You're in the armed forces, and they want you to do WHAT?

You're in the armed forces, and they want you to do WHAT?

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AngryApples

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5,449 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Is this idiot taking the outright piss or what?

98elise

26,646 posts

162 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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He's taking the piss, all RN recruits are trained in small arms during basic (or they were in my day). You don't really get the luxury of an opinion or choice after you join the armed forces.

slow_poke

1,855 posts

235 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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I kinda admire him. He wanted to be a medic, not a trigger-puller. So much so he stood up for his beliefs. Hope he can accept the consquences of that, though.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Wot? The navy is part of the military?

I'm not fully military-wise, but I would assume that it is unlikely he'd be sent to a front line anywhere. I'd have thought the training would be more of a general self defence part for if a ship or command post was over-run, a chopper went down etc.

Just doing the training certainly can't be a bad thing so why not?

I guess the underpants on the head and pencils up the nose couldn't get him out, so he's trying hard to be awkward and get discharged that way instead.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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He's bloody lucky I wasn't sitting on the District Court Martial!


Conscientious Objector my arse, Conchies don't join HM Armed Forces! I'll bet it's because the poor wee baby didn't want to be deployed on Ops. What makes him feel he is special? The Navy really needs to get a grip especially after the incident in the Persian Gulf with the fat WREN.

Maggot!

GWC

4,423 posts

196 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Zaxxon

4,057 posts

161 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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He either has belief's that he should never have joined up with or he's scared. Ca't blame him for being scared but it still reflects badly on him. Wrong man for the job unfortunatly

hidetheelephants

24,483 posts

194 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined. What a whiner.

driver67

978 posts

166 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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GWC said:
Hopefully seven months will mean seven months if he's serving it in a 'military correction facility'.

Dougie.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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slow_poke said:
I kinda admire him. He wanted to be a medic, not a trigger-puller.
EVERYONE knows you are off to the desert if you join up - it's like being traffic warden then moaning that you have to be all mean and ticket cars.

GWC

4,423 posts

196 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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driver67 said:
GWC said:
Hopefully seven months will mean seven months if he's serving it in a 'military correction facility'.

Dougie.
He'll be at Colchester Military Corrective Training Centre AKA 'the glasshouse' won't he? He won't like that.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Stick the fecker in Colchester and make him polish the dustbins.

if he was so anti the war in Afghanistan he could have bought himself out of the Service.

GWC

4,423 posts

196 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Buggles said:
GWC said:
He'll be at Colchester Military Corrective Training Centre AKA 'the glasshouse' won't he? He won't like that.
It depends really, he's got exactly what he wanted when you consider he was doing whatever it takes to not go to Afghanistan. Which means that some other bloke is going in his place.

It makes no mention of whether after his stint in the glasshouse, he's getting discharged or not. I really hope he is.
Yes it does, he was demoted and dismissed.

Taffer

2,132 posts

198 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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What a tool - the medical assistant role is quite clearly defined; it shouldn't have been a surprise to him that he might have to go somewhere hot and sandy and cope with people shooting at you.

Luckily, most RN medical assistants are made of sterner stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Nesbitt

Brave lass.

AngryApples

Original Poster:

5,449 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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98elise said:
He's taking the piss, all RN recruits are trained in small arms during basic (or they were in my day). You don't really get the luxury of an opinion or choice after you join the armed forces.
Me too, SA80 at Raleigh in 1990!

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Stick the fecker in Colchester and make him polish the dustbins.

if he was so anti the war in Afghanistan he could have bought himself out of the Service.
He couldn't actually as the right to PVR does not apply to anyone who joined after the late 90's - 1998 I believe. However, he could have given notice to terminate his service with a high possibility he would not deploy if he did this.

He will more than likely do his full 7 months and then receive a dishonourable discharge. I would imagine that when this comes to light during any subsequent job interview he wouldn't be considered for employment.

There are plenty of malingerers out there, but thankfully there is a pretty robust system in place to deal with them.

I seem to remember an Asian soldier refusing to deploy to Iraq a few years back and I think he also went to prison.

I guess the oath of alleigance meant nothing to him - coward.

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

209 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Even if you accept a role that has little prospect of engaging the enemy like a medic, you are undertaking an obligation to your comrades.

Medics often have to secure and make safe the weapons of the wounded and therefore require training. Plans go awry and the choice, even for non-combatants can become kill, or be killed. Few people actually have the resolve to choose the latter on moral grounds when it comes down to it.

An untrained person with a weapon is a danger to themselves and others. It would be wrong for the Military to allow him into a combat zone without proper training, potentially endangering others.

A nation can survive only as long as there are people willing to die for it. If people wish to benefit from the protection of a nation then they should be prepared to give some time to national service. Most individuals will sacrifice no more than a little time; a few will sacrifice far more. But without exception, everyone should take their fair turn.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Whether joining the Army, Navy or RAF (in any job) there will be an initial period where you are trained as a soldier. (depending on the service this is done to varying levels, but we won't go there!).

Soldier first, tradesman second. Mechanics, medics, chefs, drivers, even chaplains have to undertake military training.

Jasandjules

69,945 posts

230 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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If he didn't want to use a weapon then should he not join the red cross?

Fer

7,710 posts

281 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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I guess he signed up to get his Medic training, and now he has that he thinks he has transferrable skills that he can take to the public sector.