Alfa Sele-speed - Anyone tried one? ANY GOOD??

Alfa Sele-speed - Anyone tried one? ANY GOOD??

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rallycross

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12,831 posts

238 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Anyone driven the sele-speed?
Thinking baout buying one, need to know if it can be used as a normal auto?

ie you just put it in 'drive' and it does it itself?

also any common faults on the sele-speed box to look out for on this car I've been offered?


thanks

jimbro1000

1,619 posts

285 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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Selespeed will work as a full auto if that is what you want. In fact as a full auto it is remarkably pleasant to drive.

The problem is that as a semi-auto it is what most people would refer to as dire, personally I would go a lot further than that and state that it is amongst the worst automotive gearing systems ever devised.

Alfa and Fiat have tried really hard to improve the system and later cars are far better than the early ones but when it comes down to it, it is, in a word crap.

With a degree of skill you can smooth the gear changes out but you have to continually second guess what the car is going to do. The auto change-up operation in semi- mode is liable to leave you with a broken nose from the steering wheel if you get it wrong.

If you want to keep all of the "manual" control over the gear then get a manual, if you want an automatic then get the selespeed but if you want a semi-automatic don't buy an Alfa.

pdV6

16,442 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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rallycross said:
ALFA SELE-SPEED - ANYONE TIRED ONE? ANY GOOD??

Have to admit that I've not actually driven a selespeed.
However, I've yet to come across anyone who has owned one and not had problems with it...

pwig

11,956 posts

271 months

Wednesday 25th May 2005
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yes they work for about 5 mins before the clutch, gearbox or actuator goes on the blink and costs you over a grand to fix.

walsingham

190 posts

248 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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test drove it and fully agree with all comments.

Fine as an auto, dog as a semi.

limpsfield

5,893 posts

254 months

Saturday 9th July 2005
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I am just bringing this back up to the top to see if I can get any further insight into the selespeed.

I have just sold my Merc CLK and am looking to buy a less than 5 year, less than 40k miles 156 2.0 and have found a nice one but its Selespeed.

Are they as bad as all that? Any positive comments from owners?

Thanks

pwig

11,956 posts

271 months

Saturday 9th July 2005
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Budget at least £1500 for when it fails.

limpsfield

5,893 posts

254 months

Saturday 9th July 2005
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Thanks pwig - are they really that unreliable then?

>> Edited by limpsfield on Saturday 9th July 14:38

flibbertigibbet

12 posts

234 months

Saturday 9th July 2005
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Can confirm Pwigs words. At the Alfa garage I'm working at we had 3 actuators in the bin the other week, each costing their owners over a grand to put right. Sorry but it really is a jerky pile of unreliable crap.

MILF

1,209 posts

246 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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At the risk of throwing more oil on the fire, its not just selespeeds, its 156 in general.

Id leave well alone if I was you sir.

pwig

11,956 posts

271 months

Wednesday 13th July 2005
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156's are fine.

Very little go wrong with them

silverback mike

11,290 posts

254 months

Thursday 14th July 2005
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My 156 has proved faultless in my ownership, and not too bad for the previous owner - only usual consumables apart from the turbo.

My previous 156 was ok too.

Not sele-speed though. Mind you my mate has had a selespeed from new and had no problems with it.
Must have had a lucky few.

MILF

1,209 posts

246 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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"156s are fine, very little goes wrong with them".

Well except for the odd gearbox. Oh & the cambelt letting go leading to the destruction of various engine ancillaries. Not to mention worn suspension bushes, mutiple electrical failures et al.

For someone who seemingly works in the motor industry pwig, you appear to be somewhat out of touch with the general motor trade opinion which is that Italian cars are damn unreliable contraptions. This is not to mention the numerous ownership surveys which usually place Alfa near or at the bottom of reliability, customer satisfaction etc etc.

Speaking personally Ill never buy any Italian car again (not withstanding a lottery win to get that 288 GTO Ive always hankered over) because in todays market, they are just too fragile & petulant.

pdV6

16,442 posts

262 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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You're like a stuck record, you are

MILF

1,209 posts

246 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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I know I know, but I am now as officially skint as a bankrupt church mouse, who the CSA are chasing for backdated child maintance.

Still, did mean I bought a Saab Convertible to replace the 156. Look lovely driving about with my blonde highlights & raybans.

MalcolmS

88 posts

261 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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In the interests of balance I feel I should point out that I've had a higher than average mileage 156 for the last 9 months and it's performed (almost) faultlessly.

I had to replace a rear suspension control arm when the bush gave way (cost £25) and the bracket which holds cat to the engine which cracked when attacked by a speed bump (cost less than a tenner). Put it this way, the whole 48,000 service including those bits cost less than £300.

Apart from that there have been no squeaks, no rattles, nothing has fallen off or gone wrong. And it drives like a dream.

EDIT: I should probably add that mine is a manual though.

>> Edited by MalcolmS on Friday 15th July 16:19