelt seats, mechanical LSD & lightweight sports wheels.

Cheers.

Also removes the aerial for a metal plug.

The XSR was more a “parts bin special” of parts lying around the workshop.

With the XSR you don’t get the following:

BMC airfilter
Front Koni FSD suspension
Brembo brakes

[pidsy]

Ah - ok. Those were bits I hadn’t read about.

Swinging back towards a comp.

[DELTAHPE]

The comp with performance pack is the most complete package, you may regret the xsr as it lacks certain things as others have said. If you are buying used you did get one low miles with PP at below your budget

[pidsy]

I’m seeing lots with the lightweight wheels, not many with carbon sabelts and I haven’t seen one mention of the PP.

[ecsrobin]

pidsy said:

I’m seeing lots with the lightweight wheels, not many with carbon sabelts and I haven’t seen one mention of the PP.

A quick 2 seconds on PH classifieds.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

And this is worth £16k all day long: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/... this was AHM (specialist) demonstrator so has the 695 BMC air filter on and a remap to 220bhp if you don’t buy this car you’d be a fool.

[ecsrobin]

Autotrader:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Possibly PP car https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

All the cars I’ve posted are red as I thought that’s what you were after, just realised that’s another member.

[pidsy]

I’d avoided the ph classifieds cos they’re rubbish.

Red is fine by me.

Thanks all.

[DELTAHPE]

Garages don't always know about PP this is a bonus as they then don't price for it , from advert pics if the car is manual, supersport wheels, aerial delete it probably has the PP there is a label on the gearbox that shows it has LSD but I doubt you can see this unless you take the battery box and ECU out!

[ecsrobin]

DELTAHPE said:

Garages don't always know about PP this is a bonus as they then don't price for it , from advert pics if the car is manual, supersport wheels, aerial delete it probably has the PP there is a label on the gearbox that shows it has LSD but I doubt you can see this unless you take the battery box and ECU out!

The one at the lotus garage I posted earlier appears to be like this. The performance pack came with the wheels, aerial delete, LSD and stripes in red/white/black with matching bumper inserts. Normal comps are grey mirrors like the whisker and door handles.