speed awareness course
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hello all, more of a follow up to the colleague of mine who has just come off his 'speed awareness course'. Opinions welcome, though I can be certain I know what those are likely to be!. To begin with they tell you the day you are going on it. If you can't make for ANY reason (funeral, on holiday, at work, out of the country etc) then tough - You get the points and fine. You also get the points and fine for being 'disruptive' in 'class'. He's just come back for a roomfull of perhaps 20 people, all of which had been travelling at exactly 79MPH on a motorway one evening. The first session involved a rather large chap explaining that if we all slowed down by just 1MPH then they would save £x pounds a year which would free up doctors and nurses blah blah blah blah. He didn't have any actual figures to back this up of course, and noone wanted to be disruptive by questioning him about this. The coffee break was intersting, with a mix of society all of whon have never had accidents and were all there to avoid the 3 points and possible insurance hike. The second session was quite a charming senior officer saying that he doesn't know what the world is coming to, and was generally having a moan at the state of the country.
Anyway, all over, and each 'pupil' comes away with a questionaire that must bbe filled in within 7 day, or..........you get fined and get the points. I wonder how he's going to fill the questionaire in?
'DID YOU THINK THE SEMINAR WAS TIME WELL SPENT?' STRONGLY AGREE, AGREE, DON'T KNOW, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
Anyway, all over, and each 'pupil' comes away with a questionaire that must bbe filled in within 7 day, or..........you get fined and get the points. I wonder how he's going to fill the questionaire in?
'DID YOU THINK THE SEMINAR WAS TIME WELL SPENT?' STRONGLY AGREE, AGREE, DON'T KNOW, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
hmm. Can see my response being entirely predictable and along the lines of;
Course was a bore.
Speed camera....oops...safety occifer was a tarts fanny and all his stats were wrong.
No i dont think it was worth getting out of me pit for and was a waste of good drinking time.
Do i still get the points?
Course was a bore.
Speed camera....oops...safety occifer was a tarts fanny and all his stats were wrong.
No i dont think it was worth getting out of me pit for and was a waste of good drinking time.
Do i still get the points?
You know, its a good job we have gun control in this country, and that guns arent readily available to Joe Public like they are in the States.
These people could quite easily find themselves getting shot, in the same way that Doctors that perform abortions do in the States.
79 mph on a motorway, 34 mph in a 30 zone, etc, magistrates banning an old boy for warning folks of a speed trap, it goes on and on.
No wonder ordinary middle class, middle England hates and loathes the Police and Authority more than ever before.
It would be a tragedy indeed for those pulling the trigger, not those receiving the bullet.
These people could quite easily find themselves getting shot, in the same way that Doctors that perform abortions do in the States.
79 mph on a motorway, 34 mph in a 30 zone, etc, magistrates banning an old boy for warning folks of a speed trap, it goes on and on.
No wonder ordinary middle class, middle England hates and loathes the Police and Authority more than ever before.
It would be a tragedy indeed for those pulling the trigger, not those receiving the bullet.
bryan35 said:
. To begin with they tell you the day you are going on it. If you can't make for ANY reason (funeral, on holiday, at work, out of the country etc) then tough - You get the points and fine. You also get the points and fine for being 'disruptive' in 'class'. He's just come back for a roomfull of perhaps 20 people, all of which had been travelling at exactly 79MPH on a motorway one evening.
Well - the reps at our place (think one is going to send his dodgy copy NIP off to Paulie -
Kept nagging him to do so!) They had the same thing according to him - no show - points. If date was inconvenient - they charged £25 for re-arranging - but would only do so the once. (Though Lancs have given press release saying they have changed rules a bit - still a problem given the zero tolerance and huge numbers of scams there - but at least a step in right direction... ) But 20 people @ £85 per day and if like Lancs - they 4 classes per day - 5 days per week ..... nice little ££££arner! For driving at speed admittedly above the max speed limit here - but below speed limit in mainland Europe!
Hardly dangerous! Now if 90 mph and above given standard 81mph in most of EU..... bryan35 said:
The first session involved a rather large chap explaining that if we all slowed down by just 1MPH then they would save £x pounds a year which would free up doctors and nurses blah blah blah blah. He didn't have any actual figures to back this up of course, and noone wanted to be disruptive by questioning him about this. The coffee break was intersting, with a mix of society all of whon have never had accidents and were all there to avoid the 3 points and possible insurance hike.
Cousin is A&E consultant. Listening to his comments at our dinner table on occasions - perhaps we had beeter ban all contact sports and DIY forthwith as he gets lots more customers from those. Incidentally, many of his RTAs test positive for illegals =- and that includes the cylclists and the pedestrians
He is London based and reckons those cycling lanes are darned dangerous and badly planned - judging from numbers being treated in casualty - and this is cyclists colliding with cyclists - according to him! He is assuming that that driving faster than 1mph at all is going to kill someone. Motorway? How come France, Italy, Switzerland, Belgium and restricted German patches drive at 81mph without killing vast numbers? How come Germans drive at very high speeds have do so safely on aggregate? Seems a bit of a plank on that one!
Very surprised that COAST ideas were not mentioned - our guys said the Lancs course made big play on this rather than speed. (They thought I wrote the course
- nope - just from my Papa!) bryan35 said:
The second session was quite a charming senior officer saying that he doesn't know what the world is coming to, and was generally having a moan at the state of the country.
Unless he mentioned daft practice of mag banning pensioner for attempting to slow people down, and fining an unemployable druggy £83 for killing someone and another hard worker £400 for hitting a tree! bryan35 said:
Anyway, all over, and each 'pupil' comes away with a questionaire that must bbe filled in within 7 day, or..........you get fined and get the points. I wonder how he's going to fill
the questionaire in?
'DID YOU THINK THE SEMINAR WAS TIME WELL SPENT?' STRONGLY AGREE, AGREE, DON'T KNOW, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
What! No drive in the countryside and a brew in the local "greasy spoon!"
He's been short changed!
Our reps said they had to fill this in and hand it in at end of the course and were asked to give suggestions. Um - gather they passed on that!
>> Edited by WildCat on Saturday 5th June 19:44
DELTAF!DOWN! BOY! DOWN!
Er! Sorry Bryan35, Just had to rein Deltaf in there! He's a little headstrong y'know.
What you were saying reminds me of, well: has anyone here had to suffer a UCAN event in the course of their employment? Yes! I thought you probably had, it's VERY widespread isn't it. A bit like Billy Graham on steroids. Or room 101 in "1984", beware the thought police are not far away. Soon they'll be fining you for having "a fast car", 'cos you MUST have been thinking about it mustn't you?
Is there any company name attached to this "course" or is it an "in house" concoction?
What you were saying reminds me of, well: has anyone here had to suffer a UCAN event in the course of their employment? Yes! I thought you probably had, it's VERY widespread isn't it. A bit like Billy Graham on steroids. Or room 101 in "1984", beware the thought police are not far away. Soon they'll be fining you for having "a fast car", 'cos you MUST have been thinking about it mustn't you?
Is there any company name attached to this "course" or is it an "in house" concoction?
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