What's the story behind this?

What's the story behind this?

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smiffy180

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6,018 posts

152 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Just seen this on facebook. One person rekons they were "courtesy and test drive cars" (their words) and another suggested track cars. They both also said they're off to scrap yard as they are deemed unsellable.
Any ideas?

steviegunn

1,417 posts

186 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Test mules most likely, maybe ex Bond film cars?

AmitG

3,315 posts

162 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Maybe unregistered prototype versions which have to be destroyed? I seem to recall that manufacturers have to do this under certain circumstances, but don't know the details.

This might explain why they are being carted off in their entirety rather than being stripped of parts first.

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

186 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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If they were ex Bond Cars, surely they would need be the same spec and colour?

HQ2

2,336 posts

139 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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AmitG said:
Maybe unregistered prototype versions which have to be destroyed? I seem to recall that manufacturers have to do this under certain circumstances, but don't know the details.
This (I think). Not in the same league but Honda had a CRV on their BTCC stand last year and they said it would be destroyed after serving its purpose as it wasn't a 'proper' car for some reason (they did explain, I just wasn't paying much attention).

skip_1

3,475 posts

192 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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AmitG said:
Maybe unregistered prototype versions which have to be destroyed? I seem to recall that manufacturers have to do this under certain circumstances, but don't know the details.

This might explain why they are being carted off in their entirety rather than being stripped of parts first.
I recall someone saying that Topgear take advantage of cars like this e.g. Twingo 133 off the pier.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Heard about this.

It's the new Eddie Stobart car delivery service.

DanielSan

18,868 posts

169 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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HQ2 said:
This (I think). Not in the same league but Honda had a CRV on their BTCC stand last year and they said it would be destroyed after serving its purpose as it wasn't a 'proper' car for some reason (they did explain, I just wasn't paying much attention).
Official manufacturer line is to do with safety with it being a test/pre-production car. The real reason is if the car is destroyed there's some tax loophole they can.get round.

Sir Bagalot

6,544 posts

183 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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DanielSan said:
The real reason is if the car is destroyed there's some tax loophole they can.get round.
Correct, it's something to do with Tax hence why no parts can be removed.

Swoxy

2,805 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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I believe that car makers don’t have to pay VAT on the value of their prototypes if they are destroyed at the end of their development cycle, and when you consider that some prototypes cost over a million pounds to make, you can see that this is no small sum.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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More lunacy from the tax man. Is this home grown or EUSSR...?

smiffy180

Original Poster:

6,018 posts

152 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Interesting responses. Certainty interesting sight to see anyway smile

HTP99

22,755 posts

142 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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skip_1 said:
AmitG said:
Maybe unregistered prototype versions which have to be destroyed? I seem to recall that manufacturers have to do this under certain circumstances, but don't know the details.

This might explain why they are being carted off in their entirety rather than being stripped of parts first.
I recall someone saying that Topgear take advantage of cars like this e.g. Twingo 133 off the pier.
The Twingo 133 was actually a Renault UK car, it was run by one of the head office managers; I know which one.

The advertising and subsequent discussions and internet traffic about that particular event couldn't have been bought by Renault for the relative cheapness of wrecking a perfectly good car; in the grand scheme of things that advertising cost Renault peanuts.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

200 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Probably a pre production car, like this XK8 in 1997

http://v8macht.de/htmlhp/carsmore/rustinpeace/jagu...


aspirated

2,539 posts

148 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Still hurts to see those beautiful V12's like that, especially the DBS frown

Benni

3,520 posts

213 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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This evening I saw a photo from a friend who works as lorry driver.

He was delivering something into the Porsche factory and took a cheeky pic

of a line of 5 new GT3s that were waiting..................for some crash test.

Also some pics of crashed sports versions (raw bodies) with roll cages.

I did not even ask for a copy because if they were made public, the factory guys would not be amused.

I told him that he could have got into BIG trouble from works security if caught

but he just laughed it away.

wildcat45

8,094 posts

191 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Many many years ago, sometime like 1992, I remember reading a story in a Land Rover magazine about Ex-Lode Lane prototypes.

This company bought and broke them for parts. I recall Land Rover were OK with it. The article showed a 2 door Rsnge Rover apparently in the latest spec. The truth was it was a 1970s model that they had tricked out with a 3.9 motor etc

AmitG

3,315 posts

162 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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mybrainhurts said:
Heard about this.

It's the new Eddie Stobart car delivery service.
hehe

mini me

1,436 posts

195 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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DanielSan said:
Official manufacturer line is to do with safety with it being a test/pre-production car. The real reason is if the car is destroyed there's some tax loophole they can.get round.
Both are true. All our vehicles are crushed at the end of the development cycle. This generally tends to be once they are 3 years old and require an MOT. Depending upon the prototype level some parts may be stripped by a thrid party to be used as spares. anything deemed safety relevant is not allowerd i.e. brakes/susp etc. I see a lot of nice cars go to the crusher but as said, when you are claiming back tax on several million pounds worth of test equipment then its a no brainer really. even if they are astons in perfect condition.


Tuvra

7,921 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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I was wondering when this Russian company would be getting their new covered transporter: